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     No, you g-d stupid meathead liberal a-hole, let me remind you of what one would learn in an economics course:

     Y = C + I + G + (X-M).

     C is you and me. I is businesses. G is the government. The rest is exports and imports.

     Now then: Trump is finally shutting down C to some extent, and is also creating incentives for C and I via tax policy. As a result, there will be some impact to Y, but to the degree that G shouldn't be a big part of GNP, that's a GOOD thing. G is "crowding out" I, which is a BAD thing.

     There will be short term "pain" as the government shrinks to a more appropriate size. Unemployment will increase for two reasons: first, the government should never have employed that many people in the first place, and second, the lying-assed Biden admin was cooking the numbers anyway.

     Now shut up and go take your drugs.

High five
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This is long, but worth one's time to see how petulant and disconnected with reality that the legacy leftist media is with the country.

No link as it is paywall protected...

‘It Was 90-Plus Minutes of Bad Moments’: 9 Opinion Writers on Trump’s Address to Congress

President Trump addressed a joint session of Congress Tuesday night, casting himself as the leader of a revolution that had already restored free speech, saved American automakers from destruction and ushered in “the greatest and most successful era in the history of our country.” It was “a time for big dreams and bold action,” he told Congress. Soon, he said, he’d balance the budget, end the war in Ukraine and bring back “true democracy.” Here’s what our writers thought of his speech.

Best Moment
Binyamin Appelbaum Representative Al Green’s stand in defiance of a president who has governed in defiance of the law. Green’s civil disobedience was the behavior of a man who believes that Trump is a threat to American democracy. Why did he stand alone?

Josh Barro Trump boasted of the sharp drop in migrant encounters at the southern border and mocked President Joe Biden’s insistence that better enforcement would require new laws, declaring, “It turned out that all we really needed was a new president.” An effective line on his strongest issue.

Frank Bruni Trump is on solid political ground — and in his comfort zone — when he talks about cracking down on illegal immigration. Among many lies, he truthfully said that fewer migrants were unlawfully crossing the border: “They heard my words, and they chose not to come.” Hard to dispute that.

Michelle Cottle When Trump had the director of the Secret Service make a 13-year-old boy diagnosed with brain cancer an honorary agent. It was a heartwarming plug for the president’s Make America Healthy Again agenda — and a clever way to gloss over the problematic views of his health and human services chief.

Michelle Goldberg Green’s heckling. Democrats shouldn’t have shown up at all, but if they were going to be there, noisy protest made more sense than holding up dumb little paddles. There’s nothing dignified about quietly playing the foil to an autocratic thug gloating about stripping America for parts.

Katherine Mangu-Ward I have long dreamed of a president dedicating a significant portion of a major speech to cuts to the federal government. Alas, the cuts cited by Trump were relatively small, unlikely to withstand scrutiny from the courts or (as in the case of his promises to stop Social Security payments to 129-year-olds) fictional.

Daniel McCarthy The State of the Union and presidential addresses to Congress like Tuesday night’s have become ritualized partisan performances, so when Trump said there was nothing he could do to get Democrats to stand, applaud or smile, he exposed the theatricality of their opposition. (Not that occasional bipartisanship isn’t theatrical, too.)

Matthew Schmitz Trump’s recitation of improbable-sounding expenses he claimed to have cut was funny. More important, it dramatized the growing conviction on the right that too much public money is going to NGOs that operate without direct political accountability.

Farah Stockman Trump is good at made-for-TV moments that celebrate ordinary people — a kid with cancer gets deputized as a U.S. Secret Service agent, a high schooler finds out he got into West Point, a mother is told that her dead daughter has a wildlife refuge named after her.

Worst Moment
Appelbaum It was 90-plus minutes of bad moments — a typical Trump medley of fabrications, provocations and insults. But the worst part was the perversity of Trump performing a democratic ritual even as he breaks this nation’s laws and destroys its institutions.

Barro The section on inflation, which Trump seemed eager to get past because he has nothing to offer. He blamed Biden, he proposed inflationary policies like new tax cuts, and he touted his massive tariffs, despite the “disturbance” they will cause. Voters elected Trump to cut prices, and he is raising them. No wonder he’d rather talk about girls’ volleyball.

Bruni What nerve Trump has — accusing Democrats of being too causelessly meanspirited and ceaselessly ungenerous to applaud him as he delivered remarks that, like his entire political career, hinged on mocking and savaging them. Unbelievable. And yet not.

