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Offline CC27

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people are trying to simplify the message
« on: January 31, 2025, 07:47:18 AM »
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people are trying to simplify the message



https://www.democraticunderground.com/100219967578


Now that is some first class stupid right there

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Re: people are trying to simplify the message
« Reply #1 on: January 31, 2025, 08:33:59 AM »
In this case, causation does not correlate to your facts in evidence.

A simplistic, stupid, and most importantly FALSE correlation. Which is fitting for the Democrat party.
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Re: people are trying to simplify the message
« Reply #2 on: January 31, 2025, 09:27:15 AM »
1. In a period of just 9 days Trump de-staffed and de-trained the ATCs at Reagan Washington National Airport? I'd ask if DU-Denizens are stooooooopid enough to believe this, but, yes, some/many are.

2. Are DU-folk blaming the ATCs like some Dems and Progs (e.g. Occupoo Democrats on FB) complain that Trump did?

3. A FB Friend who should know better posted Occupoo Democrats' anti-Trump meme, so I found a transcript of his speech, https://singjupost.com/transcript-president-trump-addresses-dc-plane-collision-incident/?singlepage=1  . Here's what Trump said about the cause of the crash:

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We do not know what led to this crash, but we have some very strong opinions and ideas, and I think we’ll probably state those opinions now. Because over the years, I’ve watched as things like this happen, and they say, well, we’re always investigating. And then the investigation 3 years later, they announce it.

We think we have some pretty good ideas, but we’ll find out how this disaster occurred, and we’ll ensure that nothing like this ever happens again. The FAA and the NTSB and the US military will be carrying out a systematic and comprehensive investigation. Our new secretary of transportation, Sean Duffy, his second day on the job when that happened. It’s a rough one. We’ll be working tirelessly.

My emphasis.
If, as anti-Covid-vaxxers claim, https://www.poynter.org/fact-checking/2021/robert-f-kennedy-jr-said-the-covid-19-vaccine-is-the-deadliest-vaccine-ever-made-thats-not-true/ , https://gospelnewsnetwork.org/2021/11/23/covid-shots-are-the-deadliest-vaccines-in-medical-history/ , The Vaccine is deadly, where in the US have Pfizer and Moderna hidden the millions of bodies of those who died of "vaccine injury"? Is reality a Big Pharma Shill?

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Offline BamaMoose

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Re: people are trying to simplify the message
« Reply #3 on: February 01, 2025, 03:37:24 AM »
They are already trying to say the plane crash in Philadelphia was in some way Trump's fault.

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Philly plane crash

heres hoping there was no one on the ground got hurt.

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3. Traitors fault. Two accidents in two days! **** that guy

We never had plane crashes like this with Joe Biden and Secretary Buttigieg

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https://www.democraticunderground.com/100219970830

How Trump changed air traffic safety so dramatically in less than two weeks is anyone's guess.  But they are falling over themselves to blame him.

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Re: people are trying to simplify the message
« Reply #4 on: February 01, 2025, 09:56:48 AM »
In the real world, Trump did not fire the FAA Administrator, at all. In the real world, in December 2024, FAA Administrator Whitaker announced his intent to resign, and he resigned on January 20, 2025.

In the real world, Trump did not freeze the hiring of ATCs (not that it matters to the recent crash, since training takes months, not a couple of days). From https://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/air-traffic-controllers-initially-offered-buyouts-told-leaving-118330627 :

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... An official for the Office for Personnel Management, the U.S. government's human resources arm, said Friday that controllers weren't eligible for the resignation plan or subject to the hiring freeze across much of the rest of federal government.

In the real world, the people Trump fired were the Aviation Security Advisory Committee, not a safety committee. The Aviation Security Advisory Committee is part of DHS, not the FAA. I wonder how many DUmmies lapped up this Too Good to Factcheck lie.

In the real world, the retirement & buyout letter sent to all Federal employees was a voluntary offer, not some sort of "ransom note". Also in the real world, the ATC union advised members not to accept the offer, as it was not clear it applied to them, which (see the quote from the ABC News article above) OPM confirmed it did not. ATCs were not included in Trump's letter.

In sum, every point in that Hate-Trump meme is false and easily factchecked. But because it is Too Good to Factcheck I doubt that any DU-Denizen bothered to Google/Bing/DDG even one. If a Bore of Moderate Brain like me can do it, surely one of the smartest people in the world could do it.

ETA There are just 13 Replies at this point. One reply did mention that Whitaker resigned, but parroted the Prog-narrative that it was under pressure from Bogey-Musk. In the real world, officials resigning at the beginning of a new administration is pretty routine, even if, nominally, they have a multi-year term.
« Last Edit: February 01, 2025, 10:09:08 AM by SVPete »
If, as anti-Covid-vaxxers claim, https://www.poynter.org/fact-checking/2021/robert-f-kennedy-jr-said-the-covid-19-vaccine-is-the-deadliest-vaccine-ever-made-thats-not-true/ , https://gospelnewsnetwork.org/2021/11/23/covid-shots-are-the-deadliest-vaccines-in-medical-history/ , The Vaccine is deadly, where in the US have Pfizer and Moderna hidden the millions of bodies of those who died of "vaccine injury"? Is reality a Big Pharma Shill?

Millions now living should have died. Anti-Covid-Vaxxer ghouls hardest hit.