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Nadin invents a new word, gets flamed
« on: May 31, 2013, 03:12:43 PM »
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On complaints on the media

The latest kerfunkle, as usual, revealed the deep distrust in American media. Yup, it's real. People simply don't like reporters, we are evil (and apparently making six to seven figure incomes). Not just that, we are pampered.

Well, first off journos rarely make that much money. Do some journos make thatt pay? Absolutely, but most reporters do not.

But let's assume you are right...what are you doing to change it? I work in local INDEPENDENT media...and we go after stories that the big boys don't, or won't. Whether those are back country wild fires (this weekend has real potential), or the ever so exciting local boards. These boards are where a lot of decisions that directky affect you are made, even city councils, places that can be snoozers.

Here is the best part...those stories get poor readership. It matters little what you do with writing and photos. They just do not generate interest, and are boring...(which they tend to be, especially when they get technical)

When it is mentioned that this is not cheap, and the jeep does not run on sweet kisses, people turn around and go away. Why? It costs money, but don't bother asking for support. This brings me back to indie media. It exists, it works to bring you another perspective, but reporters are some greedy monsters raking it in...

Why do we worry about the AP spy case? Most AP reporters are not raking it in either. But it is how it will affect the willingness of sources to speak to reporters. It matters litte if this is the Grossmont Unified School Board, or the Julan Fire Board ( talk of local) or national security. I guess we will have to go back to unlit garages at three in the morning, and disposable phones. After all, we really should have the government approve negative stories on the government. Yup, that will really happen...

Now it looks like DOJ is thinking of going back to the rules put in place by the Church Committee after Watergate. I guess those are special rights or something.

Now let me bask in the glory of raking it in...NOT

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1. kerfunkle?

Love the way you include yourself as a journalist. I think the wind turbine threads complete with blades traveling miles and cancer clusters, may have finally turned the tide on that charade for both you, your "editor," and your "publication."

Personally, I haven't seen anybody around here express dislike of (real) reporters or call them greedy monsters. Sounds like made up bullshit to me. Yes there is justified distrust of mainstream media and some of the "stars" that present "news" but including yourself with the serious independent journalists bringing real information to the public, and including them in with the big machine of mainstream media is just inane.

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2. I think it's a cross between a kerfuffle and a carbuncle...

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Kali (33,985 posts)
8. the best I can conclude is this has to be some kind of performance art

sadly, I just don't think so.

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3. Working for free isn't going to help anything. So don't tell yourself it is.

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Neither will getting your facts wrong, which you do regularly.

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5. I'm afraid I don't understand what your post is about.

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Could you clarify? What is your complaint, exactly?

If you have a link to something that prompted this post, that might help.

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7. After working as a full-time paid journalist for over 24 years,

I have never heard any journalist refer to him or herself as a "journo." The term is simply not used. I don't know anyone who uses that term. I've heard other journalists refer to poor journalists as "hacks." I've hear journalists simply use the word "writer" to describe themselves. Other terms are also in use, both positive and negative.

Journo? Never. Maybe the jargon has changed since 2004, when I stopped writing for publications. I doubt it.

I only think that Nadin hasn't responded because all these people are on her "iggy" list.  :lmao:
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Nads on "Journos" - More haters
« Reply #1 on: May 31, 2013, 03:13:56 PM »
Looks like the crazy bald dwarf will have more candidates for her Iggy list.

Maybe she'll go back to Crazy Andreas place

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On complaints on the media
The latest kerfunkle, as usual, revealed the deep distrust in American media. Yup, it's real. People simply don't like reporters, we are evil (and apparently making six to seven figure incomes). Not just that, we are pampered.

Well, first off journos rarely make that much money. Do some journos make thatt pay? Absolutely, but most reporters do not.

