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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: Kc25 on September 19, 2018, 08:39:00 PM
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Atticus (4,330 posts) Wed Sep 19, 2018, 08:05 PM
Ford vs Kavanaugh in a nutshell:
Dr. Ford alleges Kavanaugh forcibly attempted to rape her at a party when they were both in high school and while his friend, Mark Judge, encouraged him and watched.
Mr. K denies the accusation and, in fact, denies he was present at the party.
In corroboration of Dr. Ford's account, there is the following:
-some of her schoolmates recall that the incident related by her was talked about at school for several days after the event.
-she related the event to her husband and therapist in 2012 during couples therapy, naming Kavanaugh as her attacker BEFORE he was nominated by Trump to the SCOTUS and before Trump had even entered the presidential race.
-she attempted to bring the attack to the attention of a major newspaper when it was first made public he was "under consideration" for the SCOTUS nomination.
-she is the one who placed Mr. Judge, Mr. Kavanaugh's good friend, in the room as a potential witness rather than "fabricate" a one on one "he said she said" situation.
-she voluntarily underwent a polygraph exam, administered by a former FBI agent, and PASSED.
-she has requested---pleaded for---an FBI investigation of her accusation.
-hundreds of people have attested to her decency and honesty.
In corroboration of Mr. Kavanaugh's denial, there is the following:
-within an hour of the attempted rape accusation breaking in the New York Times, a letter vouching for his respect of women and signed by 65 women who knew him since high school was released by Sen. Grassley.
-Orrin Hatch---and other Republicans---believe him because he is just such an all-around great guy.
-Trump says he "has never had even a small blemish" on his reputation.
Close call?
Real Life:
30 years after the fact, she says something happened, he said it didn't... she can't even remember the year that it happened.
he said/he said
DUers didn't like he said/she said with Franken... but now they love it with Kavanaugh?
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some of her schoolmates recall that the incident related by her was talked about at school for several days after the event
Don't know where the primitive heard this, but I haven't seen this reported anywhere. Chances are the primitive either made it up or read it from some other lib publication that invented it out of thin air.
MustLoveBeagles
2. That list of 65 was produced awfully quickly to be a coincidence
Of course 63 of them just as quickly recanted.
This is also a lie. Last I heard some letter from women who have worked with Kavanaugh had well over 200 signatures.
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>Dr. Ford alleges Kavanaugh forcibly attempted to rape her at a party when they were both in high school and while his friend, Mark Judge, encouraged him and watched.
Mr. K denies the accusation and, in fact, denies he was present at the party.
The DUpid is strong with this one. I recall when Mrs Clinton and Wookie Obama came here to sell their lies, they fondled
my acorns and made me blush. I did not tell the FBI or local cops because they could not help themselves...I just walked away limping.
The evil and idiocy of the left removes any inhibits I have for defending our Constitution.
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Don't know where the primitive heard this, but I haven't seen this reported anywhere. Chances are the primitive either made it up or read it from some other lib publication that invented it out of thin air.
It originated in a now deleted facebook post:
https://www.dailywire.com/news/36082/kavanaugh-accusers-classmate-makes-new-claim-then-ryan-saavedra
Shortly after writing on both her Twitter and Facebook accounts that she was not interested in doing interviews with the media, King deleted her Twitter and Facebook accounts.
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The BS:
In corroboration of Dr. Ford's account, there is the following:
-some of her schoolmates recall that the incident related by her was talked about at school for several days after the event.
-she related the event to her husband and therapist in 2012 during couples therapy, naming Kavanaugh as her attacker BEFORE he was nominated by Trump to the SCOTUS and before Trump had even entered the presidential race.
-she attempted to bring the attack to the attention of a major newspaper when it was first made public he was "under consideration" for the SCOTUS nomination.
-she is the one who placed Mr. Judge, Mr. Kavanaugh's good friend, in the room as a potential witness rather than "fabricate" a one on one "he said she said" situation.
