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Offline franksolich

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Idiot Briggs primitive denies
« on: August 23, 2009, 06:04:13 PM »
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Oh my.

The Idiot Briggs, who did NOT donate to Skins's island:

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IdaBriggs  (1000+ posts)        Sun Aug-23-09 06:41 PM
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"Who would Jesus deny Health Care to?"

Thanks to the person who came up with this line - I got to use it today at church. Shut the person RIGHT UP who was babbling about not wanting *his* tax dollars to pay for "other people's health care." Then a couple of other folks and I had a discussion about "Sicko" and how companies are using "contractors" who they don't have to provide health insurance for -- engineers, computer professionals, etc. included.

As a positive thing, we did a quick prayer for the leaders of our country, the health care crisis and the economy. I feel like I am making a difference by being the "flaming liberal" who politely won't back down in a roomful of predominantly "Christian Conservatives."

Well, well, well.

Well, well.

Better if the Idiot Briggs primitive asked, "Who would Jesus deny housing to?", given her track record of being a greedy landlady.

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bbinacan  (1000+ posts)      Sun Aug-23-09 06:44 PM
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1. Maybe Pontius Pilate?

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GCP (1000+ posts)      Sun Aug-23-09 06:44 PM
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2. Good for you

Someone should run up a bumper sticker saying that.

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FLDCVADem (269 posts)      Sun Aug-23-09 06:45 PM
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3. Our parish

Had a flyer in the bulletin asking us to call our rep and Senators and ask them to vote against HR 3200 as currently written.

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John Q. Citizen  (1000+ posts)        Sun Aug-23-09 06:48 PM
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4. Good work. Speaking out is very important. It give courage to others to do the same.

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pkdu  (532 posts)       Sun Aug-23-09 06:52 PM
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5. Rush Limbaugh

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berni_mccoy  (1000+ posts)         Sun Aug-23-09 06:53 PM
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6. I'm glad you got some use out of it. I was attacked for bringing that up here

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Re: Idiot Briggs primitive denies
« Reply #1 on: August 23, 2009, 06:28:54 PM »
Jesus would also condemn the slaughter of innocent babies in their mothers womb,argue that one DUmmies.

To answer the specific here Jesus never walked around bestowing His gifts and charity except as a testimony to accept Him as Lord and Saviour.
You DUmmys reject that instantly and in your next breath curse anything Christian so spare me the Bible lesson unless you are willing to submit to what the Word says.
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Re: Idiot Briggs primitive denies
« Reply #2 on: August 23, 2009, 07:05:47 PM »
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IdaBriggs  (1000+ posts)        Sun Aug-23-09 06:41 PM
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"Who would Jesus deny Health Care to?"

Thanks to the person who came up with this line - I got to use it today at church. Shut the person RIGHT UP who was babbling about not wanting *his* tax dollars to pay for "other people's health care." Then a couple of other folks and I had a discussion about "Sicko" and how companies are using "contractors" who they don't have to provide health insurance for -- engineers, computer professionals, etc. included.

As a positive thing, we did a quick prayer for the leaders of our country, the health care crisis and the economy. I feel like I am making a difference by being the "flaming liberal" who politely won't back down in a roomful of predominantly "Christian Conservatives."

Who would Jesus deny health care to? That's a very good question. Let's think back on life of Jesus. Did He ever once demand or even suggest that the government should provide any thing (health care or otherwise) to any one? As far as I know the answer is no. Every thing that He did was at the individual level and NOT at the government level.
When He instructed His 12 disciples He told them to "(Mat 10:8) Heal the sick, cleanse the lepers, raise the dead, cast out devils: freely ye have received, freely give."

Strange...He didn't tell the disciples to go out and demand that the government take money from others to heal the sick, cleanse the lepers, etc. He told them as INDIVIDUALS to do it.

Wait...I guess that wouldn't answer the question like you would have liked.
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Re: Idiot Briggs primitive denies
« Reply #3 on: August 23, 2009, 07:32:04 PM »
Quote from: ChuckJ on August 23, 2009, 07:05:47 PM
When He instructed His 12 disciples He told them to "(Mat 10:8) Heal the sick, cleanse the lepers, raise the dead, cast out devils: freely ye have received, freely give."

