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How is Capitalism Killing the Kids?
« on: March 28, 2008, 07:55:44 AM »
The sheer stupidity of these people...

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An illustration of how this capitalist culture has affected our kids…

*** On the surface all seems natural enough, until, in this preschool nursery, a little 4 year old boy , zooming from toy to toy, sees a little girl picking up a toy truck. He yanks it from her hand and bashes her over the head. Heedless of the girl’s shrieks and his teacher’s warnings, the boy rushes to another corner of the room, to another toy , and when someone manages to pick him up to discipline him, his body stiffens. He kicks and screams***

A child who is consistently callous and emotionally distant, seemingly immune to the rules and feelings of others, is what psychologists call “unattached.”

Who’s to blame for kids without a conscience? Violent kids in preschool classrooms, with no remorse. No loving bonds in the first two years of life because parents must work at two or more jobs to keep the apartment, or the home mortgage, contribute to dysfunctional families that result in more children without a “conscience “ as time goes by. In addition, criminologists and child development specialists believe that the combined effects of poverty and the resultant crime produce children who are emotionally distant, manipulative and selfish to the extreme.

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But the sources of child disattachment are not limited to ghetto children. Children can be detached from parents on any and all economic levels. Mom and Pop breadwinners, who work 12 hours a day to keep up the “success” image and who “warehouse” their children to day care centers, can create a precarious situation for a young child. Day care centers hire workers who come and go, and leave child attachments in limbo, and the child becomes dispossessed of relationships that had potential bonding benefits.

more . . . http://www.opednews.com/articles/life_a_wally_080324_ca...
 

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Re: How is Capitalism Killing the Kids?
« Reply #1 on: March 28, 2008, 08:04:52 AM »
I saw this bonfire on Skins's island yesterday, and wondered about something.

The dysmenopausal Kansas schoolteacher is retiring soon, well before she reaches the age of 65 years.

With her exceedingly generous teacher's pension, the dysmenopausal Kansas schoolteacher is going to spend a lot of time traveling around with those Pink Underwear women, raising Hell during the 8-year administration of John McCain.  She's getting so much of a pension she's going to go around first-class.

When I was at that bonfire, it seemed to me the dysmenopausal Kansas schoolteacher is one of the biggest beneficiaries of the system she allegedly despises.
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Re: How is Capitalism Killing the Kids?
« Reply #2 on: March 28, 2008, 08:08:46 AM »
"How is stupidity killing America"? might be a better title.
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Re: How is Capitalism Killing the Kids?
« Reply #3 on: March 28, 2008, 08:21:26 AM »
I don't see it capitalism causing the problems.  I see the breakdown of the family causing the problems.  The downslide of morals is causing the problems.  Lots of reasons for this, but I not capitalism.

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Re: How is Capitalism Killing the Kids?
« Reply #4 on: March 28, 2008, 09:00:58 AM »
Oh FFS.  :whatever:
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Re: How is Capitalism Killing the Kids?
« Reply #5 on: March 28, 2008, 10:38:53 AM »
I don't see it capitalism causing the problems.  I see the breakdown of the family causing the problems.  The downslide of morals is causing the problems.  Lots of reasons for this, but I not capitalism.

I agree.   Based on the situation displayed in the article, I have to say that badly-behaving children are the result of parents/guardians not taking control of the situation early on or are of the mindset that "kids should be kids."  (I immediately thought about those wild and crazy kids on the tv show "SuperNanny", when I read that article. :o).

The DUmmies do whatever it takes to place all the blame of society's problems on capitalism, so they can feel superior in regards to their desire for socialism.  :mental:
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Re: How is Capitalism Killing the Kids?
« Reply #6 on: March 28, 2008, 10:49:36 AM »
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When I was at that bonfire, it seemed to me the dysmenopausal Kansas schoolteacher is one of the biggest beneficiaries of the system she allegedly despises.

Just like all successful liberals.  To think they think the conservatives are putting the poor down.
When you are the beneficiary of someone’s kindness and generosity, it produces a sense of gratitude and community.

