http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x3026794Disclaimer: the cali primitive is a first-tier primitive; I haven't yet ranked the Fredda primitive, but am rather fond of her.
Anyway.
cali (1000+ posts) Tue Mar-18-08 09:48 AM
Original message
It's still the biggest elephant in the national living room
Race. How we talk about it, how we deal with it and mostly how we don't deal with it. It's still a huge contentious divide in the national conversation. It's obscured by the type of language that's socially permissible, but one has to wonder how much things have really changed in the last 30 years or so. Under the surface, white America is still largely frightened of black America, and particularly "the angry black man". Black America is largely still bitter and distrustful of white America. The two sides speak different languages. Some people are still willing to exploit tensions and fear, and it's not just republicans.
Not that this is anything new or revelatory, but it is being highlighted now in another way, just as Katrina brought a focus on racism a couple of years ago.
It's depressing.
You know, you gotta wonder about something, all these primitives in Vermont.
Primitives are not native to Vermont; they moved in from somewhere else.
One suspects, with some fairly pretty good reasons, that many primitives moved to Vermont because there aren't hardly any b-l-a-c-k people there.
****ing fascists, primitives of Vermont.
Fredda Weinberg (1000+ posts) Tue Mar-18-08 09:49 AM
Response to Original message
1. Asians must feel so out of it right now ... like race is about blacks & white
cali (1000+ posts) Tue Mar-18-08 09:57 AM
Response to Reply #1
2. really? now you speak for the Asian American community?
Don't bother replying. And yes, the thorniest race issues in this country are between African Americans and Whites, though certainly latinos are more and more in the mix.
Fredda Weinberg (1000+ posts) Tue Mar-18-08 10:01 AM
Response to Reply #2
5. You gotta make it about me? Sweet
No, the thorniest race issue is where it matters ... where we mix. Jews, Asians, Latinos ... it's white guilt that makes you blind.
Don't tell me whether or not to reply. You should be ashamed of yourself.
Yep. Liberal white guilt.
cali (1000+ posts) Tue Mar-18-08 10:05 AM
Response to Reply #5
7. Another disgusting remark from dear Fredda who's always made it about her. I know all about you.. from YOU. All about the shoe in the head. You've only told that tired tale a few dozen times, dear. All about your brother and your father, and what a hero YOU are- according to you. I've seen your borderline and not so borderline comments.
You know nothing about me but say that I have white guilt? Shove your shame on you crap back in the orifice you yanked it out of.
panader0 (1000+ posts) Tue Mar-18-08 10:00 AM
Response to Original message
4. Obama is the perfect candidate for this elephant
He's half black and half white.
Hmmmm.
One feels compelled to asking the pandering primitive, if the Obamanation is half-and-half, why isn't he campaigning as a half-and-half?
Why is he campaigning as if a full-fledged black man who's felt real oppression?
Bullet1987 (1000+ posts) Tue Mar-18-08 10:09 AM
Response to Original message
8. I agree Cali...that's what people are missing from this Wright story
Blacks have put so much faith in Obama...if his candidacy is destroyed over some bullshit his Pastor said, there's gonna be all kinds of chaos and anger.
cali (1000+ posts) Tue Mar-18-08 10:13 AM
Response to Reply #9
10. Well said, but I see this as a lot bigger than an individual candidate
Sure he's a lightening rod but it's the larger picture of a great divide that's so discouraging. We'll see if Obama can do anything to change it in any way.
ayeshahaqqiqa (1000+ posts) Tue Mar-18-08 11:02 AM
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11. today at work the boss took the uniform delivery man into the warehouse to talk politics. I had to go file some things, and heard worried whispers about "white people FOLLOWING him". Boss knew better than to talk in front of me. His excuse for being anti-Dem is that "Obama is a Muslim" which I tried to refute--silly me, I forgot that, as a woman, I'm to shut up and smile and look pretty. Anyway, I know that the whole "Muslim" smokescreen is simply that--these white men are scared that a black man might become president.
I dunno now.
After the exchange between the cali primitive and Fredda earlier in this thread, I'm now about to pronounce Fredda a non-primitive, up there with the likes of other such as my fellow alum Skins, Pedro Picasso, the cuckoo-clock primitive (Koko01), the spunking monk primitive, the operating one, the liberalhistorian, &c., &c., &c.
A non-primitive of course is one level higher than a first-tier primitive; in fact, the premier level on Skins's island.
