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Re: Teachers Fired Update
« Reply #25 on: February 24, 2010, 07:41:41 PM »
It may have to do with tenure issues, also.  If they're fired and rehired, it usually makes them start all over on getting tenure.

I suspect it will - more importantly though, is it will make the rehired teacher accept a new contract and new conditions, such as the longer workday until the school turns the corner.

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Re: Teachers Fired Update
« Reply #26 on: February 24, 2010, 07:51:52 PM »
I don't know about anyone else, but I'm glad to see a government agency stand up to the union.

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Re: Teachers Fired Update
« Reply #27 on: February 24, 2010, 07:59:46 PM »
I don't know why anyone puts up with the crap going on in public schools. Before I started homeschooling I volunteered at school. I was there every day and saw exactly what went on. One of the greatest disservices being done to today's children is the complete lack of US History. It's social studies and multculturalism. Native Americans were good, white people were bad. It was important to know how Indians lived...how cohesive, benevolent (socialist) they were. No one mentioned that grandma would be left on the road to die when she became a burden on the tribe or that the men (warriors and hunters) ate first and got the best portions (with good reason). Women were little more than indentured servants and most welcomed 2nd and 3rd wives because their lives were extremely difficult. And to this day, after all the weeks spent on it, my son has never had a use for the extremely important skill of building a pueblo out of sugar cubes and jello boxes.

I read Dumbing Us Down by John Taylor Gatto. If a man who was New York's teacher of the year was warning people against public education then there had to be something to the complete frustration my son was feeling. When I finally decided I could do a better job myself, both parents and teachers thought I was betraying "the cause" because if all good families pulled their kids out of school education would suffer. I told them it wasn't worth sacrificing my son to a system that simply wasn't working. Until there's some competition in the teaching profession schools will cater to the lowest common denominator because while I'm sure there are plenty of good teachers, the unions require schools to keep those teachers who are also the lowest common denominators of their profession. Why the good ones don't insist on changes I don't know.

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Re: Teachers Fired Update
« Reply #28 on: February 24, 2010, 08:07:30 PM »
Now if they could do the same thing to all of Lawrence, Massachusetts life would be good.

But that will never happen as the corrupt machine that runs the city has its tentacles in everything.



The Ed Reform Act that was rammed through the state legislature in January provides Districts the option of firing staff in underperforming schools.   What happened in RI is about to go viral. 


 

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Re: Teachers Fired Update
« Reply #29 on: February 24, 2010, 09:00:02 PM »
Now if they could do the same thing to all of Lawrence, Massachusetts life would be good.

But that will never happen as the corrupt machine that runs the city has its tentacles in everything.



Speaking of Lawrence:

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SP MURRAY: TEXTING-WHILE-DRIVING BAN, BULLYING BILL ON SENATE DOCKET
Senate President Therese Murray said Wednesday that the Senate is preparing to take up proposals to ban text messaging while driving and to crack down on school bullying. Murray declined to say whether she would support the House version of the so-called safe driving bill, which proposes a ban on cell phone use for all drivers unless they use hands-free devices. Murray also told the News Service the Senate is prepared to act on a bill to rescue Lawrence’s finances once it passes the House. “If we don’t do something, Lawrence will go bankrupt, and no one wants that to happen,” she said. The House has twice postponed consideration of the Lawrence bill. Backers have said Lawrence needs the authority to borrow $35 million to balance its budget this fiscal year and next. The bill also would place a state overseer in Lawrence to advise the city’s leadership, and if officials can’t turn the budget around by early next year, a state control board would be formed to manage the city’s finances.  After a closed caucus, the Senate made quick work of its only formal session this week, passing local bills and legislation safeguarding funeral processions in less than ten minutes and adjourning until Thursday, when an informal session is planned.

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Re: Teachers Fired Update
« Reply #30 on: February 24, 2010, 09:04:01 PM »
I don't know why anyone puts up with the crap going on in public schools. Before I started homeschooling I volunteered at school. I was there every day and saw exactly what went on. One of the greatest disservices being done to today's children is the complete lack of US History. It's social studies and multculturalism. Native Americans were good, white people were bad. It was important to know how Indians lived...how cohesive, benevolent (socialist) they were. No one mentioned that grandma would be left on the road to die when she became a burden on the tribe or that the men (warriors and hunters) ate first and got the best portions (with good reason). Women were little more than indentured servants and most welcomed 2nd and 3rd wives because their lives were extremely difficult. And to this day, after all the weeks spent on it, my son has never had a use for the extremely important skill of building a pueblo out of sugar cubes and jello boxes.

I read Dumbing Us Down by John Taylor Gatto. If a man who was New York's teacher of the year was warning people against public education then there had to be something to the complete frustration my son was feeling. When I finally decided I could do a better job myself, both parents and teachers thought I was betraying "the cause" because if all good families pulled their kids out of school education would suffer. I told them it wasn't worth sacrificing my son to a system that simply wasn't working. Until there's some competition in the teaching profession schools will cater to the lowest common denominator because while I'm sure there are plenty of good teachers, the unions require schools to keep those teachers who are also the lowest common denominators of their profession. Why the good ones don't insist on changes I don't know.

Cindie

Well said. I'm a little torn on this particular one-I'm always glad to see the teachers union put in its place, but in this case look at what the teachers were dealing with. What happens when the supposedly new and better and teachers are hired, will tell the real story, and I suspect we can already guess what that will be, what with parents who won't learn English and our version of chavs for students.