When you are the beneficiary of a policy that steals from someone and gives it to you in return for your vote, it produces a sense of entitlement and dependency.

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Re: How is Capitalism Killing the Kids?
« Reply #7 on: March 28, 2008, 11:06:03 AM »
Just like all successful liberals.  To think they think the conservatives are putting the poor down.

Well, actually, this begs all sorts of questions for both the dysmenopausal Kansas schoolteacher and the mike_c primitive, both on the public payroll, and both within the next few years destined to retire with healthy pensions; pensions financed by our capitalistic system.

If the dysmenopausal Kansas schoolteacher and the mike_c primitive are so against our "system," why don't they reject the benefits the "system" gives them, such as their pensions?

I'm sure the pension funds of both are healthy because of investments in industries with whom the dysmenopausal  Kansas schoolteacher and the mike_c primitive disagree; armaments, pharmaceuticals, petroleum, whatnot.

Both the dysmenopausal Kansas schoolteacher and the mike_c primitive allege to be morally superior to we materialistic money-grabbing conservatives and Republicans; why don't they prove it then, matching their actions with their mouths?

franksolich alas finds it necessary to wax autobiographical now, with the standard and usual caveat that one must always keep in mind franksolich has no wife or children or others dependent upon him, and so finds it easy to make the decisions he does; if the well-being of someone else were involved, the decision would probably be different.

In 1987, I received notice of an inheritance from a late aunt of mine, who had left me $16,187 and some cents.

At the time, I was just out of college, poor as a church-mouse, living on my wits (and no social services); just poorer than Hell, poorer than a Mississippi sharecropper.

I turned down the bequest, much to the indignation (and sacrifice of a few friendships, too) of others.

Turned it down; didn't want to have anything to do with it.

This particular aunt had always loathed and detested my parents (my mother was an older sister of hers), for reasons never explained to me.  But later in life, long after my parents were dead, for some peculiar reason she took a liking to me (although similar amounts were left to other nephews and nieces).

My attitude, as I explained in a letter to the estate attorney, was that my long-dead parents had already given me all and everything I needed, and so I didn't want to have anything to do with it.

Now, if the materialistic money-grubbing selfish right-winger franksolich found it easy to reject benefits from something he found morally repugnant, how much easier it should be for the dysmenopausal Kansas schoolteacher and the mike_c primitive to reject those benefits offered them from sources they despise?

I think it should be pretty easy, and I encourage both of them to follow franksolich's lead.

 

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Re: How is Capitalism Killing the Kids?
« Reply #8 on: March 28, 2008, 11:33:43 AM »
Honestly, the bratty child who takes the toy away from the other child and then throws a fit and wants what he wants if he doesn't have it reminds me of the Liberal, who feels entitled to what Sally Sue has...and takes it anyway if he doesn't have it. That would be socialism, not capitalism. The whole stealing aspect...the wanting it right then and now and not being willing to do what one should to get it the "right" way are all tenets of socialism.

I echo what Flame says. The behavior of children today has to do with the dismantling of the American family...and I also attribute that to Liberals.

What would have been even more realistic is if this hypothetical scenario had taken place in a public school, whereby the teacher would have no authority whatsoever to discipline the unruly child. That is reality, and that is also due to liberalism. Kids these days lack discipline...the schools are defunct in that regard (and therefore academically as a result), and liberals are working overtime to try to take it away a parent's right to discipline their child(ren) in their own homes.

If any political ideology is to be recognized and then blamed for this, it would be the liberal democrats.
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Re: How is Capitalism Killing the Kids?
« Reply #9 on: March 28, 2008, 01:01:38 PM »
Honestly, the bratty child who takes the toy away from the other child and then throws a fit and wants what he wants if he doesn't have it reminds me of the Liberal, who feels entitled to what Sally Sue has...and takes it anyway if he doesn't have it. That would be socialism, not capitalism. The whole stealing aspect...the wanting it right then and now and not being willing to do what one should to get it the "right" way are all tenets of socialism.

