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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: Mary Ann on March 12, 2018, 12:55:10 PM
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malaise (169,576 posts)
In WInston Churchill - Hollywood rewards a mass murderer
https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/world/opinions-in-winston-churchill-hollywood-rewards-a-mass-murderer/ar-BBK7flL?li=AAggNb9
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Shashi Tharoor is author of “Inglorious Empire: What the British Did to India.” He chairs the Indian Parliament’s Foreign Affairs Committee.
“History,” Winston Churchill said, “will be kind to me, for I intend to write it myself.” He needn’t have bothered. He was one of the great mass murderers of the 20th century, yet is the only one, unlike Hitler and Stalin, to have escaped historical odium in the West. He has been crowned with a Nobel Prize (for literature, no less), and now, an actor portraying him (Gary Oldman) has been awarded an Oscar.
As Hollywood confirms, Churchill’s reputation (as what Harold Evans has called “the British Lionheart on the ramparts of civilization”) rests almost entirely on his stirring rhetoric and his talent for a fine phrase during World War II. “We shall not flag nor fail. We shall go on to the end. … We shall fight on the beaches, we shall fight on the landing grounds, we shall fight in the fields and in the streets. … We shall never surrender.” (The revisionist British historian John Charmley dismissed this as “sublime nonsense.”)
Words, in the end, are all that Churchill admirers can point to. His actions are another matter altogether.
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This war criminal orchestrated more than a few coups as well.
Those darn white guys! They screw everything up for everyone else. Should have left well enough alone, with that whole WWII thing.
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It's a refreshing break from Hollywood rewarding the rapists and child molesters in their midst, DUmbass.
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Maybe he should have driven a car off a bridge with a young woman in it, walked away (staggered away), and let her drown. THEN he would be a darling of the left.
KC
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Maybe he should have driven a car off a bridge with a young woman in it, walked away (staggered away), and let her drown. THEN he would be a darling of the left.
KC
Damnit man; I just :hi5: 'ed you! Now I have to wait a whole hour to give you another one for THIS thing of beauty. :cheers1:
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More bizzaro world bullshit from leftist scum.
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The research division at the dump must work 24 / 7 to find things to complain about. :thatsright: :loser:
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Damnit man; I just :hi5: 'ed you! Now I have to wait a whole hour to give you another one for THIS thing of beauty. :cheers1:
It just hit me wrong. They are all so upset about Chappaquidick (sp?), because it was about one of their heroes who straight up let a young woman drown. Now they're pissed about Churchill?! WTF?
KC
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The research division at the dump must work 24 / 7 to find things to complain about. :thatsright: :loser:
It's a post by mal, so you got that right. For my part, I didn't know she hated any non-US people.
An example of lying by omission, from the article mal linked:
Dealing with unrest in Mesopotamia in 1921, as secretary of state for the colonies, Churchill acted as a war criminal: “I am strongly in favour of using poisoned gas against the uncivilised tribes; it would spread a lively terror.” ...
From https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Winston_Churchill#First_World_War_and_the_Post-War_Coalition ,
In 1919, Churchill sanctioned the use of tear gas on Kurdish tribesmen in Iraq. Though the British did consider the use of non-lethal poison gas in putting down Kurdish rebellions, it was not used, as conventional bombing was considered effective.
I suspect mal's article is filled with similar lies-by-omission. This one was just the easiest to fact-check.
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It's a post by mal, so you got that right. For my part, I didn't know she hated any non-US people.
An example of lying by omission, from the article mal linked:
From https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Winston_Churchill#First_World_War_and_the_Post-War_Coalition ,
I suspect mal's article is filled with similar lies-by-omission. This one was just the easiest to fact-check.
Say what they may, the man was effective and, war is hell. There's not much I wouldn't do to stop a war. How many lives were saved by the 100k+ we killed in Hiroshima and Nagasaki?
KC
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Pretty sure I'd take tear gas over being 'conventionally bombed'.
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Pretty sure I'd take tear gas over being 'conventionally bombed'.
I thought the same thing.
KC
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I thought the same thing.
KC
Add me to that list.
They probably think of 'conventionally bombed' in the alcoholic sense.
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Read that the other day from MSN. Read the first couple of paragraphs, and couldn't help but think what revisionist history. Pathetic.
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It is at the point where any heroic white man has to be somehow destroyed to achieve the end of making the history of the world Afrocentric.
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Seems to me the left went all gaga from 2008 - 2016 about a man who's only real accomplishment was to read from a teleprompter well. It's pitiful to hear him without his teleprompter.
