It wasn't the emails...

[dutch508]

Star Member kpete (56,834 posts) https://www.democraticunderground.com/10029704051

It wasn't the emails...

...wait.... for... it...!



 

MLAA (739 posts)
2. Wow! So true. Thank you for sharing.

 

dlk (453 posts)
3. Even in the Age of Trump, So Many Americans Don't Want a Woman President--She Might Mess Things Up

 

Star Member pnwmom (85,614 posts)
14. The Russians used the Sanders campaign to divide Democrats.

And because Sanders continued to campaign all the way up to the convention, the party was not yet united and the door was open to Russia's timely interference.

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/7/11/15952666/russia-dnc-hacks-timing

Russians timed and framed this well

Had the DNC emails come out earlier, they would, of course, have been an issue in the 2016 primary campaign. And while it’s conceivable that they would have helped Sanders win the nomination, it’s more likely that he still would have lost. Either way, they would have been part of the campaign, and the convention would have been an opportune moment to put the disagreement in the past.

By raising the issue after the primary was over but before the party had come together in a big show of unity, the emails were released at a perfect moment for making trouble.

And at the time they were released, WikiLeaks’ primary brand in the West was as a left-wing muckraking site — the kind of place to which Sanders supporters might turn for a critical glimpse at the political establishment. Russia’s state-owned English-language media simultaneously offered a steady diet of overheated takes about a rigged primary that were framed as left-wing attacks on Clinton.

Clinton’s campaign team, to their credit, had this plan nailed correctly at the time. They argued that the real story the media should be focused on was a coordinated Russian government effort to help Donald Trump win the election. Had the media seen it that way at the time, the revelations would of course have been covered differently. And, critically, had Sanders and his supporters seen it that way at the time, they likely would have reacted differently. But instead, the timing and framing were just right for Sanders backers to see the revelations as aligned with their own campaign against the political establishment.

SNIP

But it’s true that even as Trump performed historically badly with young voters, Clinton was hurt by relatively low turnout among under-30s and a relatively high level of defection to third-party candidates. To attribute all of her problems with mobilizing Trump-hating young people to the hack would, of course, be going too far. But it’s fair to say that she lost in large part due to a failure of the unity efforts with Sanders, efforts that were sabotaged by a very well-timed and very well-framed release of stolen DNC emails.

right on time the HATE BERNIE crowd shows up for the 5 minutes of hate...

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t4zYlOU7Fpk[/youtube]

someone really needs to do a clip of this video with Bernie's face in it.

Star Member pnwmom (85,614 posts)
18. No. Why should the party have disavowed the woman who had been loyal to the party

for decades, in favor of an independent?

When the election was mathematically over in May, that's when the party should have unified. Hillary kept running in CA because Bernie kept running, even though the numbers of delegates already assigned made a win for him impossible.

HopeAgain (1,290 posts)
15. So we hate white males now?

Stereotype much?

yup...


...and yup...

Snake Plissken (1,707 posts)
25. Even though that sign is 100% accurate, lets not forget that Trump won the White female vote too

Hillary got railroad by White men for sure, but White females needs to shoulder some of the blame too, if Hillary carried the White female vote by even a single vote in each of the swing states, she would be in the White House right now.

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I2yN_HIxLzI[/youtube]

[SVPete]

Nope, it was the females:

Juanita Broaddrick

Elizabeth Ward

Paula Corbin Jones'
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Kathleen Willey

Posting that meme while the Harvey Weinstein conflagration was at its height was dumb. Then again, this is kpete speaking memes to the gullible from within her gated community.

[USA4ME]

The words on that poster say one thing, but the way Hillary looks in that picture says something else entirely.

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[hillneck]

The DUmmies  still can't grasp the reality the Queen Shillery was probably the worse candidate since Dukakis.  She comes off as an elite pompous B**ch she is. 

[Mr Mannn]

The DUmmies  still can't grasp the reality the Queen Shillery was probably the worse candidate since Dukakis.  She comes off as an elite pompous B**ch she is.

100% true. I would add that it was not her quality (or lack thereof) as a candidate that influences a prog. Quality/candidates/free elections mean nothing to the progs. They want power, they want a dictator. They will trade every freedom we hold dear to get that power.

[DLR Pyro]

HopeAgain (1,290 posts)
15. So we hate white males now?

Have you been living under a rock for the past 10 years, hopeagain?

[Mr Mannn]

Stealing this to poke fun on DI

[SVPete]

The DUmmies  still can't grasp the reality the Queen Shillery was probably the worse candidate since Dukakis.  She comes off as an elite pompous B**ch she is.

I can hardly believe I'm defending him, but Dukakis was just a clueless arrogant elitist dork. HilLIARy was all that on steroids plus monumentally corrupt and just evil (she enabled Bill's sexual predations for the sake of gaining political power).

[freedumb2003b]

Russians timed and framed this well

One still-unanswered question: WHY would Russia NOT want hiLIARy?  She had shown her willingness to work with them and give them anything they want ("a little Uranium, Vlad?").  Trump made it clear he would put the USA first in all dealings.  Russia would NOT want Trump.

(note I didn't bring up that the Russian thing is deader than Hugh Hefner, anyway).

[YupItsMe]

3. Even in the Age of Trump, So Many Americans Don't Want a Woman President--She Might Mess Things Up

FOAD.   I can't even begin to count the number of female politicians I would vote for before I voted for that nasty old murderous hag you ran.  Nikki Haley, Michelle Bachmann,   Definitely Condoleeza Rice.  Margaret Thatcher (if only)    Your dumb ass meme doesn't fly anymore.  This is just off the top off my head.  Do i thinl Mia Love is ready for the top seat, no probably not, but I'm sure as hell glad she's in Congress. 

[Wineslob]

They are all Queens of De Nile.

[Delmar]

Response to kpete (Original post)Fri Oct 13, 2017, 11:18 AM
StevieM (6,508 posts)
55. I disagree. The election was all about Comey and the corrupted FBI. HRC kicked Trump's ass

from one end of the country to the other. That's why she was about to win a big victory, even after Comey had already rigged it for the GOP a couple of times. Then he rigged it beyond hope with 11 days to go.

California is on one end of the country and New York is on the other and that makes for kicking Trump's ass from one end of the country to the other in the mind of a primitive.
Clinton never came back to Wisconsin after the the convention was over.  She was too worried about collapsing in a twitching, slobbering fit and she thought that her time would be better spent out in California scooping up big wads of cash from the likes of Pervy Weinstein.

Clinton
232
Trump
306

https://www.270towin.com/maps/2016-actual-electoral-map

[SVPete]

The DUmmies  still can't grasp the reality the Queen Shillery was probably the worse candidate since Dukakis.  She comes off as an elite pompous B**ch she is.

It would take a large HD aspect ratio full-screen meme to list all the significant reasons people voted against HilLIARy and for Trump.

[SVPete]

dlk (453 posts)
3. Even in the Age of Trump, So Many Americans Don't Want a Woman President--She Might Mess Things Up

LPC Noob meme-parrot needs to learn the significance of Sarah Palin and Carly Fiorina.