I echo what Flame says. The behavior of children today has to do with the dismantling of the American family...and I also attribute that to Liberals.

What would have been even more realistic is if this hypothetical scenario had taken place in a public school, whereby the teacher would have no authority whatsoever to discipline the unruly child. That is reality, and that is also due to liberalism. Kids these days lack discipline...the schools are defunct in that regard (and therefore academically as a result), and liberals are working overtime to try to take it away a parent's right to discipline their child(ren) in their own homes.

If any political ideology is to be recognized and then blamed for this, it would be the liberal democrats.

Said it just right in the bolded parts. Schools are not allowed to discipline. Parent(s) often are not around enough due to liberal social policy. (welfare and whatnot)

All I can add is that two parents with full time jobs is also the fault, to some degree, of the liberals. The highly taxed, highly regulated and highly manipulated economy means that two earner familys have gone from being a luxury to being a necessity in many cases. The security of one parent being around all the time for the childhood years is all but gone.
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Re: How is Capitalism Killing the Kids?
« Reply #10 on: March 28, 2008, 01:32:21 PM »

All I can add is that two parents with full time jobs is also the fault, to some degree, of the liberals. The highly taxed, highly regulated and highly manipulated economy means that two earner familys have gone from being a luxury to being a necessity in many cases. The security of one parent being around all the time for the childhood years is all but gone.

Exactly.
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Re: How is Capitalism Killing the Kids?
« Reply #11 on: March 28, 2008, 03:17:42 PM »
WERD!!!!!! It's the breakdown of the family and the assault on traditional family values. Yes, that's a worn out phrase but it's so true. People used to take marriage and family seriously. Couples didn't just hop from bed to bed and have kids out of wedlock without some sort of shame/redemption involved. Now, it's turned into some sort of perverted sport. How many people can I sleep with? How many baby daddys/mamas can I have???

And what kills me is that the liberals have pushed for entitlements that only encourage all of the indiscriminate copulating/reproducing while people like me are penalized financially for actually getting married and trying to raise our kids.

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Re: How is Capitalism Killing the Kids?
« Reply #12 on: March 28, 2008, 05:39:23 PM »


All I can add is that two parents with full time jobs is also the fault, to some degree, of the liberals. The highly taxed, highly regulated and highly manipulated economy means that two earner familys have gone from being a luxury to being a necessity in many cases. The security of one parent being around all the time for the childhood years is all but gone.

All the DUmmies whine and scream about healthcare but look at the reasons behind the high cost.
Income redistribution via socialist leaning judges awarding huge malpractice settlements.
This encourages the John Edwards types to victimize individuals for their own personal gain all the while driving up insurance costs as court cases are fought out.

Energy costs due to lack of refining capacity,and viable alternatives because of libs obstinance.

The list goes on and on and it isn`t by accident.
They wish that life be difficult for the masses so that they can prey on everyones darker side of envy,greed and self pity.

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Re: How is Capitalism Killing the Kids?
« Reply #13 on: March 28, 2008, 07:21:44 PM »


All I can add is that two parents with full time jobs is also the fault, to some degree, of the liberals. The highly taxed, highly regulated and highly manipulated economy means that two earner familys have gone from being a luxury to being a necessity in many cases. The security of one parent being around all the time for the childhood years is all but gone.

All the DUmmies whine and scream about healthcare but look at the reasons behind the high cost.
Income redistribution via socialist leaning judges awarding huge malpractice settlements.
This encourages the John Edwards types to victimize individuals for their own personal gain all the while driving up insurance costs as court cases are fought out.

Energy costs due to lack of refining capacity,and viable alternatives because of libs obstinance.

The list goes on and on and it isn`t by accident.
They wish that life be difficult for the masses so that they can prey on everyones darker side of envy,greed and self pity.


