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Re: HBO's miniseries John Adams
« Reply #50 on: March 24, 2008, 02:55:49 PM »
Well I loved it. I was sad that I have to wait another week for the next part.

I was hoping they would get it "right" in terms of historical accuracy and that they would properly explore every detail. So much can fall victim to editing and time. I really need to brush up on Adams though.
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Re: HBO's miniseries John Adams
« Reply #51 on: March 24, 2008, 03:11:15 PM »
Quote from: DixieBelle on March 24, 2008, 02:55:49 PM
Well I loved it. I was sad that I have to wait another week for the next part.

I was hoping they would get it "right" in terms of historical accuracy and that they would properly explore every detail. So much can fall victim to editing and time. I really need to brush up on Adams though.

Me too, I can't wait, either  :hyper:

They really could have done this up right and made it much longer than just 7 episodes.
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Re: HBO's miniseries John Adams
« Reply #52 on: March 24, 2008, 03:15:21 PM »
^That's what I kept thinking. I also kept hoping that it would do so well that they would produce other similar shows.
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Re: HBO's miniseries John Adams
« Reply #53 on: March 24, 2008, 09:21:51 PM »
I missed half of it.  Our TV is broken and we don't get the new one until tomorrow.  I was shocked at what a douche Ben Franklin was made to look like.  I have no idea if he was like that in real life.  Also, the French!!!!!!!!  What the hell was/is wrong with them?  Did they not know how retarded they all looked and acted?  I love Abigail Adams and want to read so much more about her! 

I am going to rewatch it tomorrow when I can actually see the show.

P.S. Which is bigger, John Adams balls in France or the width of the Grand Canyon?  Discuss.......
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Re: HBO's miniseries John Adams
« Reply #54 on: March 24, 2008, 09:30:59 PM »
Some of that came from the book.  McCullough portrays Franklin as an "honorary" ambassador to France.   I think he was pretty old at the time and didn't do much while he was there.
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Re: HBO's miniseries John Adams
« Reply #55 on: March 25, 2008, 09:37:19 AM »
An inlaw was talking it up at Easter dinner so I downloaded the first 3 episodes.  I'll watch them on the train this week.  I hear it's great too.
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Re: HBO's miniseries John Adams
« Reply #56 on: March 25, 2008, 10:18:45 AM »
Quote from: mamacags on March 24, 2008, 09:21:51 PM
Also, the French!!!!!!!!  What the hell was/is wrong with them? 

Um, they're French?

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Re: HBO's miniseries John Adams
« Reply #57 on: March 25, 2008, 10:35:15 AM »
I think we'd be shocked to learn how human (and full of faults) our Founding Fathers really were. We're so accustomed to what our schoolbooks tell us. And even bios we read on our own. You really have to dig and read multiple sources. Ben Franklin was a scamp!! A brilliant man, but a scamp nonetheless.
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Re: HBO's miniseries John Adams
« Reply #58 on: March 25, 2008, 10:47:07 AM »
Quote from: DixieBelle on March 25, 2008, 10:35:15 AM
I think we'd be shocked to learn how human (and full of faults) our Founding Fathers really were. We're so accustomed to what our schoolbooks tell us. And even bios we read on our own. You really have to dig and read multiple sources. Ben Franklin was a scamp!! A brilliant man, but a scamp nonetheless.

no kidding.  the way he discovered electricity had nothing to do with a kite.  :wink:

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Re: HBO's miniseries John Adams
« Reply #59 on: March 25, 2008, 03:39:08 PM »
Quote from: Full-Auto on March 25, 2008, 09:37:19 AM
An inlaw was talking it up at Easter dinner so I downloaded the first 3 episodes.  I'll watch them on the train this week.  I hear it's great too.

OMG, watching this on a train really might make you :puke:

Be prepared  :-)
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Re: HBO's miniseries John Adams
« Reply #60 on: March 25, 2008, 03:49:41 PM »
Quote from: mamacags on March 24, 2008, 09:21:51 PM

P.S. Which is bigger, John Adams balls in France or the width of the Grand Canyon?  Discuss.......

