DUmmies cheer the coming failure of California and then the US.

[diesel driver]

I am trying to be nice and give them the benefit of the doubt. Truth be known, I wouldn't expect them to last three months.

Now you're talking!   

[DumbAss Tanker]

Yes, we are 'stuck" with being held hostage by S.F, LA, etc..... Don't judge the entire state and it's people by the small areas that have a strangle hold on the rest of us.


Sometimes having to read threads like this, makes me not want to be on this board.

I feel for you, but the worst thing the Federal government could do would be to set the precedent of pouring money from all the more-responsible states into the dysfunctional CA government 'For the cheeeeeeldrun' to 'Rescue' it, when it finally succeeds in pushing the state from the frying pan into the fire.

[NHSparky]

I've said it many times here--future historians will point to the day the feds bailed out California as the beginnings of the Second Revolutionary War.

[Ptarmigan]

I haven't heard one person in dozens of years speak wistfully of California as in times past.  It's become a place to be mocked and shunned, rightfully so.

I do recall some talk about northern CA splitting from the southern half.  A move such as that might save some good and decent northern residents. 

It is the urban areas of CA that are the problem. Inland and far northern California (Alturas or Inyo County) is largely conservative and very conservative from election maps I have seen.

That can also be said of other states like New York, Illinois, Washington, Oregon, and Nevada. They are largely Democratic because of big cities. Outside of them they are quite conservative, especially Washington, Oregon, and Nevada.

[Wineslob]

It is the urban areas of CA that are the problem. Inland and far northern California (Alturas or Inyo County) is largely conservative and very conservative from election maps I have seen.

That can also be said of other states like New York, Illinois, Washington, Oregon, and Nevada. They are largely Democratic because of big cities. Outside of them they are quite conservative, especially Washington, Oregon, and Nevada.

We have a winnah!



I do recall some talk about northern CA splitting from the southern half.  A move such as that might save some good and decent northern residents.


"We" have talked about splitting the State. Considering that we, in the "North State", pretty much own all the water, scares the crap out of the turds in So Cal.

[Carl]

Yes, we are 'stuck" with being held hostage by S.F, LA, etc..... Don't judge the entire state and it's people by the small areas that have a strangle hold on the rest of us.


Sometimes having to read threads like this, makes me not want to be on this board.

Don`t take it personal,have the same issue here in the eastern hell known as New York.

[Ptarmigan]

We have a winnah!



I do recall some talk about northern CA splitting from the southern half.  A move such as that might save some good and decent northern residents.


"We" have talked about splitting the State. Considering that we, in the "North State", pretty much own all the water, scares the crap out of the turds in So Cal.

I have heard of northern California, more specifically, far Northern California, where Redding, Alturas, and Eureka are want to split away and merge with Southern Oregon and call the state Jefferson. It has been like this since 1940s.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jefferson_(Pacific_state)

Also, Southeast California (Riverside County) want to split as well.

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2011/06/new-state-of-south-california.html

[Kyle Ricky]

I have heard of northern California, more specifically, far Northern California, where Redding, Alturas, and Eureka are want to split away and merge with Southern Oregon and call the state Jefferson. It has been like this since 1940s.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jefferson_(Pacific_state)

Also, Southeast California (Riverside County) want to split as well.

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2011/06/new-state-of-south-california.html

A couple of people I know who live in California say that Northern Cali is a whole different state than Southern Cali. I never been there, so I can't clarify it.