-she voluntarily underwent a polygraph exam, administered by a former FBI agent, and PASSED.
-she has requested---pleaded for---an FBI investigation of her accusation.
-hundreds of people have attested to her decency and honesty.
In reality:
-> Ford claimed she told no one at the time;
-> The counseling was some 30 years after the alleged fact;
-> If she contacted a newspaper, it was some 35 years after the alleged fact; evidently they found her lack of date and place made her story less than credible;
-> Mr. Judge, after she called him out, denied that anything of the sort happened anytime, anywhere;
-> A polygraph only tests whether she believes her story or has rehearsed it enough that the polygraph would be fooled;
-> Like no one has ever made false accusations to the police or FBI? Her failure to give a date and place makes investigation impossible;
-> The hundreds of people attended high schools in the area between the mid 60s and mid 00s; few if any knew HER; they claim her story is like stories they heard while in high school.
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MustLoveBeagles
2. That list of 65 was produced awfully quickly to be a coincidence
Moron seems not to have heard of email and the Internet. The 65 women friends used those and other tools and produced their letter in about 24 hours. Nothing at all suspicious.
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So this woman says she reached out to a major newspaper a few years ago to get this information out, yet won't talk to the media now?
Also, didn't we have the internet a few years ago? This woman has deleted her social media which means she had them. Everyone has a voice nowadays. I promise, you start throwing out a few accusations on your social media, someone is going to pick it up!
Here's a good for instance for you;
I'd seen the headlines about the Texas superintendent that made some racial remarks about a QB, but I hadn't read the story. Last night my son texts me and asks me why this guys name was so familiar to him and I told him because we know him, and I asked him why he wanted to know. He told me that this guy was in some hot water over a post he had made on Facebook about a QB.
Folks, I live out in nowhere and so does this superintendent. If HE can get attention over a stupid Facebook post and I mean national attention, then what is this woman's problem? Is she that big of a loser?
KC
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she voluntarily underwent a polygraph exam, administered by a former FBI agent, and PASSED
Who paid for it?
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DUmmies find THIS unbelievable:
-within an hour of the attempted rape accusation breaking in the New York Times, a letter vouching for his respect of women and signed by 65 women who knew him since high school was released by Sen. Grassley.
but not this:
Nearly 600 women from Christine Blasey Ford’s high school have signed on to an open letter saying that they support her and believe her account that Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh sexually assaulted her in high school.
and there is this:
First circulated by a group of women who do not know Ford and who graduated from Holton-Arms,
and:
the letter has 599 signatories from students who attended between 1962 and 2018.
How long was this woman in high school????
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-within an hour of the attempted rape accusation breaking in the New York Times, a letter vouching for his respect of women and signed by 65 women who knew him since high school was released by Sen. Grassley.
The letter from the 65 women was dated September 14. The news that Kavanaugh was being accused of something sexual was known on the 13th. IOW, whatever day the NYT article came out, the women put together their letter in a ~24-hour time period, not one hour.
Here’s How That Letter From 65 Women Supporting Brett Kavanaugh Came Together So Quickly (https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/chrisgeidner/brett-kavanaugh-allegations-women-letter-chuck-grassley)
A group of women who have known Brett Kavanaugh since his high school days decided Thursday to put together the letter of support for him — a day after rumors of allegations against him first became public — one of the organizers of the letter told BuzzFeed News.
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In an interview Friday, McCaleb said the letter-writing campaign began after her husband, Scott McCaleb, got a call from a reporter following initial reporting by the Intercept and BuzzFeed News about a secret letter containing an allegation against Kavanaugh.
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When the initial reporting came out, she said, a “group effort” began to put together a letter supporting Kavanaugh and attesting that, “For the entire time we have known Brett Kavanaugh, he has behaved honorably and treated women with respect.”
Another of the signatories, reached by BuzzFeed News, said she was contacted Thursday by McCaleb about the possibility of signing on to a letter attesting to Kavanaugh’s character. ...
