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SEIU Starting "Third Party" In NC
« on: April 09, 2010, 04:16:04 PM »
http://theplumline.whorunsgov.com/political-media/its-war-seiu-starting-third-party-in-north-carolina/

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In a shot across the bow of Dems, the labor powerhouse SEIU is starting a new third party in North Carolina that hopes to field its own slate of candidates, part of an effort to make the Democratic Party more reliable on issues important to labor, I’m told.

SEIU officials setting up the new party, called North Carolina First, are currently on the ground collecting signatures to qualify as a state party, SEIU officials tell me, adding that there are around 100 canvassers on the ground right now. The goal: To have the party up and running so candidates can run in this fall’s elections.

It won’t be lost on political observers that three House Dems who voted No on reform are from the state: Heath Shuler, Mike McIntyre, and Larry Kissell.

The new project is an outgrowth of SEIU’s earlier vow to hold House Dems accountable for voting against heatlh reform and against labor’s interests in general. That said, presuming the party qualifies at all, it remains to be seen how much clout it will wield.

For instance, it’s unclear which districts the party might field a candidate in, and what the criteria for picking those districts will be. A lot of these things will be determined by availability of candidates and other local political concerns.

It’s also unclear what kind of cash SEIU national will put into this effort — which will also include SEANC, the state employees’ union — and what this will do to relations between labor and the national Dem establishment. But this challenge appears to be a serious experiment in reshaping the landscape of Democratic politics, and it bears watching.


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Re: SEIU Starting "Third Party" In NC
« Reply #1 on: April 09, 2010, 04:35:25 PM »
A cautionary tale for those who would do the same to the GOP.

I don't want the Tea Party fielding candidates outside the GOP I want them to have a bloc that creates a gravity that pulls candidates towards principled constitutional constraints.
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Re: SEIU Starting "Third Party" In NC
« Reply #2 on: April 09, 2010, 04:46:17 PM »
A cautionary tale for those who would do the same to the GOP.

I don't want the Tea Party fielding candidates outside the GOP I want them to have a bloc that creates a gravity that pulls candidates towards principled constitutional constraints.

Based on everything that I've heard from our TEA party group here in KC.....that is their intent.......they have no desire to form a "third party" as they are well aware of the pitfalls of that.........many still remember Ross Perot......

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Re: SEIU Starting "Third Party" In NC
« Reply #3 on: April 09, 2010, 07:09:19 PM »
"North Carolina First -- Vote For Us, Or Else!"

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Re: SEIU Starting "Third Party" In NC
« Reply #4 on: April 09, 2010, 08:20:56 PM »
What a great idea SEIU, you should do this in all states!

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Re: SEIU Starting "Third Party" In NC
« Reply #5 on: April 09, 2010, 10:19:30 PM »
Based on everything that I've heard from our TEA party group here in KC.....that is their intent.......they have no desire to form a "third party" as they are well aware of the pitfalls of that.........many still remember Ross Perot......

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We had some d-bag in Las Vegas run for Senate under the Tea Party name.  His name is Scott Ashjian.  He's a fraud.  The Tea Party told him they want NOTHING to do with this guy.  They didn't even want him at the Showdown in Searchlight.  Not sure if he showed up or not.  If he did, he definitely wasn't allowed around the microphone.
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Re: SEIU Starting "Third Party" In NC
« Reply #6 on: April 10, 2010, 05:19:09 AM »
Let me get this straight.
To punish democrats, a liberal labor union is going to split the democrat vote and ensure conservatives win?
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Re: SEIU Starting "Third Party" In NC
« Reply #7 on: April 10, 2010, 07:38:06 AM »
Now if we could just get rid of Walter B. Jones Jr.
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Re: SEIU Starting "Third Party" In NC
« Reply #8 on: April 10, 2010, 07:40:45 AM »
Let me get this straight.
To punish democrats, a liberal labor union is going to split the democrat vote and ensure conservatives win?
ha!
Nobody ever said they were a smart liberal labor union. 
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Re: SEIU Starting "Third Party" In NC
« Reply #9 on: April 10, 2010, 06:27:54 PM »
Nobody ever said they were a smart liberal labor union. 

Couple of things . . .

1)  "If you don't do what we want, we'll cause you to lose!"

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Re: SEIU Starting "Third Party" In NC
« Reply #10 on: April 10, 2010, 07:32:23 PM »
We had some d-bag in Las Vegas run for Senate under the Tea Party name.  His name is Scott Ashjian.  He's a fraud.  The Tea Party told him they want NOTHING to do with this guy.  They didn't even want him at the Showdown in Searchlight.  Not sure if he showed up or not.  If he did, he definitely wasn't allowed around the microphone.

I thought his check bounced or something

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Re: SEIU Starting "Third Party" In NC
« Reply #11 on: April 11, 2010, 02:39:26 AM »
A cautionary tale for those who would do the same to the GOP.

I don't want the Tea Party fielding candidates outside the GOP I want them to have a bloc that creates a gravity that pulls candidates towards principled constitutional constraints.

Excellent point. Couldn't have said it better myself.
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Re: SEIU Starting "Third Party" In NC
« Reply #12 on: April 11, 2010, 08:35:18 AM »
Couple of things . . .

1)  "If you don't do what we want, we'll cause you to lose!"

2)  How've you been, Dave?  Long time, no see! :hi5: :cheersmate:
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« Reply #13 on: April 11, 2010, 08:42:59 AM »
Doin' good.  You?  :)

I'm able to stand and take nourishment (read--decently).  My daughter is turning into quite the loquacious little girl . . .
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« Reply #14 on: April 11, 2010, 02:28:23 PM »
I'm able to stand and take nourishment (read--decently).  My daughter is turning into quite the loquacious little girl . . .
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Re: SEIU Starting "Third Party" In NC
« Reply #15 on: April 12, 2010, 06:06:36 PM »
Nobody ever said they were a smart liberal labor union. 
As an ex-member of their New York union local 1199, I assure you, intelligence is not something they possess....from the delegate level and up...
But I am going to get a schweet pension when I retire from them....that's if they're not bankrupt.