 :rotf:

I thought he was great, although that won't get you want from someone...when you are at their mercy, but I still loved how he dealt with them, all the same.

At the beginning of the show when JA is breaking the news to his wife that he has to go to France, Abigail tells him that this is Franklin's deal to be handling. So Congress sent JA there, to get it done, because Franklin wasn't cutting the mustard.  His foul mood was already set off by Franklin himself...who was there just lapping everything there up. I guess that was JA under a lot of pressure...pressure from his wife to not leave her, pressure from having his son there with him, annoyed from making that long trip on that festering ship, only to be told whimsically by Franklin upon his arrival that there was a  treaty, only to find out that the "treaty" served France more than it did America...and replaced Britain's strongarm on America for themselves. Then on top of all that, Franklin was sleeping with their whores and encouraging him to do the same, and he wanted NO part of that. He was on a mission to serve his country and that was that. I guess we got to see JA pissed off. I can sure see why. Now that France is what it is, it just made me laugh...and King Louis was quite the smarmy little  :censored: too, now wasn't he?

In this last episode, we got to see more of JA's and BF's failings.
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Re: HBO's miniseries John Adams
« Reply #61 on: March 30, 2008, 07:49:34 PM »
episode 4 (I think) is on HBO in 10 minutes.


on edit:
john and abigail reunite in paris;  adams goes to london as america's first
minister to britain; john must deal with family concerns upon his return to
boston.
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Re: HBO's miniseries John Adams
« Reply #62 on: March 30, 2008, 08:08:12 PM »
Quote from: Chris on March 16, 2008, 10:10:02 PM
I heard an interview with the director on the radio today.  Paul Giamatti is John Adams.

Or, you could just read the book.  :-)

I am turning into quite a Paul Giamttie fan of late... even the stupid stuff he has done, he's just very gifted with timing.

Anyway, I will read the thread but where can people see it who dont have HBO? I'm assuming it will come out in DVD format soon?

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Re: HBO's miniseries John Adams
« Reply #63 on: March 30, 2008, 08:10:52 PM »
Quote from: ACrazyConservative on March 16, 2008, 10:24:34 PM
Well, if it ever arrives to dvd, I might get it.  So far, I've heard a few raves from some friends.

John Adams is an ancestor on my maternal grandmother's side.  :)

that's cool ACC! i am a daughter of the revolution, a DAR but i dont really know what it means.. :-)

and Ive heard only good reviews of it so far... the DUmmies have a thread over there about "is this historically accurrate? [cause if so, we are on the wrong side!}

the whole thread was "its a bunch of racist shit.." and "they wouldnt know the truth if it bit them on their stupid racist asses..." and so on.. they really think its all untrue.

the author of the book said it was a great movie and very true to the book.. maybe the book would indeed be better. hmm... choices, choices..  :popcorn:
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Re: HBO's miniseries John Adams
« Reply #64 on: March 30, 2008, 08:13:46 PM »
Quote from: Lauri on March 30, 2008, 08:08:12 PM
Quote from: Chris on March 16, 2008, 10:10:02 PM
I heard an interview with the director on the radio today.  Paul Giamatti is John Adams.

Or, you could just read the book.  :-)

I am turning into quite a Paul Giamttie fan of late... even the stupid stuff he has done, he's just very gifted with timing.

Anyway, I will read the thread but where can people see it who dont have HBO? I'm assuming it will come out in DVD format soon?



I assume that sooner or later, something will be available here.  and giamatti will always be the merlot guy to me.
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Re: HBO's miniseries John Adams
« Reply #65 on: March 30, 2008, 08:17:28 PM »
Quote from: Lauri on March 30, 2008, 08:10:52 PM
Quote from: ACrazyConservative on March 16, 2008, 10:24:34 PM
Well, if it ever arrives to dvd, I might get it.  So far, I've heard a few raves from some friends.