But let's assume you are right...what are you doing to change it? I work in local INDEPENDENT media...and we go after stories that the big boys don't, or won't. Whether those are back country wild fires (this weekend has real potential), or the ever so exciting local boards. These boards are where a lot of decisions that directky affect you are made, even city councils, places that can be snoozers.

Here is the best part...those stories get poor readership. It matters little what you do with writing and photos. They just do not generate interest, and are boring...(which they tend to be, especially when they get technical)

When it is mentioned that this is not cheap, and the jeep does not run on sweet kisses, people turn around and go away. Why? It costs money, but don't bother asking for support. This brings me back to indie media. It exists, it works to bring you another perspective, but reporters are some greedy monsters raking it in...

Why do we worry about the AP spy case? Most AP reporters are not raking it in either. But it is how it will affect the willingness of sources to speak to reporters. It matters litte if this is the Grossmont Unified School Board, or the Julan Fire Board ( talk of local) or national security. I guess we will have to go back to unlit garages at three in the morning, and disposable phones. After all, we really should have the government approve negative stories on the government. Yup, that will really happen...

Now it looks like DOJ is thinking of going back to the rules put in place by the Church Committee after Watergate. I guess those are special rights or something.

Now let me bask in the glory of raking it in...NOT



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1. kerfunkle?

Love the way you include yourself as a journalist. I think the wind turbine threads complete with blades traveling miles and cancer clusters, may have finally turned the tide on that charade for both you, your "editor," and your "publication."

Personally, I haven't seen anybody around here express dislike of (real) reporters or call them greedy monsters. Sounds like made up bullshit to me. Yes there is justified distrust of mainstream media and some of the "stars" that present "news" but including yourself with the serious independent journalists bringing real information to the public, and including them in with the big machine of mainstream media is just inane.


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2. I think it's a cross between a kerfuffle and a carbuncle...


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Star Member Kali (33,985 posts)
8. the best I can conclude is this has to be some kind of performance art

sadly, I just don't think so.



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3. Working for free isn't going to help anything. So don't tell yourself it is.

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Neither will getting your facts wrong, which you do regularly.




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5. I'm afraid I don't understand what your post is about.

Last edited Fri May 31, 2013, 03:01 PM USA/ET - Edit history (1)
Could you clarify? What is your complaint, exactly?

If you have a link to something that prompted this post, that might help.



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Star Member Rex (34,791 posts)
6. Why would America trust anyone that makes up bullshit instead of reporting facts?

This thread wins the Irony of the Year award. For many different reasons.

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7. After working as a full-time paid journalist for over 24 years,

I have never heard any journalist refer to him or herself as a "journo." The term is simply not used. I don't know anyone who uses that term. I've heard other journalists refer to poor journalists as "hacks." I've hear journalists simply use the word "writer" to describe themselves. Other terms are also in use, both positive and negative.

Journo? Never. Maybe the jargon has changed since 2004, when I stopped writing for publications. I doubt it.

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9. "...but reporters are some greedy monsters raking it in"

Where was this stated?

There are greedy people in the media like Alex Jones, Glen Beck, Rush and even a few that once were thought of well have jumped the shark like Woodward...but I don't think anyone is knocking legit media or journalist.

Your complaint about low readership of your articles may be routed in the fact they aren't interesting to people outside your area. The other fact is when articles aren't based in reality the readers tune out because they don't trust the said media or journalist.
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Re: Nadin invents a new word, gets flamed
« Reply #2 on: May 31, 2013, 03:16:44 PM »
Sorry ScubaGuy, but I got that posted before you did.  :cheersmate:
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Re: Nadin invents a new word, gets flamed
« Reply #3 on: May 31, 2013, 03:18:29 PM »
Quote from: Ralph Wiggum on May 31, 2013, 03:16:44 PM
Sorry ScubaGuy, but I got that posted before you did.  :cheersmate:

It's all good.

