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Places to live?
« on: August 18, 2013, 04:00:02 PM »
Being self employed I have the freedom to move around a bit and now that my wife and I have our son out of the house... I'm thinking about a move again.

I've lived in some great places over the years and some of those have turned "not so great" over the years too.

I'm looking for somewhere conservative but... don't know how to say this...

I will give examples. Some of my favorite spots:

1) NVA suburbs like Stafford, VA

2) Brentwood TN

3) Scottsdale, AZ

4) Plano, TX

They're all higher income sort of cities but very conservative. I might tend to feel "uncomfortable" in a conservative city in Idaho, Montana or Wyoming.

Ok, I'll just say it. I'm concerned about the "white trash" factor in some rural conservative areas.

So any ideas for super conservative areas... where people are mostly prosperous, polite, moral decent people? Must haves are ample gun rights, property rights and small State governments.

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Re: Places to live?
« Reply #1 on: August 18, 2013, 07:47:07 PM »
I don't mean to offend, but you sound a bit snobbish errr, 'Class conscious' for my neck of the woods; the Missouri and Arkansas Ozarks would definitely not be to your taste.
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Re: Places to live?
« Reply #2 on: August 18, 2013, 07:51:12 PM »
Ok, I'll just say it. I'm concerned about the "white trash" factor in some rural conservative areas.

Uh, what's your definition of "trash"?

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Re: Places to live?
« Reply #3 on: August 18, 2013, 08:05:41 PM »
As far as trashy people, we have the same problems every large city has.  I understand your desire to avoid illiterate thugs, meth heads, and Obama voters.  You can't really go wrong with Williamson County if you can afford it.
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« Reply #4 on: August 18, 2013, 08:27:13 PM »

They're all higher income sort of cities but very conservative. I might tend to feel "uncomfortable" in a conservative city in Idaho, Montana or Wyoming.

Ok, I'll just say it. I'm concerned about the "white trash" factor in some rural conservative areas.

So any ideas for super conservative areas... where people are mostly prosperous, polite, moral decent people? Must haves are ample gun rights, property rights and small State governments.

You are correct in not considering Wyoming.  Even for the very wealthy, their barns are bigger than their houses, and not in pristine shape.  And they drive old, old vehicles.  Ratty old things. 

Also, the cities there can hardly be called that.  60,000 tops?  Pretty soon you know everyone and "familiarity breeds contempt."

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Re: Places to live?
« Reply #5 on: August 18, 2013, 08:51:20 PM »
I don't mean to offend, but you sound a bit snobbish errr, 'Class conscious' for my neck of the woods; the Missouri and Arkansas Ozarks would definitely not be to your taste.

Agreed - wouldn't much fit in northern MN either. 
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Re: Places to live?
« Reply #6 on: August 18, 2013, 09:01:12 PM »
Dunno how long ago it was you lived in Plano, but it's taken a turn too.  
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Re: Places to live?
« Reply #7 on: August 19, 2013, 09:27:25 AM »
Dunno how long ago it was you lived in Plano, but it's taken a turn too.  

Stay west of Coit Rd. and it's not too bad. Or just bite the bullet and go a few miles north to Frisco.
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Re: Places to live?
« Reply #8 on: August 19, 2013, 09:34:13 AM »
Stay west of Coit Rd. and it's not too bad. Or just bite the bullet and go a few miles north to Frisco.

True that, but I am not one to talk.  :)
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Re: Places to live?
« Reply #9 on: August 19, 2013, 09:40:14 AM »
I'd never suggest NJ for many obvious reasons but the part in which I live is very red and not trashy. Lots of farms too and the shore is 35-40 min. away.
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Re: Places to live?
« Reply #10 on: August 19, 2013, 09:41:11 AM »
I might tend to feel "uncomfortable" in a conservative city in Idaho, Montana or Wyoming.

Ok, I'll just say it. I'm concerned about the "white trash" factor in some rural conservative areas.


BS for trashing ID/MT/WY, as I spent a great deal of my childhood there.  Trust me, you're going to find "white trash" in Beverly Hills, too.

And most of the time, the "trashier" places I've seen tend to be more liberal-leaning types (gimme mah free shit!) like Maine, etc.
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Re: Places to live?
« Reply #11 on: August 19, 2013, 09:44:05 AM »
You are correct in not considering Wyoming.  Even for the very wealthy, their barns are bigger than their houses, and not in pristine shape.  And they drive old, old vehicles.  Ratty old things. 

Also, the cities there can hardly be called that.  60,000 tops?  Pretty soon you know everyone and "familiarity breeds contempt."

Plus the fact that in Wyoming, distances are measured not in miles but beers.  I mean, how gauche!

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"Eh, only about two."

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Re: Places to live?
« Reply #12 on: August 19, 2013, 11:04:46 AM »
After connecting with an old friend recently, Mrs E came home and flat-out told me we're going to retire in Louisville, KY.

 :wtf3:

It appears that her sole criterion in moving there is because of her friend. The friend and her husband evidently plan on retiring there in a few years.

 :whatever:

I don't know jack shit about Louisville other than that's where Cassius Clay was born. And the Derby, of course.

We ain't done talking about it.  :nunchuck:
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Re: Places to live?
« Reply #13 on: August 19, 2013, 12:24:52 PM »
Plus the fact that in Wyoming, distances are measured not in miles but beers.  I mean, how gauche!

