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Re: The only way we can make a success of Health Care Reform is to force it down the
« Reply #25 on: August 14, 2009, 03:10:37 PM »
Quote from: Freeper on August 14, 2009, 03:05:57 PM
Ohh so you are a chickenhawk then?  :tongue:
I cant see this being organized and carried out. An armed revolt against our govt is not gonna happen.

I'm in talks with the national guard already.
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Re: The only way we can make a success of Health Care Reform is to force it down the
« Reply #26 on: August 14, 2009, 03:11:00 PM »
Quote from: DefiantSix on August 14, 2009, 03:01:39 PM
No, but an individual state can stand up and say "No, we will no longer be held to UNCONSTITUTIONAL laws." and I think it would find a surprising amount of company beside it.

So long as you continue to believe that they surround you, to borrow from Glenn Beck, then nothing will change.  It is once you realize that we, in fact SURROUND THEM, that the enema that needt to come to our government at all levels can be brought in.

Thats why we we need to let them know now. Other than that the only alternative will be to try to get people in office that will overturn this.
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Re: The only way we can make a success of Health Care Reform is to force it down the
« Reply #27 on: August 14, 2009, 03:12:37 PM »
Quote from: Rebel on August 14, 2009, 03:08:56 PM
It won't be a revolt anymore than the War of Northern Aggression was a "Civil War". Revolt against whom? They can keep that shithole known as D.C. I'd be fine right here in Georgia. All it had to be was states telling the fed to **** off and essentially stop abiding by their unconstitutional laws. If the fed wants to bring it to the states, that's on them. They lost 360K people last time and I don't think they'll have the same success as they did the last time. Not with the ***** moonbats on the left.

GA will fall in line and follow what the feds tell them to do.
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Re: The only way we can make a success of Health Care Reform is to force it down the
« Reply #28 on: August 14, 2009, 07:16:12 PM »
Quote from: Freeper on August 14, 2009, 03:12:37 PM
GA will fall in line and follow what the feds tell them to do.

Keep thinking that. As I said before, it has happened before. Nothing has changed, other than the fact that we now have the same weapons (in the last war the union had rifled barrels) and they don't have the moral grounds to stand on, even though with Delaware, Maryland, and Misery, they didn't then either.
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Re: The only way we can make a success of Health Care Reform is to force it down the
« Reply #29 on: August 15, 2009, 03:14:25 AM »
Quote from: DefiantSix on August 14, 2009, 02:43:35 PM
Actually, no it doesn't.

In other words, if the constitution itself doesn't give the Fed the authority, and alternately doesn't deny the authority to the several states, then BY DEFAULT the states - and their individual citizens - have the trumping authority here.  Even "Supreme Court Prescident" cannot grant the Fed an authority that the Constitution says it does not and cannot have.  Not without setting at nought the entire framework of the legitimate, constitutional government anyway.

Then what the hell is Bam Bam doing appointing Czars? Every single one of them only answers to the executive branch. Clearly throwing the Constitution out the window. What exactly are the other branches doing about it again? Diddly squat, that's what!

This Pres is the closest thing to a dictator that this country has ever seen. What bothers me is, if he can get away with it, what will stop any of the future Commander in Chief's in the future of doing the same thing or worse?
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