I'm sure my own number of "topics posted" would be a couple thousand higher than it is, if I hadn't been half a minute behind so many others, in posting a campfire.
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Re: Nadin invents a new word, gets flamed
« Reply #4 on: May 31, 2013, 03:25:04 PM »
Quote from: franksolich on May 31, 2013, 03:18:29 PM
It's all good.

I'm sure my own number of "topics posted" would be a couple thousand higher than it is, if I hadn't been half a minute behind so many others, in posting a campfire.

Happens from time to time to all of us, Frank.
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Re: Nadin invents a new word, gets flamed
« Reply #5 on: May 31, 2013, 03:35:04 PM »
I really don't understand why Nadin doesn't post all this at a local forum if she wants to push the rag she works for. I just don't think she's going to last at the DUmp much longer, she's starless with many starred enemies.
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Re: Nadin invents a new word, gets flamed
« Reply #6 on: May 31, 2013, 03:36:36 PM »
I think everyone that replied to that post is already on the iggy list. :rofl:
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Re: Nadin invents a new word, gets flamed
« Reply #7 on: May 31, 2013, 03:38:28 PM »
Too bad the Weekly World News is no longer in print. I bet gnads would have been great out covering the bat boy stories.

Or maybe she is bat boy?
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Re: Nadin invents a new word, gets flamed
« Reply #8 on: May 31, 2013, 03:39:57 PM »
Kerfunkle...I think that's my favorite so far. I know we've got an ongoing list of her various careers (linguist should be one of those) but do we have a "Nadism" dictionary? Some of these are just priceless!

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« Reply #9 on: May 31, 2013, 03:59:39 PM »
And here I thought she was gone to go get some crunchy news now that Eric holder wants to talk to the press but only if it's off the record.
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Re: Nadin invents a new word, gets flamed
« Reply #10 on: May 31, 2013, 04:13:51 PM »
 :rotf: :loser:
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Re: Nadin invents a new word, gets flamed
« Reply #11 on: May 31, 2013, 04:14:43 PM »
Quote from: delilahmused on May 31, 2013, 03:39:57 PM
Kerfunkle...I think that's my favorite so far. I know we've got an ongoing list of her various careers (linguist should be one of those) but do we have a "Nadism" dictionary? Some of these are just priceless!

Cindie

ONE OF MY FAVORITE LOCAL REPORTERS WRITES FOR THE LOCAL PAPER AND SHE WORKS IN THE CRIME DEVISION AND MAKES LESS THEN I DID WORKING IN A FACTORY.  

Sad she went through hell when the police chief got a boner for her and was caught peeping in her windows at night.    The chief resigned and his wife left him but she is still reporting and doing a darn good job of it.

Being a free lance reporter for no pay is far different then a reporter that gets a salary and needs to live on that money in a small town.

Heck you or I could do Nads  "job" with a throw away camera and attend a meeting of the garden club.

Nads job is but a hobby of hers, something to keep her busy when her Hubby is out with the boys getting sauced at a titty bar.
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Re: Nadin invents a new word, gets flamed
« Reply #12 on: May 31, 2013, 04:15:51 PM »
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13. Media who get it wrong are a bigger problem than media who are paid well...

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I think it's great that Sid keeps reminding them about the Jay Polk kerfunkle.
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Re: Nadin invents a new word, gets flamed
« Reply #13 on: May 31, 2013, 05:16:34 PM »
Quote from: Ralph Wiggum on May 31, 2013, 03:16:44 PM
Sorry ScubaGuy, but I got that posted before you did.  :cheersmate:

No problem.  :cheersmate:
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« Reply #14 on: May 31, 2013, 06:23:29 PM »
I was really sad when Simon and Kerfunkle broke up . . .  :(
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« Reply #15 on: May 31, 2013, 06:29:54 PM »
Quote from: Airwolf on May 31, 2013, 03:59:39 PM
And here I thought she was gone to go get some crunchy news now that Eric holder wants to talk to the press but only if it's off the record.

