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Auburn Man Facing Charges After Killing Bear In His Backyard
http://boston.cbslocal.com/2013/04/07/auburn-man-facing-charges-after-killing-bear-in-his-backyard/

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Richard Ahlstrand told WBZ-TV he was stocking his bird feeder Friday night when a bear about seven feet tall and 300-to-400 pounds started chasing him.

That’s when he turned his shotgun on the bear.

“I didn’t have time to aim through the sights, but I aimed in the direction of the head on this thing and I pulled the trigger before it got to me.  It just dropped,” he said.

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Re: Auburn Man Facing Charges After Killing Bear In His Backyard
« Reply #1 on: April 08, 2013, 08:49:47 PM »
The poor defenseless vicious bear.

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Re: Auburn Man Facing Charges After Killing Bear In His Backyard
« Reply #2 on: April 09, 2013, 09:55:31 AM »
Filling his bird feeder while carrying his shotgun, and loaded with something that would kill a bear?  Something about his story does not add up...

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Re: Auburn Man Facing Charges After Killing Bear In His Backyard
« Reply #3 on: April 09, 2013, 10:51:07 AM »
Black bear or brown bear?...That be racism.....no charge for killing a white bear.
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Re: Auburn Man Facing Charges After Killing Bear In His Backyard
« Reply #4 on: April 09, 2013, 11:00:58 AM »
What an asshole!!  And she has cubs too!! How those cubs supposed to survive without their mother?? He was baiting that bear big time!!!! It is assholes like him, that ruin it for others!!! :bird:
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Re: Auburn Man Facing Charges After Killing Bear In His Backyard
« Reply #5 on: April 09, 2013, 11:10:17 AM »
I'll side with the guy.  Bears in the neighborhood I live in will tear down bird feeders for food.  There's no crime in having bird feeders (yet) and the guy says he was out filling his feeders and thought he saw a bear the day before, that's why he carried the gun.  For me, I probably would have stopped feeding the birds until I was sure there were no bears around.

I'm not seeing anything unusual in the story except he's in the whacko state of Massachusetts and, being 76 years old, should know that his state if full of nuts who would rather he die than the bear and that guns are evil.

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Re: Auburn Man Facing Charges After Killing Bear In His Backyard
« Reply #6 on: April 09, 2013, 11:24:06 AM »
I'll side with the guy.  Bears in the neighborhood I live in will tear down bird feeders for food.  There's no crime in having bird feeders (yet) and the guy says he was out filling his feeders and thought he saw a bear the day before, that's why he carried the gun.  For me, I probably would have stopped feeding the birds until I was sure there were no bears around.

I'm not seeing anything unusual in the story except he's in the whacko state of Massachusetts and, being 76 years old, should know that his state if full of nuts who would rather he die than the bear and that guns are evil.

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No!! He purposely, went out there at night, and baited her!!! Who puts birdfeed in the birdfeeder at night?? Fish and game in NH , anyway, tell you to bring in your birdfeeders at night, for that exact reason. My mom has to bring in the suet at night because of racoons.
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Re: Auburn Man Facing Charges After Killing Bear In His Backyard
« Reply #7 on: April 09, 2013, 11:53:39 AM »
I'll side with the guy.  Bears in the neighborhood I live in will tear down bird feeders for food.  There's no crime in having bird feeders (yet) and the guy says he was out filling his feeders and thought he saw a bear the day before, that's why he carried the gun.  For me, I probably would have stopped feeding the birds until I was sure there were no bears around.

I'm not seeing anything unusual in the story except he's in the whacko state of Massachusetts and, being 76 years old, should know that his state if full of nuts who would rather he die than the bear and that guns are evil.

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76 year old man stands his ground against a 300 pound bear how many men or woman have ever seen a charging bear close up to live to tell the tale ?? Bears on a level ground can get up to 30 mph.  no problem catching someone on a bicycle or even a Moped.

Bears are not nice cuddly beasts, they are meat eaters, will eat most anything they can catch.    Get one that is ill or in pain, an abscessed tooth or some kind of mange, even the bufflow have to keep an eye on the youth if this bear is in their area.

Time of the year for bears starving to come out of hibernation and hungry as hell.

My question is if this had been a 76 year old Woman that killed the bear, would things be much different ??


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Re: Auburn Man Facing Charges After Killing Bear In His Backyard
« Reply #8 on: April 09, 2013, 12:16:16 PM »
My mom has to bring in the suet at night because of racoons.

I don't do that. I poison the vermin with lead.
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Re: Auburn Man Facing Charges After Killing Bear In His Backyard
« Reply #9 on: April 09, 2013, 12:41:07 PM »
Filling his bird feeder while carrying his shotgun, and loaded with something that would kill a bear?  Something about his story does not add up...

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Re: Auburn Man Facing Charges After Killing Bear In His Backyard
« Reply #10 on: April 09, 2013, 01:03:43 PM »
No!! He purposely, went out there at night, and baited her!!! Who puts birdfeed in the birdfeeder at night?? Fish and game in NH , anyway, tell you to bring in your birdfeeders at night, for that exact reason. My mom has to bring in the suet at night because of racoons.

