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I've been taken by surprise and I don't think I'm the only one
« on: August 18, 2009, 08:32:01 AM »
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tavalon  Donating Member  (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author  Click to view this author's profile  Click to add this author to your buddy list  Click to add this author to your Ignore list  Donate to DU!      Tue Aug-18-09 06:48 AM
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I've been taken by surprise and I don't think I'm the only one
   
I have over the years begun to believe that most political power is wielded in back rooms and that We The People have very little say one way or the other. I still mostly believe this, but this last election took me by surprise. Obama, while not himself a liberal populist, awoke the sleeping giant, the We The People and he and his party "benefited" greatly. Why did I put that in quotes? Well, see, that's the surprise, for me and for a good many a Dem power broker, that We The People actually do still have some power.

This brings up a big ol' problem for our team, call it Team Democrat. Because, in actuality, they primarily serve themselves and their highest donors, just like Team Republican. But Team Republican can fool their base into thinking they are being served. The Democratic base doesn't appear to be that easily duped. Now, when Team Democrat was in the minority, it was easy for them. They could throw up their hands, look at us beseechingly and say, "What can we do? Please send more money and keep voting for us. Someday.......". Well, in a groundswell of populist rage and hope, we gave them their Someday but now, it's harder for them to convince us that they really are working for us. Reference the ever higher bar that Harry Reid assures us is needed so that the change they really, really want to give us will happen. Notice the test balloons from the White House that keep getting shot down.

Our poor Team Democrat is a bit befuddled and more than a little nervous. Obama told us we had power, we believed him, and damn, he was right! Now, nobody is exactly sure how much power We The People really do have and just how uncomfortable that is going to make it for Team Democrat. Are they going to be able to remove the public option and make it seem like there was just no choice and if they do, what kind of power will We The People choose to wield? Are they actually going to have to do our bidding on this and heaven forbid, other things?

Not that I would ever want to be him, but I especially wouldn't want to be Rahm right now. I suspect he isn't sleeping all that well and is downing a ton of Tums and wishing his boss had never unleashed We The People.

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1. Doesn't matter, We the People are going to be trumped by Corporate America
   
Doesn't matter what We the People want, it only matters that Corporate Money, the ones who are rigging this came, get their wishes fulfilled. After all, the common wisdom is "who you going to vote for, the 'Pugs? Har har, hardee har har!"

We need to have We the People that we can truly call the tune. Until then, this shell game of We the People is going to be proven empty time and again.

Actually we the people are killing this horrible health care bill that Obama is trying to sell us. They already have pulled the "death panels" from the senate version. If we keep pushing this thing is gonna die.

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6. It was a delusion to believe Obama was really the "change" candidate
   
All that really changed was the letter after the name.

He is another lying scumbag politician and I knew it from the beginning. So I am not surprised. I know a lot of people had their illusions shattered because they believed all that tripe but I never liked him from the get-go and knew he was just another corporate tool who would betray the liberals sooner or later like all Democrats do.
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Re: I've been taken by surprise and I don't think I'm the only one
« Reply #1 on: August 18, 2009, 08:35:51 AM »
Oops, Ms Alarimer had best be changing that tone if she doesn't want to be voted off the Island after being there since 2001.  The mob hasn't caught up with her yet, but it's early.
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Re: I've been taken by surprise and I don't think I'm the only one
« Reply #2 on: August 18, 2009, 08:42:48 AM »
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Re: I've been taken by surprise and I don't think I'm the only one
« Reply #3 on: August 18, 2009, 08:47:30 AM »
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The Democratic base doesn't appear to be that easily duped.

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Your entire screed was just that, you showing how you were duped. Eat cake, you f'n prole.
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Re: I've been taken by surprise and I don't think I'm the only one
« Reply #4 on: August 18, 2009, 08:59:20 AM »
Quote from: Rebel on August 18, 2009, 08:47:30 AM
:lmao:

Your entire screed was just that, you showing how you were duped. Eat cake, you f'n prole.

Just say hope n change repeatedly and you can dupe them.  :-)
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Re: I've been taken by surprise and I don't think I'm the only one
« Reply #5 on: August 18, 2009, 10:17:54 AM »
I'll type slow so any DUchebags can understand the following.

1. Obumbelr had a completely in the tank media, COMPLETELY. In 2004 the head of CBS said that the MSM bias to Kerry would give him 16 points. Got to figure they worked on giving the One 20.

2. Obumbler had almost TEN TIMES more money to spend than McCain.

3. ACORN and voter fraud in every major city.

4. Many conservatives did not vote because the republicans put out such a terrible candidate.

5. 52/48 with the above does not impress me at all and clearly is NO MANDATE no matter how much you say it is.


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Re: I've been taken by surprise and I don't think I'm the only one
« Reply #6 on: August 18, 2009, 10:21:29 AM »
One part of me wants the Dems in office to continue to push as hard as they can for Socialism, in ALL aspects. It should kill off the Democrat party forever. Their true colors are shining through to average Americans. By average, I don't mean those of us that follow politics as a hobby, I mean the average person out there that normally just doesn't give a damn.
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Re: I've been taken by surprise and I don't think I'm the only one
« Reply #7 on: August 18, 2009, 10:46:02 AM »
You go right ahead and keep thinking "we" are easily duped. Denial makes your losses sweeter!

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