"So, how far is it from Rock Springs to Green River?"

"Eh, only about two."

"What about Cheyenne to Jackson Hole?"

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Re: Places to live?
« Reply #14 on: August 19, 2013, 12:29:52 PM »
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After connecting with an old friend recently, Mrs E came home and flat-out told me we're going to retire in Louisville, KY.

 :wtf3:

It appears that her sole criterion in moving there is because of her friend. The friend and her husband evidently plan on retiring there in a few years.

 :whatever:

I don't know jack shit about Louisville other than that's where Cassius Clay was born. And the Derby, of course.

We ain't done talking about it.  :nunchuck:
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Why would you want to move if you have a good job, and place to live?
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« Reply #16 on: August 19, 2013, 12:52:25 PM »
After connecting with an old friend recently, Mrs E came home and flat-out told me we're going to retire in Louisville, KY.

 :wtf3:

It appears that her sole criterion in moving there is because of her friend. The friend and her husband evidently plan on retiring there in a few years.

 :whatever:

I don't know jack shit about Louisville other than that's where Cassius Clay was born. And the Derby, of course.

We ain't done talking about it.  :nunchuck:

You can still get snowed on in Louisville, Euph!
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Re: Places to live?
« Reply #17 on: August 19, 2013, 02:56:48 PM »
After connecting with an old friend recently, Mrs E came home and flat-out told me we're going to retire in Louisville, KY.

 :wtf3:

It appears that her sole criterion in moving there is because of her friend. The friend and her husband evidently plan on retiring there in a few years.

 :whatever:

I don't know jack shit about Louisville other than that's where Cassius Clay was born. And the Derby, of course.

We ain't done talking about it.  :nunchuck:


I keep telling you where to retire.... and you keep moaning and groaning about Dollywood!!! It's 45 minutes away!!

No state income tax, cheaper to live than where you are, it's pretty here, I'm here!!

You might get 1 snow a year that requires shoveling the driveway, even then, chances are it will melt before you have to get out, since everything in town will shut down if there is more than an inch on the ground.
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« Reply #18 on: August 19, 2013, 03:06:43 PM »
After connecting with an old friend recently, Mrs E came home and flat-out told me we're going to retire in Louisville, KY.

 

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Why would you want to move if you have a good job, and place to live?


Sea, take another look above. AFTER retirement. That is, my 2nd retirement.
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« Reply #19 on: August 19, 2013, 03:21:57 PM »
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« Reply #20 on: August 19, 2013, 03:31:34 PM »
That looks awfully HOA-y. 

Yeah, and I will NOT ever sign a covenant agreement with an HOA.
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« Reply #21 on: August 19, 2013, 03:36:39 PM »
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Nice area, I've played the Jack Nicholas course there. My in-laws live in Milledgeville so my main objection to the area is it's really, really, really hot during the summer. Otherwise, you're still out but close enough to Atlanta if you need to shop or fly somewhere.

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Re: Places to live?
« Reply #22 on: August 19, 2013, 04:22:47 PM »
After connecting with an old friend recently, Mrs E came home and flat-out told me we're going to retire in Louisville, KY.

 :wtf3:

It appears that her sole criterion in moving there is because of her friend. The friend and her husband evidently plan on retiring there in a few years.

 :whatever:

I don't know jack shit about Louisville other than that's where Cassius Clay was born. And the Derby, of course.

We ain't done talking about it.  :nunchuck:

I have a lifelong friend who lives there, in an older community in the area that I believe used to be a military base at the time of the 1918 influenza epidemic (Think it was closed down and developed before WW2).  It's just inside the ring road that runs past Churchill Downs.  You could do a lot worse than that area of Kentucky, Fort  Knox is fairly close if you need to take advantage of any retiree benefits there, and then there's the Knob Creek shoots every spring and fall to go and enjoy, and you can live within driving distance of the city but still be in rural land south of the beltway.  However, the traffic in the Louisville metro area is very heavy on the radial roads in and out, and Kentucky has a fairly stiff income tax by midwestern standards.  There are, of course, a lot of parts of town you want to stay the Hell out of.
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« Reply #23 on: August 19, 2013, 04:30:01 PM »
I have a lifelong friend who lives there, in an older community in the area that I believe used to be a military base at the time of the 1918 influenza epidemic (Think it was closed down and developed before WW2).  It's just inside the ring road that runs past Churchill Downs.  You could do a lot worse than that area of Kentucky, Fort  Knox is fairly close if you need to take advantage of any retiree benefits there, and then there's the Knob Creek shoots every spring and fall to go and enjoy, and you can live within driving distance of the city but still be in rural land south of the beltway.  However, the traffic in the Louisville metro area is very heavy on the radial roads in and out, and Kentucky has a fairly stiff income tax by midwestern standards.  There are, of course, a lot of parts of town you want to stay the Hell out of.

I'm going to lay low on this one and hope she forgets about it. States sales tax is 6%; Georgia's is 4%. Homestead law, etc. Gotta do more research on the income tax angle. In most states, military retirement isn't taxed, or is taxed only beyond a certain level.

I don't have a huge issue about Kentucky, except that I'm in absolutely no ****ing mood to live someplace where I have to shovel ****ing snow. Ain't gonna happen.
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Re: Places to live?
« Reply #24 on: August 19, 2013, 04:37:00 PM »
Yeah, and I will NOT ever sign a covenant agreement with an HOA.

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