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Offline franksolich

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primitive's brother-in-law wants to move to Khazakhstan
« on: July 29, 2008, 12:40:14 PM »
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Oh my.

A family squabble.

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Ilsa  Donating Member  (1000+ posts) Tue Jul-29-08 12:44 PM
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My sister's husband wants to move to Kazhakstan.
   
He's in the uranium business. I hope my sis doesn't want to go. It is a completely different world over there, and I doubt she could adjust very well at all. She has personal health issues that affect her social abilities. (She is over 50, talks constantly, poor sensibilities, etc, like she is manic or something.)

I'm hoping that they either divorce or come to an agreement about him living over there while she stays in the US.

Anyone have any experience with Kazhakstan?

Oh my.

Isn't Khazakhstan one of those socialist paradises of the workers and peasants with free medical care for all?  Wouldn't the sister get better medical treatment there, than here? 

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YOY  Donating Member  (1000+ posts) Tue Jul-29-08 12:46 PM
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2. I had a friend who did his PC there and another who did USAID work there.
   
They're in some anti-west fit right now...no physical just legal and social. Not a good idea.

Kind of "assbackwards and sliding further downhill socially/economically." as the one put it.

Borat wasn't too far off...

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Lars39  (1000+ posts) Tue Jul-29-08 12:52 PM
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6. Anti-west fit?
   
yikes. Met a guy yesterday who just joined the Peace Corps. He's leaving in the next few weeks. Red headed as could be.

There's red-headed Khazhakhs.  I know.  I saw some.  In real life.

He could blend right in; red-heads are no more rarer there, than here.

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BrotherBuzz  (1000+ posts) Tue Jul-29-08 12:51 PM
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4. Well, Kazakhstan is not Uzbekistan
   
Kazakhstan fries a lot of food in oil, not people.

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FloridaJudy  Donating Member  (1000+ posts) Tue Jul-29-08 12:51 PM
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5. Eastern Europe is NOT a good place for people with health issues
   
I spent a year in the former Yugoslavia, and I can tell you horror stories.

Now wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute.

Aren't we talking about one of those socialist paradises of the workers and peasants with free medical care for all?

Wouldn't it be advantageous for primitives with health issues to move there?

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YOY  Donating Member  (1000+ posts) Tue Jul-29-08 01:11 PM
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7. Kazakhstan is not Eastern Europe. It's Central Asia.
   
I've spent two and a half years in Bulgaria. I'm still kicking.

The former Yugoslavia is generally what I'd like to consider the asshole of Europe.

Oh my.  Maybe I should point this out to some friends of Serbian derivation, to see what they have to say.

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AllieB  Donating Member  (1000+ posts) Tue Jul-29-08 01:30 PM
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11. Depends on where in the former Yugoslavia.
   
Slovenia and Croatia aren't that bad (now). Macedonia is still pretty backward. I haven't been to Serbia and Bosnia since college (late 80s). I really liked Sarajevo, Belgrade not so much.

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DailyGrind51  (654 posts) Tue Jul-29-08 01:24 PM
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8. To go there "cold" without having friends or family already settled there, would be miserable! I was in Turkey about 13 years ago and got very sick. The people were really great and, back then, Americans were still well-liked, but the Turks weren't "family".

I have relatives in Poland, a friend in the Czech Republic, and contacts in Finland, so I would be more inclined to move to one of those places, if I needed to bail-out of this country, (say, in the event that the worst happens and McCain gets elected), but I would need to "have people" already there, where ever "there" is!

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Re: primitive's brother-in-law wants to move to Khazakhstan
« Reply #1 on: July 29, 2008, 01:16:17 PM »
I'd regard it as a welcome and exotic adventure, but the lady involved sounds like very troublesome baggage to take along.
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Re: primitive's brother-in-law wants to move to Khazakhstan
« Reply #2 on: July 29, 2008, 03:39:52 PM »
From my short stay in Kyrgyzstan, I recall that everytime we had to divert an aircraft to Kazahkstan, it created a big stink.  They did not like US Military aircraft in their country at all.  Don't know if that alluded to an Anti-American bias though.

I do know that organized crime in that region is a HUGE problem, and we "dumb" americans are easy targets.  I got to visit downtown Bishkek once while I was there, and we spent several hours in briefings before on area's to avoid, things to watch for, stuff like that.  None of this was regarding terrorism, it was all about the organized crime elements.

Other then that, the area seemed pretty "modern".  Atleast in Bishkek (capitol of Kyrgyzstan) women seemed to have a pretty equal footing to men.  They definitely didn't have much care about decency with the clothes they wore (and when you've been confined to a base for 4 months with nothing but women wearing sweats or DCU's to look at, this was awesome).

I'd say the biggest thing that stuck out to me about their society, was that they missed the Soviet Union.  I didn't nearly get to know the culture well enough to know all the reasons why, but everywhere you looked, you saw remnants of the USSR.  The national museum had about 3/4 of it devoted to the time the country spent as a Soviet satellite.  When you went to the mall, the majority of the stores sold souveneirs from the USSR.  Our guide said that a lot of the people felt a nostalgia for the time that they where part of a global power, instead of a podunk country that most of the world had never heard of.

Going to Kazahkstan will probably be a rewarding experience for this couple.  As long as they do their research first, and they remain mindful that they are no longer in the US, and that things are not the same.
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