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#NotAllRapeCulturesMatter
« on: July 28, 2015, 07:23:00 AM »
Give the Proglodytes enough time and there isn't one of their own sacred cows they won't sodomize before goring...


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Camille Paglia: How Bill Clinton Is Like Bill Cosby [View all]

"....She has been characterized variously as a "contrarian academic" and a feminist " b�te noire," a "witty controversialist," and a maverick, Margaret Wente has called Paglia "a writer in a category of her own... a feminist who hates affirmative action; an atheist who respects religion" and "a Democrat who thinks her party doesn't get it...."

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Is there a possible coming storm brewing?........



In exclusive Salon interview, the cultural critic finds parallels between Cosby and Clinton, takes down modern p.c.

Camille Paglia, the political and cultural critic, has been a brave and brilliant provocateur on Salon for almost 20 years now. Paglia seemed to be on the winning side of the wars over feminism and political correctness in the 1990s, but recently those battles have been reopened. Suddenly we�re talking again and in very different ways about sexual culture on campus. Comedians like Jerry Seinfeld and Bill Maher talk about the return of a stifling political correctness. And we�re staring at the potential rematch of a Clinton and a Bush. There were so many stories that we wanted Paglia�s take on: Bill Cosby, Donald Trump, the state of the Democratic Party. So we spent two hours discussing all of them on Monday, and we�ll present her thoughts over the next three days. Stand back: Paglia does not hold back on anything. Over the next two days, she�ll hold forth on the GOP presidential field in devastating ways, and offer surprising thoughts on how she thinks Clinton vs Sanders will end. We start today with thoughts on Bill Cosby, Bill Clinton, campus political correctness and modern feminism.

The banner on the Drudge Report this morning is that Kathleen Willey is starting a site to collect harassment claims against Bill Clinton. New York magazine, meanwhile, has the stories of 35 women who say they were raped or assaulted by Bill Cosby. I wonder if you see a connection between the two stories: Would Bill Clinton�s exploits be viewed more like Cosby�s if he was in the White House now, instead of in the 1990s?


Right from the start, when the Bill Cosby scandal surfaced, I knew it was not going to bode well for Hillary�s campaign, because young women today have a much lower threshold for tolerance of these matters. The horrible truth is that the feminist establishment in the U.S., led by Gloria Steinem, did in fact apply a double standard to Bill Clinton�s behavior because he was a Democrat. The Democratic president and administration supported abortion rights, and therefore it didn�t matter what his personal behavior was. But we�re living in a different time right now, and young women have absolutely no memory of Bill Clinton. It�s like ancient history for them; there�s no reservoir of accumulated good will. And the actual facts of the matter are that Bill Clinton was a serial abuser of working-class women�he had exploited that power differential even in Arkansas. And then in the case of Monica Lewinsky�I mean, the failure on the part of Gloria Steinem and company to protect her was an absolute disgrace in feminist history! What bigger power differential could there be than between the president of the United States and this poor innocent girl? Not only an intern but clearly a girl who had a kind of pleading, open look to her�somebody who was looking for a father figure. I was enraged! My publicly stated opinion at the time was that I don�t care what public figures do in their private life. It�s a very sophisticated style among the French, and generally in Europe, where the heads of state tend to have mistresses on the side. So what? That doesn�t bother me at all! But the point is, they are sophisticated affairs that the European politicians have, while the Clinton episode was a disgrace.



A cigar and the intern is certainly the opposite of sophisticated. Absolutely! It was frat house stuff! And Monica got nothing out of it. Bill Clinton used her. Hillary was away or inattentive, and he used Monica in the White House�and in the suite of the Oval Office, of all places. He couldn�t have taken her on some fancy trip? She never got the perks of being a mistress; she was there solely to service him. And her life was completely destroyed by the publicity that followed. The Clinton�s are responsible for the destruction of Monica Lewinsky! They probably hoped that she would just go on and have a job, get married, have children, and disappear, but instead she�s like this walking ghoul. Fifteen years later, that�s still the sad role left for her to play. Yes, it�s like something out of �Wuthering Heights� or �Great Expectations��some Victorian novel, where a woman turns into this mourning widow who mopes on and on over a man who abused or abandoned her. Hillary has a lot to answer for, because she took an antagonistic and demeaning position toward her husband�s accusers. So it�s hard for me to understand how the generation of Lena Dunham would or could tolerate the actual facts of Hillary�s history.