Only "journos" were invited.  And "photogs" were not invited ('nad's OTHER diminutive from later in the thread). 

Some peeps just aren't in the inno like nadso...
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« Reply #16 on: May 31, 2013, 06:39:55 PM »
My poor, poor fellow pretend reporter. I think I'll play her game...

I watched a movie once then gave my opinion of it to a friend - I'm a film critic.
I replaced the windshield wipers on my vehicle - I'm a mechanic.
I put a bandage on a relative's cut - I'm a doctor.
I looked at the clouds and decided it may rain - I'm a meteorologist.
I caught some fish and give them to someone who paid me with a 'thank you' - I'm a professional fisherman.
I've mowed the grass - I'm a landscape specialist.
I've pointed out the constellation Orion to my wife - I'm an astronomer.
I've rowed a boat while fishing - I'm a boat captain.
I've visited native American archeological sites - I'm an archeologist.
I replaced an electrical outlet - I'm an electrician.
I've said that nadin is condescending - I'm a master of the obvious.
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« Reply #17 on: May 31, 2013, 06:45:49 PM »
She wishes she didn't know that shit.
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« Reply #18 on: May 31, 2013, 06:47:29 PM »
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She wishes she didn't know that shit.

Extending Flippy's analyses:

I took a crap the last few nights and they were all different -- I know all kinds of shit..
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« Reply #19 on: May 31, 2013, 07:02:34 PM »
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22. Yeah they are


I know the local photog for AP and Reuters, as well as a coupe reporters.

They love what they do, but

A "coupe reporter"? :???: Like a car?  :???:
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« Reply #20 on: May 31, 2013, 08:00:08 PM »
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34. And the hits just keep on coming.

But we all need a fantasy life of some sort.

And as I'm on the Iggy list, this won't be seen.

One wonders what the gouty primitive, the one with a much-younger and very attractive trophy wife, did to piss off the cousin.
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« Reply #21 on: May 31, 2013, 08:22:41 PM »
Nadin is a double-triple MK-Ultra mind controlled  agent-mole, like Arnold Schwarzenegger in Total Recall.

Nadin, get your ass to Mars! The kerfunkle of your dreams awaits you there.

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« Reply #22 on: May 31, 2013, 09:15:14 PM »
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8. the best I can conclude is this has to be some kind of performance art

sadly, I just don't think so.

That's actually quite funny and sadly true.  It's a made up life.

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My poor, poor fellow pretend reporter. I think I'll play her game...

I watched a movie once then gave my opinion of it to a friend - I'm a film critic.
I replaced the windshield wipers on my vehicle - I'm a mechanic.
I put a bandage on a relative's cut - I'm a doctor.
I looked at the clouds and decided it may rain - I'm a meteorologist.
I caught some fish and give them to someone who paid me with a 'thank you' - I'm a professional fisherman.
I've mowed the grass - I'm a landscape specialist.
I've pointed out the constellation Orion to my wife - I'm an astronomer.
I've rowed a boat while fishing - I'm a boat captain.
I've visited native American archeological sites - I'm an archeologist.
I replaced an electrical outlet - I'm an electrician.
I've said that nadin is condescending - I'm a master of the obvious.

Ba-da bing.......
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Re: Nadin invents a new word, gets flamed
« Reply #23 on: May 31, 2013, 09:16:00 PM »
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let me bask in the glory of raking it in

Sounds like someone asked Crazy Miriam for a little gas money and just got laughter.

Zero pay, and the addled submarine rider has to foot the expenses.

By the way, if you read the DUmp thread to the end, be aware that DUmmy hrmjustin is the nutcase's sockpuppet.
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« Reply #24 on: May 31, 2013, 09:23:39 PM »
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Zero pay, and the addled submarine rider has to foot the expenses.

I still say he doesn't exist.

No one, competent enough to crew subs, could possibly put up with that much stupid.  Not to mention the fugly.
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