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The letter in support of Kavanaugh, signed by 65 women, was released by Senate Judiciary Committee chair Chuck Grassley on Friday, shortly after the New Yorker story published. ...
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My gut tells me she's going to testify before the Senate committee, probably in public but maybe in private, and the Dems will cry that she must be believed because she was so brave to go before the cameras and risk everything and you would only do that if you were telling the truth.
Not that it will work, but they have no choice but to do all they can to increasingly anger their already permanently angry base before mid-terms. Using this woman and then throwing her away after she's served her purpose, like they've done so many times before with other women, is SOP with the Dems. Why should they quit now?
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Nearly 600 women from Christine Blasey Ford’s high school have signed on to an open letter saying that they support her and believe her account that Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh sexually assaulted her in high school.
First circulated by a group of women who do not know Ford and who graduated from Holton-Arms,
the letter has 599 signatories from students who attended between 1962 and 2018.
Mary Ann may have forgotten to link the source, and I alluded to this without finding the source, so ...
599 alumnae from Christine Blasey Ford’s high school sign letter saying they support her (https://www.vox.com/2018/9/18/17869998/christine-blasey-ford-brett-kavanaugh-holton-arms)
Nearly 600 women from Christine Blasey Ford’s high school have signed on to an open letter saying that they support her and believe her account that Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh sexually assaulted her in high school.
“Dr. Blasey Ford’s experience is all too consistent with stories we heard and lived while attending Holton. Many of us are survivors ourselves,” the letter reads. First circulated by a group of women who do not know Ford and who graduated from Holton-Arms, a private all-girls school in Bethesda, Maryland, in 2005, the letter has 599 signatories from students who attended between 1962 and 2018.
Kate Gold, a class of 2005 Holton-Arms graduate who is an acupuncturist in Maryland, noted that the letter does not refer specifically to Ford’s allegations against Kavanaugh but rather to the experiences of women more generally.
The 65 women who signed the letter supporting Kavanaugh all knew him and attended high school during the time he was in high school. As to the 599 who support Ford, Brett Kavanaugh was born in 1965, so he probably did not attend high school around the time the female who graduated in 1962 did. And any who graduated after 1985 or so would not have known him, either. But "599" is an impressive number to anyone who doesn't look pastthe latter "9". IOW, the letter supporting Ford is an irrelevant publicity stunt.
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If anyone has ever wondered what a lynch mob look like...you're seeing it now with Kavanaugh.
The Libtards aren't even trying to hide their double standard anymore when it comes to issues like this.
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Ford vs Kavanaugh in a Nutshell
She said he did something.
He said he didn't.
There is no evidence to support either claim so the point is moot.
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-> A polygraph only tests whether she believes her story or has rehearsed it enough that the polygraph would be fooled;
Ford and her radical far leftwing feminazi lawyer never said what the polygraph was about. Also there is a reason polygraphs are not allowed as evidence in a court of law.
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I got myself into some trouble back when some of us were members of CU and I posted about it. From the reaction of some of the members there you would have though DU had invaded the site. Yes I was guilty of what I said I did I grabbed some woman by the neck but only after a string of events that nearly caused a car wreck and her flipping me off three times in a row prior to stomping on her breaks. Still after all this time I was attacked over it last New Years on a local Facebook post where I thanked a couple of people for getting me out of a ditch. I paid my fine and served my sentence of one year probation. So I can truely feel how Kavanaugh feels with someone constantly attacking you even years later. **** Democrats.
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I have it on good authority that kavanaugh groped her over her flack jacket and theres a pic to prove it.
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Lie detector tests are very easy to rig but DiFi won't even release the letter. From what I hear, there is very damaging info on this woman and the GOP already have it.
Don't know where the primitive heard this, but I haven't seen this reported anywhere. Chances are the primitive either made it up or read it from some other lib publication that invented it out of thin air.