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I'm not much on historic drama or biopics; but Darkest Hour was a great movie. Oldman deserved that Oscar.
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I wonder how many wedding party attendees Obama murdered in drone strikes?
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I wonder how many wedding party attendees Obama murdered in drone strikes?
Or how many died because the Clenise ordered a medicine factory destroyed over a stain on a blue dress? :fuelfire: BILL CLINTON’S ACT OF TERRORISM (https://www.jacobinmag.com/2016/10/bill-clinton-al-shifa-sudan-bombing-khartoum/)
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Those evil British criminalized the hindu custom of bride burning.
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Those evil British criminalized the hindu custom of bride burning.
Suttee or Sati was the custom of a widow self-immolating on her dead husband's funeral pyre.
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Those evil British criminalized the hindu custom of bride burning.
You know, sir, I'm really tired of this stale old British-bashing, which has been going on all of my adult life.
The primitives don't know shit about it.
I'm sure that as history advances, it'll be commonly agreed that these people were some of the most decent, the most civilized, the most magnanimous people ever to grace this planet.
https://youtu.be/nhKYg641K3c
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You know, sir, I'm really tired of this stale old British-bashing, which has been going on all of my adult life.
The primitives don't know shit about it.
I'm sure that as history advances, it'll be commonly agreed that these people were some of the most decent, the most civilized, the most magnanimous people ever to grace this planet.
https://youtu.be/nhKYg641K3c
Hi Frank!H5 :cheersmate:
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You know, sir, I'm really tired of this stale old British-bashing, which has been going on all of my adult life.
The primitives don't know shit about it.
I'm sure that as history advances, it'll be commonly agreed that these people were some of the most decent, the most civilized, the most magnanimous people ever to grace this planet.
https://youtu.be/nhKYg641K3c
FRANK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
How the heck are you????????????????????
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Pretty sure I'd take tear gas over being 'conventionally bonged'.
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Fixuration applied. :whistling:
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You know, sir, I'm really tired of this stale old British-bashing, which has been going on all of my adult life.
The primitives don't know shit about it.
I'm sure that as history advances, it'll be commonly agreed that these people were some of the most decent, the most civilized, the most magnanimous people ever to grace this planet.
https://youtu.be/nhKYg641K3c
So glad to see you again!
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It is at the point where any heroic white man has to be somehow destroyed to achieve the end of making the history of the world Afrocentric.
Hear, hear!
I wonder who'll be next?
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You know, sir, I'm really tired of this stale old British-bashing, which has been going on all of my adult life.
The primitives don't know shit about it.
I'm sure that as history advances, it'll be commonly agreed that these people were some of the most decent, the most civilized, the most magnanimous people ever to grace this planet.
https://youtu.be/nhKYg641K3c
AMEN, Brother!!!
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Suttee or Sati was the custom of a widow self-immolating on her dead husband's funeral pyre.
Sometimes it was self- immolating. Other times, when the widow was reluctant to burn herself alive, she would be taken by her fellow citizens and forcefully burned to death against her will. That, I think, was the main issue.
After the British banned Suttee, several Indians protested that it was a time- honored cultural tradition (Were it in modern America, I'm sure liberal Democrats would happily repeal the ban along those lines, out of fear of seeming "Intolerant"). Sir Charles Napier, leader of the British occupation, gave a reply I'll never forget:
"Be it so. This burning of widows is your custom; prepare the funeral pile. But my nation has also a custom. When men burn women alive we hang them, and confiscate all their property. My carpenters shall therefore erect gibbets on which to hang all concerned when the widow is consumed. Let us all act according to national customs."
Yeah, the British at times abused their power in India, as nearly all outside forces occupying foreign nations sadly do at times, but they also brought an end to a lot of barbaric, genuinely evil practices such as Suttee.
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You know, sir, I'm really tired of this stale old British-bashing, which has been going on all of my adult life.
The primitives don't know shit about it.
I'm sure that as history advances, it'll be commonly agreed that these people were some of the most decent, the most civilized, the most magnanimous people ever to grace this planet.
https://youtu.be/nhKYg641K3c
France, Belgium, and Spain were much worse when it came to colonialism.
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>Words, in the end, are all that Churchill admirers can point to. His actions are another matter altogether.
You ignorant scrunt, you give Rastafarian a bad name. Can you spell esad? You forgot to be educated by your parents. Not you fault that you are as dumb as most DUmocrats. I feel for your idiocy. wake or gtfo.