Marco Rubio for Prez

[captainmike]

We desperately need to win.  The electoral college map looks tough.  So it's not going to be easy.

Rubio is the most attractive, engaging, positive GOP presidential candidate since . . . Reagan. 

He's conservative.  Maybe not quite as much as Cruz.  But he's conservative.  You can tell when he talks about his family that he loves America.

He scares Hillary--and for good reason.  He will draw some Latino and young voters, and probably some women too, that other GOP candidates can't.

We need to win.  Go Marco.

[Mr Mannn]

Rubio is a proven RINO. He just supported Obama's executive amnesty.
Walker or Cruz is the best man for the job.
We need a conservative in the job, not an establishment republican.

[DumbAss Tanker]

We could do worse than Rubio, but he isn't my favorite pick.  He would be better than Jeb, for whom I'd find it very tough to vote, or that fat bastard Christie, for whom I probably couldn't choke back the vomit long enough to pull the lever.

[obumazombie]

First post by OP is pro Rubio.
I'll be interested to see how this develops.

[AllosaursRus]

Rubio is a proven RINO. He just supported Obama's executive amnesty.
Walker or Cruz is the best man for the job.
We need a conservative in the job, not an establishment republican.

You got it!

Rubio lost me when he started leaning toward amnesty. Cruz has the balls but I doubt he has the votes. Walker is prolly our best bet.

We just have to make sure the ****in' MSM doesn't pick our candidate again! No more Romney's, McCain's, or Bush's! I'm sick and tired of these push overs!

The country is in trouble! I'm hoping it gets back on track while I'm still breathing! Otherwise my children will be living under socialism. Today's generation is completely uninformed! I talk politics to my children and they just roll their eyes. Apparently I made it too easy for them. They truly don't appreciate their liberty and they refuse to understand they're losing it one piece at a time.

[Conservative Libertarian]

Rubio is a proven RINO. He just supported Obama's executive amnesty.
Walker or Cruz is the best man for the job.
We need a conservative in the job, not an establishment republican.

Rubio is no better than Jeb Bush.

[Mr Mannn]

Rubio is no better than Jeb Bush.

You got it. they are birds of a feather. Jeb is worse. He supports everything the democrats do, and just adds an "R" by his name.

[freedumb2003b]

Rubio is no better than Jeb Bush.

Agreed.

I would only vote for Rubio with a gun to my head.  Same as Bush.

I am in for Cruz or Walker.

[AllosaursRus]

Agreed.

I would only vote for Rubio with a gun to my head.  Same as Bush.

I am in for Cruz or Walker.

Hell, I'd even hold my nose and vote for Rand Paul, but I think he has to many of his fathers ideas on foreign policy and the military. The last thing we need right now is a prez that is in favor of hangin' Israel out to dry.

[captainmike]

He's not a RINO.  You can be a moderate on immigration and still be a limited-government conservative.  That's Rubio.

The illegals who are here aren't going to be deported, folks.  Cruz won't do it; neither will Walker.  Get real.  They're going to stay, and eventually they will be citizens.  Sorry, but that's just reality.

We need to win.  Rubio as the nominee is more likely to win than Walker (and way more likely to win than Cruz, who may be unelectable because of his abrasive demeanor).

[thundley4]

Hell, I'd even hold my nose and vote for Rand Paul, but I think he has to many of his fathers ideas on foreign policy and the military. The last thing we need right now is a prez that is in favor of hangin' Israel out to dry.

Rand Paul's idea of foreign policy is to wait until they bring the fight to US soil. No preemptive action needed.

[obumazombie]

Rand Paul's idea of foreign policy is to wait until they bring the fight to US soil. No preemptive action needed.

I don't understand isolationists like he and Pat Buchanan.
Ever since the dawn of the nuclear age isolationism has become an impossibility.

[txradioguy]

He's not a RINO.  You can be a moderate on immigration and still be a limited-government conservative.  That's Rubio.

Ummm no you can't.  Not when your idea of being "moderate is to do merely implement a "lite" version of what the Progressives want to do in regards to immigration

The illegals who are here aren't going to be deported, folks.

