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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: Crazy Horse on February 06, 2008, 07:35:53 AM
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unhappycamper (1000+ posts) Wed Feb-06-08 07:05 AM
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Next Administration to Call on F-22s
Advertisements [?]Next Administration to Call on F-22s
Mclatchy -Tribune News Service | By Dave Montgomery | February 06, 2008
WASHINGTON - After months of open disagreement between the Air Force and leaders in the Pentagon over the size of the nation's F-22 Raptor fleet, the Bush administration has opted to leave the decision up to the next administration.
As expected, President Bush's $515.4 billion defense budget funds the last 20 F-22s under a multiyear purchasing plan but does not include money to shut down production of the Lockheed Martin fighter plane.
The Pentagon leadership has insisted for months that the production line should be closed after 2011, but Deputy Defense Secretary Gordon England eased away from that position recently by telling members of Congress that the line would stay open to build a few F-22s to replace warplanes destroyed in combat.
The Pentagon had maintained that production should be capped at 183 while Air Force leaders contended that the service needs at least 381 to maintain U.S. air superiority.
In unveiling the defense budget on Monday, Pentagon comptroller Tina Jonas said the Defense Department hasn't changed its view that the fleet should be capped at 183 aircraft. But she added: "I do believe, though, that the next administration will have to make the call on what they want to do ultimately.''
Rest of article at: http://www.military.com/NewsContent/0,13319,161498,00.h...
uhc comment: Psssst. These puppies are $330,000,000 a pop.
DrDan (1000+ posts) Wed Feb-06-08 07:15 AM
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1. they are expensive, but . . . .
we could purchase 21 a month at the current rate of the Iraq war.
Also, sure would like to see the Pentagon be driving these decisions, rather than the politically appointed civilian leaders.
Sherman A1 (1000+ posts) Wed Feb-06-08 07:42 AM
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2. The question in my opinion is
maintain air superiority from whom? Who has an aircraft that can best what we currently fly? Should we continue to develop new technologies.... certainly. Should we buy this aircraft in quantity... I don't think so.
Ahem................quite a few countries ya dumbass
sam sarrha (1000+ posts) Wed Feb-06-08 08:30 AM
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3. the F22 is special.. i worked on it, the Joint Strike Fighter was a rip off, they chose the inferior
plane,.. Should be investigated for RICO Violations, that piece of shit will never fly, and the rest of our planes are really old.
Sure ya did............
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I dunno about the doofus dan primitive.
Also, sure would like to see the Pentagon be driving these decisions, rather than the politically appointed civilian leaders.
There's something to be said of the practicality of this, but what about the primitive notion that the military should be under civilian control?
Another case of the primitives thinking things only halfway through, and then stopping thinking.
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Sherman A1 (1000+ posts) Wed Feb-06-08 07:42 AM
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2. The question in my opinion is
maintain air superiority from whom? Who has an aircraft that can best what we currently fly? Should we continue to develop new technologies.... certainly. Should we buy this aircraft in quantity... I don't think so.
Or we could also sell it to our allies like we do with the F-16...complete idiots over there at the Dump.
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Sherman A1 (1000+ posts) Wed Feb-06-08 07:42 AM
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2. The question in my opinion is
maintain air superiority from whom? Who has an aircraft that can best what we currently fly? Should we continue to develop new technologies.... certainly. Should we buy this aircraft in quantity... I don't think so.
And how do you think we gained that unchallengeable superiority, Jeenyuss?