So have the times and standards changed enough that Clinton would be seen as Cosby, if he was president today? Oh, yes! There�s absolutely no doubt, especially in this age of instant social media. In most of these cases, like the Bill Clinton and Bill Cosby stories, there�s been a complete neglect of psychology. We�re in a period right now where nobody asks any questions about psychology. No one has any feeling for human motivation. No one talks about sexuality in terms of emotional needs and symbolism and the legacy of childhood. Sexuality has been politicized��Don�t ask any questions!� �No discussion!� �Gay is exactly equivalent to straight!� And thus in this period of psychological blindness or inertness, our art has become dull. There�s nothing interesting being written�in fiction or plays or movies. Everything is boring because of our failure to ask psychological questions. So I say there is a big parallel between Bill Cosby and Bill Clinton�aside from their initials! Young feminists need to understand that this abusive behavior by powerful men signifies their sense that female power is much bigger than they are! These two people, Clinton and Cosby, are emotionally infantile�they�re engaged in a war with female power. It has something to do with their early sense of being smothered by female power�and this pathetic, abusive and criminal behavior is the result of their sense of inadequacy.



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http://www.salon.com/2015/07/28/camille_paglia_how_bill_clinton_is_like_bill_cosby/

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geek tragedy (49,046 posts)

1. Camille Paglia is a troll. nt

I dare you to say that about any other rape victim advocate.

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geek tragedy (49,046 posts)

7. Clinton has been dealing with this crap since 1991.

Very doubtful there are any stones left unturned at this point.

And that makes it better how?

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Darb (702 posts)

8. Nice of you to rush it out for them.

Weak sauce. Let me guess......nevermind.

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sufrommich (17,651 posts)

10. You sound concerned. nt

Too much concern about rape, obviously.

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OKNancy (36,189 posts)

2. Disgusting

No words can express what a piece of crap this article and post is.

That bitch is lying! She asked for it!

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sufrommich (17,651 posts)

3. Camille Paglia is a "feminist" Ann Coulter,beloved by right wingers

and mens rights activist alike.Wish I could say I'm surprised to see her on DU being used to bash the Clintons,but I'm not.

There's that punctuation and spacing thing again.

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4. Camille Paglia?!? Really??!?

Need a little cheese with your whine, Camille?

(This woman is so irrelevant, I haven't seen a word written about or by her in years!)

Rape hysteria, obviously.

I mean, you know how women can be. Amirite?

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12. nobody ever accused Clinton of drugging women

whereas Cosby has an auditorium full of women accusing him of drugging them and raping them

asinine story

(if one is looking to criticize the Clintons, there's plenty of legit material, you don't need stuff like this)

Put some ice on that.


Notice not one person bothered to actually argue the merits of the accusation?

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Re: #NotAllRapeCulturesMatter
« Reply #1 on: July 28, 2015, 07:53:37 AM »
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12. nobody ever accused Clinton of drugging women
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So ... raping women who are conscious and resisting is somehow morally better than Cosby drugging women so they can't resist?

But let me guess ... when Live Action (or whoever it was) exposed PP's doing abortions without reporting incestuous rape DU folk condemned the people who exposed PP?

The "principle" here is pretty obvious: DU folk will defend any A-hole, so long as (s)he is their A-hole.
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Re: #NotAllRapeCulturesMatter
« Reply #2 on: July 28, 2015, 08:08:48 AM »
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The horrible truth is that the feminist establishment in the U.S., led by Gloria Steinem, did in fact apply a double standard to Bill Clinton's behavior because he was a Democrat. The Democratic president and administration supported abortion rights, and therefore it didn't matter what his personal behavior was.

The Truth to liberals is like a cross to a vampire.

The primitives can hide the truth on their board, but they can't control what the rest of society gets to hear and read, and this makes them even more angry.

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Re: #NotAllRapeCulturesMatter
« Reply #3 on: July 28, 2015, 08:14:51 AM »
The Truth to liberals is like a cross to a vampire.

The primitives can hide the truth on their board, but they can't control what the rest of society gets to hear and read, and this makes them even more angry.

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Perhaps the reason the Ku Klux Klams are so adamant in protecting abortion in cases of rape IS Bill Clinton.
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Re: #NotAllRapeCulturesMatter
« Reply #4 on: July 28, 2015, 09:09:03 AM »
Notice not one person bothered to actually argue the merits of the accusation?
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