Why not?   

Cruz won't do it; neither will Walker.

 

How do you know they won't do it?  Do you have some kind of ESP or a crystal ball that lets you see what will happen during the Presidency of one of those men?

Get real.

Take your own advice.

They're going to stay, and eventually they will be citizens.  Sorry, but that's just reality.

Sounds more like your delusion

We need to win.  Rubio as the nominee is more likely to win than Walker (and way more likely to win than Cruz, who may be unelectable because of his abrasive demeanor).

I'm getting the distinct impression you're some fanboy for American Crossroads who's getting paid to spam Conservative websites with this "Rubio is our only hope" BS.

[txradioguy]

Rand Paul's idea of foreign policy is to wait until they bring the fight to US soil. No preemptive action needed.

Which is exactly from his daddy's playbook.

Thanks but no.

[obumazombie]

He's not a RINO.  You can be a moderate on immigration and still be a limited-government conservative.  That's Rubio.

The illegals who are here aren't going to be deported, folks.  Cruz won't do it; neither will Walker.  Get real.  They're going to stay, and eventually they will be citizens.  Sorry, but that's just reality.

We need to win.  Rubio as the nominee is more likely to win than Walker (and way more likely to win than Cruz, who may be unelectable because of his abrasive demeanor).

2nd post on site and the cat is coming out of the bag.
I suspected as much.
We don't even have an introduction.
If you do have any amount of sincerity, maybe you would tell us something about yourself in the way of an introduction.
There's a whole board for just that.

Also, as to your assertion that the illegals aren't going to be deported, I agree with txradioguy.
I don't see any reason why they shouldn't be.
Attrition is the answer to that problem.
Any infraction of the law, gone.
Any failure to have insurance when required, gone.
Any activism, gone.
Any use of welfare services, gone.
The only way I would let any illegal stay in our country is if they keep their heads down, provide their own keep and stay off the radar screen.
A 5 % attrition rate could eliminate them in 20 years or less.

[thundley4]

2nd post on site and the cat is coming out of the bag.
I suspected as much.
We don't even have an introduction.
If you do have any amount of sincerity, maybe you would tell us something about yourself in the way of an introduction.
There's a whole board for just that.

Also, as to your assertion that the illegals aren't going to be deported, I agree with txradioguy.
I don't see any reason why they shouldn't be.
Attrition is the answer to that problem.
Any infraction of the law, gone.
Any failure to have insurance when required, gone.
Any activism, gone.
Any use of welfare services, gone.
The only way I would let any illegal stay in our country is if they keep their heads down, provide their own keep and stay off the radar screen.
A 5 % attrition rate could eliminate them in 20 years or less.

They broke the law by entering the country illegally. Illegals are given too many hearings to allow them to stay. Many try and claim political asylum. BS, if that was the case, they would turn themselves immediately upon reaching US soil.

Implement and enforce huge fines for every illegal employed by private citizens or businesses. No welfare benefits allowed. They would self deport soon enough.

[obumazombie]

They broke the law by entering the country illegally. Illegals are given too many hearings to allow them to stay. Many try and claim political asylum. BS, if that was the case, they would turn themselves immediately upon reaching US soil.

Implement and enforce huge fines for every illegal employed by private citizens or businesses. No welfare benefits allowed. They would self deport soon enough.

I don't disagree with you at all.
Maybe I could amend my bullet point to read...Any contact with any law enforcement as a suspect or perp, gone.

[libertybele]

He's not a RINO.  You can be a moderate on immigration and still be a limited-government conservative.  That's Rubio.

The illegals who are here aren't going to be deported, folks.  Cruz won't do it; neither will Walker.  Get real.  They're going to stay, and eventually they will be citizens.  Sorry, but that's just reality.

We need to win.  Rubio as the nominee is more likely to win than Walker (and way more likely to win than Cruz, who may be unelectable because of his abrasive demeanor).