John Adams is an ancestor on my maternal grandmother's side.  :)

that's cool ACC! i am a daughter of the revolution, a DAR but i dont really know what it means.. :-)

and Ive heard only good reviews of it so far... the DUmmies have a thread over there about "is this historically accurrate? [cause if so, we are on the wrong side!}

the whole thread was "its a bunch of racist shit.." and "they wouldnt know the truth if it bit them on their stupid racist asses..." and so on.. they really think its all untrue.

the author of the book said it was a great movie and very true to the book.. maybe the book would indeed be better. hmm... choices, choices..  :popcorn:

there is a "making of john adams" on HBO as well, and in it, mccullough literally raves about the series;  especially about it's historical accuracy and fidelity to the book.

I haven't seen the DUmmie thread;  I will have to look that one up. :-)
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Re: HBO's miniseries John Adams
« Reply #66 on: March 30, 2008, 08:24:57 PM »
Quote from: Wretched Excess on March 30, 2008, 08:13:46 PM
Quote from: Lauri on March 30, 2008, 08:08:12 PM
Quote from: Chris on March 16, 2008, 10:10:02 PM
I heard an interview with the director on the radio today.  Paul Giamatti is John Adams.

Or, you could just read the book.  :-)

I am turning into quite a Paul Giamttie fan of late... even the stupid stuff he has done, he's just very gifted with timing.

Anyway, I will read the thread but where can people see it who dont have HBO? I'm assuming it will come out in DVD format soon?



I assume that sooner or later, something will be available here.  and giamatti will always be the merlot guy to me.

best.movie.ever.  :popcorn:  <-- me watching Paul Giametti ..
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Re: HBO's miniseries John Adams
« Reply #67 on: March 30, 2008, 08:26:12 PM »
Quote from: Wretched Excess on March 30, 2008, 08:17:28 PM
Quote from: Lauri on March 30, 2008, 08:10:52 PM
Quote from: ACrazyConservative on March 16, 2008, 10:24:34 PM
Well, if it ever arrives to dvd, I might get it.  So far, I've heard a few raves from some friends.

John Adams is an ancestor on my maternal grandmother's side.  :)

that's cool ACC! i am a daughter of the revolution, a DAR but i dont really know what it means.. :-)

and Ive heard only good reviews of it so far... the DUmmies have a thread over there about "is this historically accurrate? [cause if so, we are on the wrong side!}

the whole thread was "its a bunch of racist shit.." and "they wouldnt know the truth if it bit them on their stupid racist asses..." and so on.. they really think its all untrue.

the author of the book said it was a great movie and very true to the book.. maybe the book would indeed be better. hmm... choices, choices..  :popcorn:

there is a "making of john adams" on HBO as well, and in it, mccullough literally raves about the series;  especially about it's historical accuracy and fidelity to the book.

I haven't seen the DUmmie thread;  I will have to look that one up. :-)

i was surfing around last night.. that one popped up right away cause i really want to see the series, but had no idea the DUmmies even paid attention to actual truthful stuff.

who knew?  :-)
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Re: HBO's miniseries John Adams
« Reply #68 on: March 30, 2008, 08:29:18 PM »
Quote from: Lauri on March 30, 2008, 08:24:57 PM
Quote from: Wretched Excess on March 30, 2008, 08:13:46 PM
Quote from: Lauri on March 30, 2008, 08:08:12 PM
Quote from: Chris on March 16, 2008, 10:10:02 PM
I heard an interview with the director on the radio today.  Paul Giamatti is John Adams.

Or, you could just read the book.  :-)

I am turning into quite a Paul Giamttie fan of late... even the stupid stuff he has done, he's just very gifted with timing.

Anyway, I will read the thread but where can people see it who dont have HBO? I'm assuming it will come out in DVD format soon?