Just quasi-related maybe but yeah, government manipulation of the economy causes prices to skyrocket. For example, when my dad was in college (around '66 to '70) he worked two jobs over summer break to pay for school. (he also got 50 bucks a month from ROTC) That's it! That is how he paid for school. I can't imagine an enty level job that exist today that would pay for two semesters of school based on three months of work. Every year the government gives out more free money to go to school so every year colleges raise the cost of tuition. The cycle is endless and why tuition rises faster than inflation every year. (same goes for medicare and medicaid) Government drives up cost, DUmmies cry for more government aid. Parents work their butts off to keep up. DUmmies blame capitalism! (farkers)

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Re: How is Capitalism Killing the Kids?
« Reply #14 on: March 28, 2008, 09:17:23 PM »
I just saw this episode of Home Movies yesterday.  Or maybe it was a couple of days ago.  Time is a face on the water.  Anyway...

Here's the video clip:

[youtube=425,350]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PMzUvy-jJps[/youtube]

And here's the song lyrics at the end if you want to sing along:

Don't Kill Children

Don’t kill children
Don’t run them over
Let them live their life
Let them get older

Don’t kill children
Don’t run them over
Let them live their life
Let them get older

Brendon Small!
He didn’t do anything wrong!
He was riding his bike!
They tried to take his life!

Don’t kill children
Don’t run them over
Let them live their life
And let them get older Don’t kill children Don’t run them over
Let them live their life And let them get older Brendon Small!
He didn’t do anything wrong! He was riding his bike! They tried
to take his life! Oh!
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Re: How is Capitalism Killing the Kids?
« Reply #15 on: March 29, 2008, 01:24:04 AM »
"How is stupidity killing America"? might be a better title.

That's what I was thinking. Sadly, most people do not really understand how the economy runs, let alone capitalism.
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Re: How is Capitalism Killing the Kids?
« Reply #16 on: March 29, 2008, 07:31:02 AM »
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No loving bonds in the first two years of life because parents must work at two or more jobs to keep the apartment, or the home mortgage, contribute to dysfunctional families that result in more children without a “conscience “ as time goes by. In addition, criminologists and child development specialists believe that the combined effects of poverty and the resultant crime produce children who are emotionally distant, manipulative and selfish to the extreme.
* "Free sex" without marriage.

* No-fault divorce.

* Diminished--if not the outright devalued--role of fathers.

* Women must work to be equal to men.

All tenents of the liberal, socialist creed.
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Re: How is Capitalism Killing the Kids?
« Reply #17 on: March 29, 2008, 07:21:20 PM »
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But the sources of child disattachment are not limited to ghetto children. Children can be detached from parents on any and all economic levels. Mom and Pop breadwinners, who work 12 hours a day to keep up the “success” image and who “warehouse” their children

Wait...wouldn't this be blasphemy coming from a public school teacher? I mean didn't their messiah, John Dewey, advocate for just such a circumstance? Get parents out of the way so the state can raise the kiddies to be "good Germans"? After all, one cannot develop a sense of the collective, of devotion to the state if one has those silly little attachments to the family. That can only lead to (gasp!) individualism “... to suppose ... that a good citizen is anything more than a thoroughly efficient and serviceable member of society, one with all his powers of body and mind under control, is a cramped superstition which it is hoped may soon disappear from educational discussion.” (This from a paper he wrote called "Ethical Principles Underlying Education")

When I first thought about homeschooling I read a book called Dumbing Us Down by John Taylor Gatto. He taught public school in Manhattan for about 25 years and won numerous awards, including teacher of the year. And he completely turned against public schools...even the "good" ones have the same basic philosophy and goals. He was talking about the MOST important lessons teachers teach; they have nothing to do with reading, writing, or math, rather, "Good students wait for a teacher to tell them what to do. It is the most important lesson, that we must wait for other people, better trained than ourselves, to make the meanings of our lives. The expert makes all the important choices; only I, the teacher, can determine what my kids must study..." So, it's surprising to me that she would be so upset about the lack of bonding between parent and child. Parents might actually do something stupid, like tell their children the polar bears aren't dying out. Not so bad if the child views the parent with disaffected contempt, but pretty harmful if he has a close and respectful relationship and actually BELIEVES mom or dad.

Then again, it could just be that she's a piss-poor teacher who would rather lash out and blame the parents.

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