Cottle His repeated, literal finger-pointing at the Democratic lawmakers in attendance, as he gloated, trashed Biden and indulged in his characteristic name-calling. “Radical. Left. Lunatics.”

Goldberg Trump’s barrage of easily debunked lies about millions of dead people who could be collecting Social Security checks. The best-case scenario is that he was simply demonstrating, once again, his contempt for the truth, but it seemed like propaganda to justify Social Security cuts.

Mangu-Ward Trump’s promise to balance the federal budget was a lie, and everyone in the room knew it. In the coming days, the people in that room will probably pass a continuing resolution that utterly fails to take seriously the real drivers of the deficit: entitlements, military spending and debt service.

McCarthy The Democrats set themselves up to have the worst moment of the night with their jeering and heckling, especially since it reached full fury as Trump was recounting his popular-vote victory. That made it sound as though the opposition was angry at the American public.

Schmitz The opening section of an overlong speech was wasted on hollow boasting.

Stockman When he walked into the Capitol, a place he incited his supporters to storm, cheered by many of the very people who were forced to flee. A very surreal moment.

What Else Mattered
Appelbaum The frat boy glee on the Republican side of the aisle.

Barro Trump made good use of Skutniks, especially DJ Daniels, a 13-year-old with cancer whom Trump named as an honorary Secret Service agent. Even though his speech felt interminable — far longer than any State of the Union or joint address to Congress since at least 1964 — these bright moments are what casual observers are likely to see as highlights.

Bruni Everything in Trump’s world is extreme, absolute, unnuanced, superlative. Worst ever. Best ever. “Like nothing that has ever been seen before.” Over and over. It’s juvenile. It’s narcissistic. It’s exhausting — like his speech, which made Sunday night’s Oscars seem succinct.

Cottle Much of the speech was geared toward painting Democrats as knee-jerk champions of a deeply flawed federal government in which much of the American public has lost faith. Clever.

Goldberg Commerce Secretary Howard Lutnick has been floating the idea that Trump could reverse his destructive tariffs on Canada and Mexico as soon as Wednesday, but that’s not the message Trump sent on Tuesday night. “Tariffs are not just about protecting American jobs,” he said. “They are about protecting the soul of our country.”

Mangu-Ward Representative Thomas Massie, Republican of Kentucky, brought the Silk Road founder Ross Ulbricht as his guest. Ulbricht recently received a pardon from Trump, the culmination of years of advocacy by Ulbricht’s mom, Lyn, to free her unjustly imprisoned son.

McCarthy Trump has become a master of drawing battle lines that put Democrats at a disadvantage, which he did here by weaving guests’ stories of suffering and injustice into his calls for border controls, stronger policing and children’s safety. As controversial as his policies may sound at first, he turns them into common sense.

Schmitz Various European countries have tried Trump’s “gold card” idea to sell citizenship, and several are now backing away from it. It’s a scheme the United States will also come to regret.

Stockman Trump didn’t gloat as much as I would have expected when he read a message from President Volodymyr Zelensky of Ukraine offering to sign a mineral deal that was derailed last week after a testy press availability with Trump and his entourage.

And the commentators bios here:

Binyamin Appelbaum covers economics and business for Opinion.

Josh Barro is the host of the podcast “Serious Trouble.” He also writes a newsletter, Very Serious.

Frank Bruni is a professor of journalism and public policy at Duke University and the author of “The Age of Grievance.” He writes a weekly newsletter for Opinion.

Michelle Cottle covers national politics for Opinion.

Michelle Goldberg is a Times columnist.

Katherine Mangu-Ward is the editor in chief of Reason magazine.

Daniel McCarthy is the editor of Modern Age: A Conservative Review.

Matthew Schmitz (@matthewschmitz) is a founder and an editor of the online magazine Compact.

Farah Stockman is a member of the editorial board and the author of “American Made: What Happens to People When Work Disappears.”
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     No, you g-d stupid meathead liberal a-hole, let me remind you of what one would learn in an economics course:

     Y = C + I + G + (X-M).

     C is you and me. I is businesses. G is the government. The rest is exports and imports.

     Now then: Trump is finally shutting down C to some extent, and is also creating incentives for C and I via tax policy. As a result, there will be some impact to Y, but to the degree that G shouldn't be a big part of GNP, that's a GOOD thing. G is "crowding out" I, which is a BAD thing.

     There will be short term "pain" as the government shrinks to a more appropriate size. Unemployment will increase for two reasons: first, the government should never have employed that many people in the first place, and second, the lying-assed Biden admin was cooking the numbers anyway.

