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Offline LC EFA

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Re: Right on the Left Coast...NLIO
« Reply #25 on: January 21, 2013, 05:12:08 AM »
Ryan!  The guy with the hooch has finally arrived...  :rotf:  Welcome brother!  It's good ole fashioned ho-down...  Hey, we know how to party don't we.  :rotf:

Did someone say hooch ?

Better serve that in a mason jar !

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Re: Right on the Left Coast...NLIO
« Reply #26 on: January 21, 2013, 06:12:29 AM »
Did someone say hooch ?

Better serve that in a mason jar !


ERRR, about that video, did anyone notice the size of the beer gut on the dancer ???? 

How can a male that limber still have a pot belly is my question ??

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Re: Right on the Left Coast...NLIO
« Reply #27 on: January 21, 2013, 07:06:01 AM »
Tell that to the Emperor in 4 ABY when the Rebel Alliance blows up the second Death Star.

There was peace under the Empire. The Rebels caused the war and deaths of many. When the Empire took over it mainly affected the Jedi who take away many things from people; such as love, free will, and all emotions. The Dark Side believes in using unlimited power and emotion to overcome your enemy. Besides just because the Emperor and Darth Vader die doesn't mean its the end of the Empire. The Empire lives on long after they're dead. Its an immovable object. The Rebels have done basically... nothing.

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Re: Right on the Left Coast...NLIO
« Reply #28 on: January 21, 2013, 09:04:32 PM »
There was peace under the Empire. The Rebels caused the war and deaths of many. When the Empire took over it mainly affected the Jedi who take away many things from people; such as love, free will, and all emotions. The Dark Side believes in using unlimited power and emotion to overcome your enemy. Besides just because the Emperor and Darth Vader die doesn't mean its the end of the Empire. The Empire lives on long after they're dead. Its an immovable object. The Rebels have done basically... nothing.

It's extremely difficult to call the conditions under the Empire, "peace". What condition existed was tyranny. Dictatorship. I would question the "conservative credentials" of anyone who would side with the Empire, because of what the Empire stood for, and what it took away from it's citizens. Emperor Palpatine in many ways is no different that Chairman MaObama. Rule by executive order. Sidestep the process whenever you can. Consolidate power, while stripping it from the electorate. Oh, and let's not forget the Sith, and their affinity for slavery. Not exactly an ideal which coincides with traditional conservative beliefs.

As for your assertion to the longevity of the Empire, it's a stretch to say the Empire continued on, even after the death of the Emperor. What was left was the Imperial Remnant, which was the holdings of the Empire which the Rebels did not control, or were so remote, the Rebels didn't care about them. The fleet was scattered, under various commands until the emergence of Thrawn. Even Thrawn could not restore the Empire to the power and territory it formerly held under Palpatine, and the Remnant had no choice but to recognize the Republic upon it's reformation.

While the Rebels brought the war, their actions were no different than those of our Founding Fathers, rebelling against oppressive tyranny. Never forget that the Tree of Liberty must be replenished from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants...even in a galaxy far far away.


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Re: Right on the Left Coast...NLIO
« Reply #29 on: January 21, 2013, 10:16:47 PM »
The Empire was only "tyranical" to the point of view of the rebels. The Empire did not have full control of the galaxy which fueled the fire of the Rebellion. The only reason the rebellion gained momentum was the use of the Death Star. Poor choices but every nation/empire makes them. It gained more momentum after it was used. Though the Empire should never have fallen. Technologically and Militarily it was superior. Emergency powers were bestowed on the then Chancellor Palpatine with the help of Naboo supporting the use of emergency powers. The Jedi didn't help then. In reality the Jedi are the cause of the war. They could've stopped him if they wanted to, but they're weak. The Rebellion would've never happened if they just tossed the Chancellor out after he went over his legal amount of terms. They welcomed the Empire really. It was a brilliant power play. You gotta admire that.

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Re: Right on the Left Coast...NLIO
« Reply #30 on: January 22, 2013, 01:14:16 AM »
ERRR, about that video, did anyone notice the size of the beer gut on the dancer ????  

How can a male that limber still have a pot belly is my question ??

Keep limber with a good female coach !    :naughty:

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Re: Right on the Left Coast...NLIO
« Reply #31 on: January 22, 2013, 09:56:06 PM »
The Empire was only "tyranical" to the point of view of the rebels. The Empire did not have full control of the galaxy which fueled the fire of the Rebellion. The only reason the rebellion gained momentum was the use of the Death Star. Poor choices but every nation/empire makes them. It gained more momentum after it was used. Though the Empire should never have fallen. Technologically and Militarily it was superior. Emergency powers were bestowed on the then Chancellor Palpatine with the help of Naboo supporting the use of emergency powers. The Jedi didn't help then. In reality the Jedi are the cause of the war. They could've stopped him if they wanted to, but they're weak. The Rebellion would've never happened if they just tossed the Chancellor out after he went over his legal amount of terms. They welcomed the Empire really. It was a brilliant power play. You gotta admire that.

You cant really believe that ALL of Naboo supported giving Palpatine emergency powers. That action, is the sole responsibility of one idiotic, bumbling Gungan buffon who was too dumb to see he was being manipulated into making a big mistake, and fell right into the Sith Lord's trap.

Make no mistake, the Emergency Powers Act would not have come to pass, had it not been for the undue influence of the Sith on the Senate. That is hardly the act of a benevolent government / politician. Its an act of tyranny, plain and simple.

You do have a point, that the Senate made no move to remove Palpatine when he overstepped his bounds. But, once again, Sith influence may have played a role in preventing their action, and without the Jedi to assist them (because of Order 66) the non-Force users of the Senate would have no way to combat the influence of the Sith Lord.

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Re: Right on the Left Coast...NLIO
« Reply #32 on: January 23, 2013, 11:21:52 PM »
Welcome to the mad house
Voting for Obama for a second term would be like the captain of the Titanic backing into the iceberg again

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Re: Right on the Left Coast...NLIO
« Reply #33 on: January 24, 2013, 01:49:20 AM »