I can't agree that he baited the bear and cannot be convinced otherwise.  Putting out birdseed when there are bears around was a dumb thing to do, tho.

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Re: Auburn Man Facing Charges After Killing Bear In His Backyard
« Reply #11 on: April 09, 2013, 01:59:02 PM »
I can't agree that he baited the bear and cannot be convinced otherwise.  Putting out birdseed when there are bears around was a dumb thing to do, tho.

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A shotgun will have a VERY had time killing a bear. Now, pissing it off........... :o


His story stinks.
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Re: Auburn Man Facing Charges After Killing Bear In His Backyard
« Reply #12 on: April 09, 2013, 09:58:04 PM »
I can't agree that he baited the bear and cannot be convinced otherwise.  Putting out birdseed when there are bears around was a dumb thing to do, tho.

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He thought , he saw a bear the night before, eating the birdfeed, he goes out the next night and fills the birdfeeder, with a shotgun, no less.
The mother bear with her cubs feels threatened., and she goes on the defensive.
I don't know about where you live, but here, in the local news pamphlet, Fish and Game, warn people, that bears are coming out of hibernation, PLEASE bring your feeders in at night, and don't leave garbage barrels out. People do it anyway, and get into a snit, when the birdfeeder pole is mangled, and their garbage is strewn all over their yard...
 THIS IS COMMON SENSE PEOPLE!!  Oh yeah I forgot.... :thatsright:
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Re: Auburn Man Facing Charges After Killing Bear In His Backyard
« Reply #13 on: April 10, 2013, 07:42:36 AM »
He thought , he saw a bear the night before, eating the birdfeed, he goes out the next night and fills the birdfeeder, with a shotgun, no less.
The mother bear with her cubs feels threatened., and she goes on the defensive.
I don't know about where you live, but here, in the local news pamphlet, Fish and Game, warn people, that bears are coming out of hibernation, PLEASE bring your feeders in at night, and don't leave garbage barrels out. People do it anyway, and get into a snit, when the birdfeeder pole is mangled, and their garbage is strewn all over their yard...
 THIS IS COMMON SENSE PEOPLE!!  Oh yeah I forgot.... :thatsright:

When any 4 legged or 2 legged varmint comes on the property I pay taxes on they had better act mighty respectfull be it any time of the day or night.   

You see as long as there is no law against what I do, I should be able to do whatever I wish unthreatened no matter how strange or stupid  to others. 


What ever the old fella was doing at any time of day or night he has the Right do so.

Getting so one has to watch what they do inside their own homes.



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Re: Auburn Man Facing Charges After Killing Bear In His Backyard
« Reply #14 on: April 10, 2013, 07:57:20 AM »
Filling his bird feeder while carrying his shotgun, and loaded with something that would kill a bear?  Something about his story does not add up...

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Doesn't everyone?

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Re: Auburn Man Facing Charges After Killing Bear In His Backyard
« Reply #15 on: April 10, 2013, 08:56:18 AM »
When any 4 legged or 2 legged varmint comes on the property I pay taxes on they had better act mighty respectfull be it any time of the day or night.   

You see as long as there is no law against what I do, I should be able to do whatever I wish unthreatened no matter how strange or stupid  to others. 


What ever the old fella was doing at any time of day or night he has the Right do so.

Getting so one has to watch what they do inside their own homes.



Vesta!! There is a big diference btween a bear and a human being. A humna being(some of us anyway) uses logic and common sense,. This mother bear was acting on instinct and protecting her little ones. She acts on natural instinct, she's hungry and and it is an easy meal for her, because she needs to feed her cubs. She doesn't know right from wrong, cause and effect.
This is not having rights to shoot at anything that looks at you crosseyed. Many animals that tend to be nocturnal probably cross through your yord for any number of reasons.
And bears are not maneating viscious animals.  The two years I lived at the cabin, not once did Rugaiya make any kind of move that was menacing towards me. I respected her as a mother, and kept my distance. I enoyed seeing them every spring and was astonished on how fast those cubs grew. Akbar(,The male cub) was bigger than his mum!!
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Re: Auburn Man Facing Charges After Killing Bear In His Backyard
« Reply #16 on: April 10, 2013, 09:14:59 AM »
And bears are not maneating viscious animals.  The two years I lived at the cabin, not once did Rugaiya make any kind of move that was menacing towards me. I respected her as a mother, and kept my distance. I enoyed seeing them every spring and was astonished on how fast those cubs grew. Akbar(,The male cub) was bigger than his mum!!

You had Muslim bears?
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Re: Auburn Man Facing Charges After Killing Bear In His Backyard
« Reply #17 on: April 10, 2013, 09:26:13 AM »
You had Muslim bears?
Oh you mean the names?? Akbar was the Emporor if India, in the 14th century, Rugaiya, was his 1st wife, and Jodh Bai  was his 2nd wife and the mother of the heir(Jahangir).
I have always loved history, and I was reading up on India's history when I named them....
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Re: Auburn Man Facing Charges After Killing Bear In His Backyard
« Reply #18 on: April 10, 2013, 09:28:29 AM »
Doesn't everyone?