I suppose it's the "freely" part of it they have a problem with.  If they can't rule by government edict, then it just isn't fair.
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Re: Idiot Briggs primitive denies
« Reply #4 on: August 23, 2009, 07:33:40 PM »
Quote from: ChuckJ on August 23, 2009, 07:05:47 PM
Who would Jesus deny health care to? That's a very good question. Let's think back on life of Jesus. Did He ever once demand or even suggest that the government should provide any thing (health care or otherwise) to any one? As far as I know the answer is no. Every thing that He did was at the individual level and NOT at the government level.

Bingo!  You nailed it.  Trying to enjoin Jesus not denying healthcare and Christians being wrong if they opposed gov't run healthcare just won't work on people who know how to properly discern the scriptures, something the Idiot Briggs primitive does not know how to do.

Also, the reason Jesus healed was to demonstrate that he was of God.  Sure, what he was doing was compassionate, but it served the purpose of proving that Jesus was the Son of God.  Jesus also fed 4,000+ and 5,000+, but he at one point turned away the multitude because they were only following Him for the sake of physical food, and not the spiritual food of which was His purpose for coming.

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Re: Idiot Briggs primitive denies
« Reply #5 on: August 24, 2009, 08:40:44 AM »
I don't recall that He actually did a Hell of a lot personally for anyone who wasn't a Hebrew.  Not that I pretend to any great degree of Biblical scholarship, of course.
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Re: Idiot Briggs primitive denies
« Reply #6 on: August 24, 2009, 09:08:01 AM »
"... by being the "flaming liberal" who politely won't back down in a roomful of predominantly "Christian Conservatives.""

The only reason lightning didn't strike her for that lie is, she was in a room full of predominately "Christian Conservatives".
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Re: Idiot Briggs primitive denies
« Reply #7 on: August 24, 2009, 09:41:54 AM »
Jesus tossed the money changers out of the Temple, thus challenging the governmental control of religion. You had to use only the money and offerings that were clean in the Temple, thus the policy of money changers outside the whorship place changing money for a rate. This also offered a kickback to the priests to allow some poeple and not others to take part in this highly profitable action.
Thus, Jesus was against the Israeli government 'taxing' the people in order to whorship God. His views on the Roman Government were equally clear- Give Ceaser what is Ceaser's. The Roman taxes were paid in Roman money and therefor not a concern of Gods...

Saying Jesus wanted helthcare for everyone is full of misunderstanding. Jesus heald the sick through faith, as he said, not through government programs. Jesus told the parable of the good Sameritan as an example to show people to help those in need, not wait for the government to do so. Paying a tax to the government to then use to help the poor was not what Jesus meant. Jesus meant for us to go and help those in need with our own two hands- through offerings at church, volunteering at various missions, and living a generous life.

DUmpmonkiez do not understand the concept of giving, thus Heaven will be without dirty smelly hippies.

Camels and needles, folks.
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Re: Idiot Briggs primitive denies
« Reply #8 on: August 24, 2009, 01:54:22 PM »
Quote from: USA4ME on August 23, 2009, 07:33:40 PM
Bingo!  You nailed it.  Trying to enjoin Jesus not denying healthcare and Christians being wrong if they opposed gov't run healthcare just won't work on people who know how to properly discern the scriptures, something the Idiot Briggs primitive does not know how to do.

Also, the reason Jesus healed was to demonstrate that he was of God.  Sure, what he was doing was compassionate, but it served the purpose of proving that Jesus was the Son of God.  Jesus also fed 4,000+ and 5,000+, but he at one point turned away the multitude because they were only following Him for the sake of physical food, and not the spiritual food of which was His purpose for coming.

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Wonder what their DU names were.
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Re: Idiot Briggs primitive denies
« Reply #9 on: August 24, 2009, 02:08:24 PM »
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IdaBriggs  (1000+ posts)        Sun Aug-23-09 06:41 PM
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"Who would Jesus deny Health Care to?"

Thanks to the person who came up with this line - I got to use it today at church. Shut the person RIGHT UP who was babbling about not wanting *his* tax dollars to pay for "other people's health care."

I probably wouldn't have said anything either. No point in arguing with an idiot who has no idea what she's talking about. I know there's that whole "render unto Caeser" thing but I don't remember Caeser using said taxes on health care. Bet most of their taxes went to fund the Roman Industrial Military Complex.

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Re: Idiot Briggs primitive denies
« Reply #10 on: August 24, 2009, 05:30:29 PM »
Would Jesus have demanded that I provide healthcare for another ?
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