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Offline CC27

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The one percenter welfare state is *expensive* Kpete
« on: September 14, 2015, 09:53:09 AM »
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The one percenter welfare state is *expensive*



MORE:
http://theweek.com/articles/576616/how-much-does-welfare-1-percenters-cost

Obama's fault!!!

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10027168875
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Re: The one percenter welfare state is *expensive* Kpete
« Reply #1 on: September 14, 2015, 09:55:25 AM »
It's awfully ironic, isn't it?  A member of the 1% bitches about the breaks the 1% gets. :stoner: :whistling:
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Re: The one percenter welfare state is *expensive* Kpete
« Reply #2 on: September 14, 2015, 10:00:02 AM »
Aren't those deductions available to everyone?

Also, "employer-sponsored retirement" is another word for pensions, correct?
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Re: The one percenter welfare state is *expensive* Kpete
« Reply #3 on: September 14, 2015, 10:18:30 AM »
I bet the "NO" percent welfare state is even more expensive. At least the 1% crowd is only getting back some of what they have paid in.

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Re: The one percenter welfare state is *expensive* Kpete
« Reply #4 on: September 14, 2015, 10:43:21 AM »
Stupid DUmb DUmp scrunt. The other 99% benefits by how much, for each of those?
Come on DUmpscrunt, give me number for mortgage interest deduction.
« Last Edit: September 14, 2015, 11:59:16 AM by Skul »
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Re: The one percenter welfare state is *expensive* Kpete
« Reply #5 on: September 14, 2015, 11:07:14 AM »
The idea that deductions or reduced tax rates are a form of 'welfare' presupposes that all wealth (property) belongs to the State.
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Re: The one percenter welfare state is *expensive* Kpete
« Reply #6 on: September 14, 2015, 05:13:25 PM »
Quote from: Big Dog on September 14, 2015, 11:07:14 AM
The idea that deductions or reduced tax rates are a form of 'welfare' presupposes that all wealth (property) belongs to the State.

The DUmmies would be very happy if all your pay went to Obama, then he sent you a check for just the amount you need.
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Re: The one percenter welfare state is *expensive* Kpete
« Reply #7 on: September 14, 2015, 08:02:38 PM »
Quote from: Big Dog on September 14, 2015, 11:07:14 AM
The idea that deductions or reduced tax rates are a form of 'welfare' presupposes that all wealth (property) belongs to the State.

Libs can't seem to be able to tell the difference between the people who are putting into the pot, those taking out, and those urinating and occupooping.
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Re: The one percenter welfare state is *expensive* Kpete
« Reply #8 on: September 15, 2015, 06:07:44 AM »
Quote from: Chris_ on September 14, 2015, 10:00:02 AM
Aren't those deductions available to everyone?

That's the problem. And in socialist-populist thinking one of the proper and vital functions of government is to stick it to "the rich". That this would send a nation's economy into some sort of pre-industrial and stagnant state is beyond such folks ability and willingness to think and understand.

Such self-loathing populist envy is rather ironic, coming from kpete.
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Re: The one percenter welfare state is *expensive* Kpete
« Reply #9 on: September 15, 2015, 06:44:58 AM »
Money is the root of all evil.......but it's also the fertilizer of ambition/innovation.

DUmmies only see the evil in money because they have no ambition or original ideas.
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Re: The one percenter welfare state is *expensive* Kpete
« Reply #10 on: September 15, 2015, 11:20:42 AM »
And what percentage of taxes do the top 10% of earners pay?
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Re: The one percenter welfare state is *expensive* Kpete
« Reply #11 on: September 15, 2015, 02:09:58 PM »
Quote from: 67 Rover on September 15, 2015, 11:20:42 AM
And what percentage of taxes do the top 10% of earners pay?

Zap! That's the one question that kpete won't want to see answered using the same method as was used in that chart she posted!
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Re: The one percenter welfare state is *expensive* Kpete
« Reply #12 on: September 15, 2015, 02:11:51 PM »
I just wonder if her husband, You know, the evil 1%er white man that he is, realizes what his wife advocates. And whether he believes it as well. For some reason, I think not.  :fuelfire:
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Re: The one percenter welfare state is *expensive* Kpete
« Reply #13 on: September 15, 2015, 04:37:04 PM »
Quote from: RayRaytheSBS on September 15, 2015, 02:11:51 PM
I just wonder if her husband, You know, the evil 1%er white man that he is, realizes what his wife advocates. And whether he believes it as well. For some reason, I think not.  :fuelfire:

Boy! That would be one conversation I'd like to be a fly on the wall.

But, all kidding aside, Kathy doesn't think "her" money counts.
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Re: The one percenter welfare state is *expensive* Kpete
« Reply #14 on: September 15, 2015, 07:18:19 PM »
Quote from: JohnnyReb on September 15, 2015, 06:44:58 AM
Money is the root of all evil.......but it's also the fertilizer of ambition/innovation.

DUmmies only see the evil in money because they have no ambition or original ideas.

Actually I believe the quote to be..."The love of money is the root of all sorts of evil".
That makes sense too if you look at the commandment, "I am the Lord thy God thou shalt have no false gods before me".
We shouldn't idolize money and love it and elevate it higher than and/or before him.
But we should certainly value money and other possessions as tools for what good they can accomplish.
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Re: The one percenter welfare state is *expensive* Kpete
« Reply #15 on: September 15, 2015, 07:29:28 PM »
Taking a legal deduction against ones tax liability is welfare yet subsides for insurance based only on reported income and no bearing on a tax burden is a right in the DUmbass demented mind.
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Re: The one percenter welfare state is *expensive* Kpete
« Reply #16 on: September 16, 2015, 08:09:36 AM »
Quote from: Carl on September 15, 2015, 07:29:28 PM
Taking a legal deduction against ones tax liability ...

Is a "right" for the right sort of people, but is "welfare" when it's the wrong sort of people. I'd be amused to see kpete's (very) mental pretzellations to make "Earned Income Tax Credits" something other than the welfare give-away//wealth-transfer it obviously is.
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Re: The one percenter welfare state is *expensive* Kpete
« Reply #17 on: September 16, 2015, 07:37:47 PM »
Quote from: SVPete on September 16, 2015, 08:09:36 AM
Is a "right" for the right sort of people, but is "welfare" when it's the wrong sort of people. I'd be amused to see kpete's (very) mental pretzellations to make "Earned Income Tax Credits" something other than the welfare give-away//wealth-transfer it obviously is.

Oh, you mean a tax refund on a tax you never paid ?
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Re: The one percenter welfare state is *expensive* Kpete
« Reply #18 on: September 17, 2015, 08:44:10 AM »
Quote from: obumazombie on September 16, 2015, 07:37:47 PM
Oh, you mean a tax refund on a tax you never paid ?

My understanding is that EIC is a >100% "refund" of income, Social Security, and Medicare taxes people receiving EIC have paid.
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Re: The one percenter welfare state is *expensive* Kpete
« Reply #19 on: September 17, 2015, 04:28:02 PM »
Quote from: SVPete on September 17, 2015, 08:44:10 AM
My understanding is that EIC is a >100% "refund" of income, Social Security, and Medicare taxes people receiving EIC have paid.

I think we are agreeing with some insignificant semantics in between.
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