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Well now there are circumstances that call for taking precautions.

I see a bear or mountain lion at some time on my property, I will pull in the cats and kids, not tie out fluffy unsupervised.

There was the case of a father of 2-3 little kids that played in the back yard.  Father heard the little ones scream in fear ran out to see a bear charging the little ones .   He grabbed his weapon and shot the bear mere feet from his children.  He went to jail and charged with hunting out of season, having no hunting license and 2-3 other felony's.

Even the anti-gun folks went nuts, one time they agreed with the NRA that this was all BS.

One small town in N.H. took things into their own hands when a man was released from prison after 20+ years to come home and live with family still living there.    He had kidnapped, raped and murdered an 8 year old child from the town.  Her family still lived in the town.

Outrage from the citizens that this monster was back in town and likely to come into contact with the family of the dead child. Seems there was nothing the police or town could do about this, Monsters have rights too.

Quite a few citizens began to open carry,men,woman,grandparents,
people with no dog in the fight, just folks that knew a monster from the past had come to town.

Took about a year to get the poor Monster to move into another comunity most likely in another state.    Could be he now lives 2 floors up, drinking, dancing and having a party.

This old duffer knew there was a Monster on his property, he went about his life taking precautions and is now accused of baiting the Monster.---May as well accuse the parents of children of baiting a pedophile by allowing their  children play outside the house.




    

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Re: Auburn Man Facing Charges After Killing Bear In His Backyard
« Reply #19 on: April 10, 2013, 09:43:58 AM »
Well now there are circumstances that call for taking precautions.

I see a bear or mountain lion at some time on my property, I will pull in the cats and kids, not tie out fluffy unsupervised.

There was the case of a father of 2-3 little kids that played in the back yard.  Father heard the little ones scream in fear ran out to see a bear charging the little ones .   He grabbed his weapon and shot the bear mere feet from his children.  He went to jail and charged with hunting out of season, having no hunting license and 2-3 other felony's.

Even the anti-gun folks went nuts, one time they agreed with the NRA that this was all BS.

One small town in N.H. took things into their own hands when a man was released from prison after 20+ years to come home and live with family still living there.    He had kidnapped, raped and murdered an 8 year old child from the town.  Her family still lived in the town.

Outrage from the citizens that this monster was back in town and likely to come into contact with the family of the dead child. Seems there was nothing the police or town could do about this, Monsters have rights too.

Quite a few citizens began to open carry,men,woman,grandparents,
people with no dog in the fight, just folks that knew a monster from the past had come to town.

Took about a year to get the poor Monster to move into another comunity most likely in another state.    Could be he now lives 2 floors up, drinking, dancing and having a party.

This old duffer knew there was a Monster on his property, he went about his life taking precautions and is now accused of baiting the Monster.---May as well accuse the parents of children of baiting a pedophile by allowing their  children play outside the house.




    

Vesta!!! A bear is not a monster!! He is an animal, relying on instinct. This idiot put birdfeed in a birdfeeder at night, knowing that bear probably come back that night. Itis like feeding a stray cat, who keeps coming back, then go into a snit because that cat bites a small child, and orders to have the cat put down. I have no clue, how you can compare an animal living in the wild to a convicted rapist!! :argh: :argh: :banghead:
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Re: Auburn Man Facing Charges After Killing Bear In His Backyard
« Reply #20 on: April 10, 2013, 09:51:34 AM »
Everybody loves monsters.

Especially when they're eating sausage and pepperoni.

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Re: Auburn Man Facing Charges After Killing Bear In His Backyard
« Reply #21 on: April 10, 2013, 09:55:37 AM »
Everybody loves monsters.

Especially when they're eating sausage and pepperoni.


Are you trying to calm me down?? It is NOT working!!
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Re: Auburn Man Facing Charges After Killing Bear In His Backyard
« Reply #22 on: April 10, 2013, 09:56:48 AM »
Are you trying to calm me down?? It is NOT working!!

No. The pizza will calm you down when you have a slice.

That's the way pizza works.
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« Reply #23 on: April 10, 2013, 10:08:45 AM »
Oh you mean the names?? Akbar was the Emporor if India, in the 14th century, Rugaiya, was his 1st wife, and Jodh Bai  was his 2nd wife and the mother of the heir(Jahangir).
I have always loved history, and I was reading up on India's history when I named them....

Indian bears. Not woo-woo Indians, but dot-on-forehead Indians.

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Re: Auburn Man Facing Charges After Killing Bear In His Backyard
« Reply #24 on: April 10, 2013, 10:28:29 AM »
Yeah, not buying it.

We've had bears in our yard, and yes, they've gone after our feeder.  But I'd be filling that sucker in the DAYtime.

And what has he done that he's being charged with illegal posession of a firearm?  Does this guy have a record?
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