No, it was another fellow traveler that lied then recanted:
https://www.dailywire.com/news/36082/kavanaugh-accusers-classmate-makes-new-claim-then-ryan-saavedra
She claimed she told nobody and it happened in the summer.
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BREAKING NEWS !!!
Caitlyn Jenner claims Bruce fondled/groped her for decades.
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I got myself into some trouble back when some of us were members of CU and I posted about it. From the reaction of some of the members there you would have though DU had invaded the site. Yes I was guilty of what I said I did I grabbed some woman by the neck but only after a string of events that nearly caused a car wreck and her flipping me off three times in a row prior to stomping on her breaks. Still after all this time I was attacked over it last New Years on a local Facebook post where I thanked a couple of people for getting me out of a ditch. I paid my fine and served my sentence of one year probation. So I can truely feel how Kavanaugh feels with someone constantly attacking you even years later. **** Democrats.
I remember when that happened.
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If Kavanaugh can't get the votes by tomorrow (Wednesday), then he has to wait until the spring to sit on the court. The Supreme Court will again be 4-4 for an entire session.
The GOP got ROLLED. Even if they vote to confirm, they lose half a session and SEVERAL IMPORTANT 2nd Amendment decisions. I'm pissed.
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BREAKING NEWS !!!
Caitlyn Jenner claims Bruce fondled/groped her for decades.
This just in...Judge Kavanaugh accused of being the shooter on the grassy knoll in Dallas November 22, 1963. Book repository employee says she suddenly recalls after 55 years and a sit down with the New York Times that a young Brett Kavanaugh or "someone that resembled him" was seen talking with a 17 year old Donald Trump and a KGB operative right before the fatal shot rang out.
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If Kavanaugh can't get the votes by tomorrow (Wednesday), then he has to wait until the spring to sit on the court. The Supreme Court will again be 4-4 for an entire session.
The GOP got ROLLED. Even if they vote to confirm, they lose half a session and SEVERAL IMPORTANT 2nd Amendment decisions. I'm pissed.
This Kavanaugh stuff is just the tip of the iceberg of what the Libtards have planned if they take the House or Senate in November.
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This Kavanaugh stuff is just the tip of the iceberg of what the Libtards have planned if they take the House or Senate in November.
After this behavior, they will demand the next nominee be purer than Jesus or left of Stalin...
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After this behavior, they will demand the next nominee be purer than Jesus or left of Stalin...
They are basically telling anyone who won't bend to the Liberal dogma to not even consider applying for the job/vacancy.
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>Dr. Ford alleges Kavanaugh forcibly attempted to rape her at a party when they were both in high school and while his friend, Mark Judge, encouraged him and watched.
Mr. K denies the accusation and, in fact, denies he was present at the party.
The DUpid is strong with this one. I recall when Mrs Clinton and Wookie Obama came here to sell their lies, they fondled
my acorns and made me blush. I did not tell the FBI or local cops because they could not help themselves...I just walked away limping.
The evil and idiocy of the left removes any inhibits I have for defending our Constitution.
I'm so sorry for you. Do you still have nightmares?
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This Kavanaugh stuff is just the tip of the iceberg of what the Libtards have planned if they take the House or Senate in November.
Which is why republican voters should be even more motivated to go vote.
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Did anyone here really not see this coming from a mile away? The left burned out the racism angle so this is all they got left.
Only way this kind of stupid shit stops is to show the left it is not effective.
The really sad part about all this is that there will come a time when the female is telling the truth and won't be believed because of this democrat tactic.
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Did anyone here really not see this coming from a mile away? The left burned out the racism angle so this is all they got left.
Only way this kind of stupid shit stops is to show the left it is not effective.
The really sad part about all this is that there will come a time when the female is telling the truth and won't be believed because of this democrat tactic.
And the only way to show it is ineffective is to confirm Kavanaugh and then have the red wave put the senate over 60.
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some of her schoolmates recall that the incident related by her was talked about at school for several days after the event
It has now come out that the guys that did this have admitted to it. Kavanaugh was nowhere in sight.