Cruz's abrasive demeanor?  I don't see that in him at all.  I see him as more electable than Walker or Rubio, because he has been very steadfast in what he says; he hasn't backed down like Walker and Rubio.  In other words; he has incredible integrity.  Do not under estimate him as a candidate.  In addition, he is of Latino heritage.  Cruz is golden in my books.

My definition of a RINO is a Republican that sides with Democrats.  Rubio is accepting of Obama's amnesty.  He was one of the Gang of 8, remember.  He took the Senate seat in Florida promising NO amnesty and he has done just the opposite.  Most recently he has agreed with Obama's executive order on amnesty. In my books he is a RINO. 

To predict what Cruz, or Walker (who hasn't even announced his candidacy) won't do about deportation is rather absurd.  Cruz is the only candidate that has fought back on illegal immigration.  If ever there was a candidate who I believe would find a way to actually detain and deport would be Cruz.  We have existing immigration laws already on the books that need to be implemented. If we take a look back in history;  under Truman nearly 3,000,000 illegals deported and under Eisenhower nearly 2,000,000.  It can be done.  Disallowing all the "perks" to being an illegal and you will see many self-deport.  Toughen current immigration laws and secure the borders and you will see a decrease in illegal immigration.  Detaining and deporting rather than detaining and releasing will make a huge difference. There are things that can be done.  Amnesty in any form, in my opinion, is NOT acceptable.

I cannot support a candidate who has reversed his opinion on such an important issue.  Would I vote for him over a Democrat?  At this point in time probably.  Would I vote for him over Cruz, Walker, Perry or Jindal?  Definitely not.  Probably I'd vote for Paul over him as well.

[Conservative Libertarian]

So far, Cruz is the only one for which I will vote and for the same reasons as posted by Libertybele.

Rubio is the young cutie boy being paraded in front of us by the establishment Republicans (RINOs). Right now, he is only running for VP because the establishment most likely wants him to be Bush's VP. The RINOs have made their choice and have just started to ram it down our throats.

[Eupher]

This is another reason why Rubio is a bad choice.

He's fallen badly into the politically-correct world of most politicians, who try to pander to all and usually wind up pandering to none.

I've maintained for some years now that the queers -- in their never-ending quest to legitimize their lifestyle -- are deliberately distorting and misrepresenting homosexuality, its sources, its causes, and its illness.

It's a chosen lifestyle -- pure and simple. And Rubio doesn't get it. He'd rather pander to the queers and to the middle-of-the-road LIVs who swallow the shit that they're shoveling.

http://onenewsnow.com/perspectives/bryan-fischer/2015/04/20/no-marco-homosexuals-arent-born-that-way?utm_source=OneNewsNow&utm_medium=email&utm_term=16780850&utm_content=906953597946&utm_campaign=19617#.VTVb2NJViko

[libertybele]

This is another reason why Rubio is a bad choice.

He's fallen badly into the politically-correct world of most politicians, who try to pander to all and usually wind up pandering to none.

I've maintained for some years now that the queers -- in their never-ending quest to legitimize their lifestyle -- are deliberately distorting and misrepresenting homosexuality, its sources, its causes, and its illness.

It's a chosen lifestyle -- pure and simple. And Rubio doesn't get it. He'd rather pander to the queers and to the middle-of-the-road LIVs who swallow the shit that they're shoveling.

http://onenewsnow.com/perspectives/bryan-fischer/2015/04/20/no-marco-homosexuals-arent-born-that-way?utm_source=OneNewsNow&utm_medium=email&utm_term=16780850&utm_content=906953597946&utm_campaign=19617#.VTVb2NJViko

Trying to be "politically correct", more "mainstream", "with the times", and whatever else you want to call it has cost us the past to elections.  RINO's will NOT win.  What is needed is for the GOPe to get their act together and demonstrate why conservative principles will work.  Liberalism is all but dead; Obama has taken care of that.  It is up to the conservatives to rally around a true conservative candidate with conservative principles and one who honors the Constitution.  Only then, will this country be restored.  A clear message needs to be sent; either Americans can vote for the continued destruction of America or vote for the restoration of America.