     Now shut up and go take your drugs.
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Nothing is funnier or wronger than a DUmbass trying to talk about economics.  :rofl:
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No different that arguing that if we shut down the illegal drug smuggling, it will put a bunch of people out of work and negatively affect the economy.
They fail to acknowledge the flawed foundation on which all of this is built. Government is not a welfare system for providing jobs. Illegals consuming both jobs and housing have raised the costs for all of us while suppressing wages for legitimate citizens. We will never get jobs back here without eliminating incentives to produce overseas. DUmmies are partisan idiots, nothing else matters to them, it is all about power and propaganda as a means to achieve it.
They are Ok with taking 19 vaccines that make you a little sick, all in the name of the bigger picture of avoiding contracting a deadly disease, but for some reason, this economic vaccination is unacceptable because it will be a bit painful.
Every day they prove more and more that they do not have the best interests of our nation in mind.

So much for the myth of the pro union party.
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If housing is being vacated by the millions, housing supply goes up. As inventory goes up, prices come down.
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No different that arguing that if we shut down the illegal drug smuggling, it will put a bunch of people out of work and negatively affect the economy.
They fail to acknowledge the flawed foundation on which all of this is built. Government is not a welfare system for providing jobs. Illegals consuming both jobs and housing have raised the costs for all of us while suppressing wages for legitimate citizens. We will never get jobs back here without eliminating incentives to produce overseas. DUmmies are partisan idiots, nothing else matters to them, it is all about power and propaganda as a means to achieve it.
They are Ok with taking 19 vaccines that make you a little sick, all in the name of the bigger picture of avoiding contracting a deadly disease, but for some reason, this economic vaccination is unacceptable because it will be a bit painful.
Every day they prove more and more that they do not have the best interests of our nation in mind.
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chowmama (629 posts)

I was trying to explain to DH what I think is going to happen with housing, owned and rental, in this current insanity.

I think he’s finally listening.

First, we’re deporting a lot of people. They all lived somewhere. Then there’s the number of people who are losing their jobs due to Douche. The tariffs are also going to force a lot of workplaces to close or cut way back because they can’t afford or simply can’t get the tools, parts or supplies they need to operate. We can't make them here without building the facilities that will need the imported machinery and supplies to get started and that process takes years anyway. More jobs lost.

People who aren’t working won’t be spending, so there goes retail. People who depend on Social Security and the other safety nets also won’t be spending. As retail fails, more jobs will be lost. People who lose their jobs often lose their homes. Go figure.

So, with a lot, and I mean a lot, of empty units, housing and real estate values are going to eventually plunge. Now the banks get involved. I remember this from the last recession. Your property goes underwater and you owe more than it’s actually worth. Often a lot more. They’ll start calling in the loans to be paid in full and when you can’t do that, they’ll foreclose.

And who can pay their loans in full at a moment’s notice? Our economic experts and entire economic structure insist that you be mortgaged to the hilt. You were supposed to buy or build the biggest house that anybody would loan you money to afford. (Hello, McMansion!) Same with cars. No debt, no credit rating. And I’ve personally sat through 401k investment meetings where the speaker told us it was crazy to spend money paying down debt when you should be investing it instead. One stopped me personally after the meeting because I’d stopped paying in and I pleasantly told him that none of his funds were paying anywhere near the interest on my loans. I was actually money ahead paying off my debt. He smiled and walked on. Research is a bitch.

Of course, now the stock market is tanking. Goodbye, 401k. At least it wasn’t a lot of money.

All of these foreclosed homes? Now empty. And we take another circle around the drain. Rinse, repeat.

I think we’re headed for a full-fledged depression, lasting a number of years. I hope I’m wrong.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/111699790


More DUmmie stupid.
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The DUmpster / Re: And, so it begins...
« Last post by SVPete on March 05, 2025, 10:11:41 AM »
Given a couple things missing from OldBaldy1701E's post - dogs that didn't bark - I'm not sure he experienced power disruption instead of Internet service disruption. He mentioned neither flickering house lights nor having rebooted his computer.
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What did the Dems validate for us yesterday... that they hate 13-year-old African American children being cured of cancer, and they hate women in sports. Frees them up  to abort more babies and run for office.
I about lost it.

Even MSNBC was trashing the Dems behavior last night. On Joy's former program they proclaimed that after last night, the left should give up hope of retaking the House until after 2026.
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