debbierlus (1000+ posts) Sat Dec-26-09 11:45 AM
Original message
In silence, Obama & the Supreme Court shred human liberty in Single Sentence
*snip*
(Some article about Loord Zero torturing people)
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x7325996villager (1000+ posts) Sat Dec-26-09 11:48 AM
Response to Original message
1. well, but it's the *hopeful* kind of torture...
G_j (1000+ posts) Sat Dec-26-09 11:49 AM
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3. we should be frightened
"passionate arguments from the Obama Administration"
Why the passion? this isn't the first time I've read this..
This is why many conservatives didn't like the scope of the Patriot Act, we feared when the Commies might take over.
debbierlus (1000+ posts) Sat Dec-26-09 11:52 AM
Response to Reply #3
12. Most people don't know this occurred and many wouldn't understand its implications
If they did...
It is frightening.
Terrifying even. This type of thing invariably gets used against those who fight the entrenched power in the guise of 'protecting the people'.
But, he is your guy, what should you have to worry about?
G_j (1000+ posts) Sat Dec-26-09 11:55 AM
Response to Reply #12
17. at first it was cast as "moving on"
Edited on Sat Dec-26-09 12:25 PM by G_j
but we soon saw that they were passionate in their desire to hide the truth (torture photos etc.), and retain criminal policies of the Bush admin.
Impeachment, try him for war crimes !!!!
debbierlus (1000+ posts) Sat Dec-26-09 12:31 PM
Response to Reply #17
41. I know. And, there is no moving on from such colossal crimes against humanity
Without accountability and investigations and criminal punishment....
Maybe the next conservative president will prosecute, Lord Zero, for impersonating a president?
Yuugal (1000+ posts) Sat Dec-26-09 11:50 AM
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5. More chains we can believe in.... nt
You voted for Dope and Chains.
L0oniX (1000+ posts) Sat Dec-26-09 12:11 PM
Response to Reply #6
31. Tell me that you are in terror when you will die because you don't have the money for the meds.
Agree ...corporations can be terrorists?
So, Lord Zero wants to torture the insurance companies?
Thickasabrick (1000+ posts) Sat Dec-26-09 11:51 AM
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7. Holy **** - an "enemy combatant" is no longer a person? WTF??? nt
dana_b (1000+ posts) Sat Dec-26-09 01:04 PM
Response to Reply #7
56. a SUSPECTED enemy combatant
there does not have to be substantial proof.
Thickasabrick (1000+ posts) Sat Dec-26-09 01:06 PM
Response to Reply #56
58. Really....what is going on? It's like Cheney is in charge. nt
The previous administration did what they believed was necessary to protect the country. The current occupant of the White House is doing what is necessary to maintain control.
FLAprogressive (1000+ posts) Sat Dec-26-09 11:51 AM
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9. But but but but Barack Obama signed an executive order limiting torture!
so it obviously cannot be happening!
dixiegrrrrl (1000+ posts) Sat Dec-26-09 12:04 PM
Response to Reply #9
26. He limited torture, indeed. To persons.
"non-persons"...they can be tortured.
It's all in the wording. Lawyer-ly and changelicious.
Their impotent ranting make me smile.