I assume that sooner or later, something will be available here.  and giamatti will always be the merlot guy to me.

best.movie.ever.  :popcorn:  <-- me watching Paul Giametti ..

that move left me . . . I dunno . . . unsettled, I guess?  the guy's life was just such a disaster.  although the wallet scene and the wrecking the car scene were hilarious.
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Re: HBO's miniseries John Adams
« Reply #69 on: March 30, 2008, 08:35:37 PM »
Quote from: Lauri on March 30, 2008, 08:08:12 PM
Quote from: Chris on March 16, 2008, 10:10:02 PM
I heard an interview with the director on the radio today.  Paul Giamatti is John Adams.

Or, you could just read the book.  :-)

I am turning into quite a Paul Giamttie fan of late... even the stupid stuff he has done, he's just very gifted with timing.

Anyway, I will read the thread but where can people see it who dont have HBO? I'm assuming it will come out in DVD format soon?



it is available for purchase now.  I found it here, but it doesn't appear to be available for shipment until june 10 . . . after the broadcast of the miniseries has concluded, I assume.


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Re: HBO's miniseries John Adams
« Reply #70 on: March 30, 2008, 08:36:55 PM »
Quote from: Lauri on March 30, 2008, 08:26:12 PM
Quote from: Wretched Excess on March 30, 2008, 08:17:28 PM
Quote from: Lauri on March 30, 2008, 08:10:52 PM
Quote from: ACrazyConservative on March 16, 2008, 10:24:34 PM
Well, if it ever arrives to dvd, I might get it.  So far, I've heard a few raves from some friends.

John Adams is an ancestor on my maternal grandmother's side.  :)

that's cool ACC! i am a daughter of the revolution, a DAR but i dont really know what it means.. :-)

and Ive heard only good reviews of it so far... the DUmmies have a thread over there about "is this historically accurrate? [cause if so, we are on the wrong side!}

the whole thread was "its a bunch of racist shit.." and "they wouldnt know the truth if it bit them on their stupid racist asses..." and so on.. they really think its all untrue.

the author of the book said it was a great movie and very true to the book.. maybe the book would indeed be better. hmm... choices, choices..  :popcorn:

there is a "making of john adams" on HBO as well, and in it, mccullough literally raves about the series;  especially about it's historical accuracy and fidelity to the book.

I haven't seen the DUmmie thread;  I will have to look that one up. :-)

i was surfing around last night.. that one popped up right away cause i really want to see the series, but had no idea the DUmmies even paid attention to actual truthful stuff.

who knew?  :-)

if you find it again, post or PM me the link.  I can't find it in GD or their lounge . . . .
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Re: HBO's miniseries John Adams
« Reply #71 on: March 30, 2008, 08:37:10 PM »
It's on right now, and I haven't started watching it yet...and The Tudors are also on now too..I have choices, woo hoo!!!!!!
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Re: HBO's miniseries John Adams
« Reply #72 on: March 30, 2008, 08:47:39 PM »
Quote from: LadyLiberty on March 30, 2008, 08:37:10 PM
It's on right now, and I haven't started watching it yet...and The Tudors are also on now too..I have choices, woo hoo!!!!!!

I watched the tudors before the adams thing came on.  are the new episodes on yet?  the one I saw was where henry and ann were doing it in the forest (sort of.  what a cruel chick :-)), and woolsey cuts his own throat. 

 
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Re: HBO's miniseries John Adams
« Reply #73 on: March 30, 2008, 09:12:54 PM »
Very touching episode.  I love the way the founding fathers are portrayed realistically with their warts and all.  I just spent 30 mins trying to figure out who was playing King George III (Tom Hollander in case you are interested).  That whole meeting just freaked me out.  I wanted to pimp smack England for having such stupid rules when dealing with royalty.  I love this series!
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Re: HBO's miniseries John Adams
« Reply #74 on: March 30, 2008, 09:14:06 PM »

i saw a promo for another HBO special after john adams ended;  "recount", about (of course) the 2000 election.

I can tell from the horrible Cruella De Vil look that they gave katherine harris (and the presence
of kevin spacey in the cast :whatever:) that it is going to be a hatchet job on the republicans.

I can't wait. :whatever:
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