Several People Reported Shot at Sikh Temple

[Kyle Ricky]

They still call him a teabagger. Do you think that facts mean anything at DU?

Yeah, you are right there. The only facts they go by are the ones the voices in their heads tell them.

[Freeper]

kestrel91316 (40,336 posts)
69. Mark my words: this is teabaggers who are too stupid to understand the difference

between Indian Sikhs and Middle Eastern Muslims.

They are all just ragheads to the baggers.

 

[BEG]

According to a witness on the news, aparently there was a special visting priest from India onsite today. He was shot.

This was planned and coordinated. I wonder if it was an assassination of the visiting priest.

[Freeper]

O.k This proves just how retarded and pathetic those douchebags are. Wow...  

Found where he posted this before,
http://www.theliberalgunclub.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?p=95671

[Kyle Ricky]

Found where he posted this before,
http://www.theliberalgunclub.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?p=95671

The dude is a totally clueless douchebag. 

[franksolich]

I thought maybe the Presbyterians did it.

You know how crazy Christian "fundamentalists" are.

[Freeper]

I thought maybe the Presbyterians did it.

You know how crazy Christian "fundamentalists" are.

Yeah just last week the Presbyterians beheaded a couple of Baptists in my neighborhood because they wouldn't convert. 

[BEG]

7 dead. 4 inside the Temple and three outside the Tempe (including the shooter). So far only one shooter.

[delilahmused]

Like I said, they will blame the right until they find out, once again, that it was a liberal. At which point, they will shut up and call it a tragedy.

You have NO idea whether this was an attack by the left anymore than they "know" it was an attack from the right. Honestly, it could be an extremist group from another religion. Yes, many of these situations turn out to be leftists but that wasn't the case with Gabby Giffords. Please don't jump to conclusions. We should be smarter than that.

Cindie

[Kyle Ricky]

You have NO idea whether this was an attack by the left anymore than they "know" it was an attack from the right. Honestly, it could be an extremist group from another religion. Yes, many of these situations turn out to be leftists but that wasn't the case with Gabby Giffords. Please don't jump to conclusions. We should be smarter than that.

Cindie

Jared Lee Loughner wasn't a right winger either. And they insisted that he was. My point is that every time something like this happens, the left right away blame the racist right tea party, conservative talk show hosts, and politicians for spewing hate. Then when they find out that the person wasn't associated with the right at all, they shut up and just say that it was a tragedy. That is their game plan. Everything bad that happens is always the rights fault. Hell, even the crap the OWS was doing was being blamed on the right until the left realized that they were full of crap. It is always rushed to judgment that the right is to blame. They never look at themselves and say: "Hey, maybe is our side doing all these shootings and killings". They don't see that because they have in their thick brain dead skulls that they are the most tolerant and caring people on the earth, when in reality, they are the most retarded thugs on earth.

Look here:

Left blames Wisconsin temple shooting on Michele Bachmann and ‘racists like her’

http://twitchy.com/2012/08/05/left-blames-wisconsin-temple-shooting-on-michelle-bachmann-and-racists-like-her/

[obumazombie]

You have NO idea whether this was an attack by the left anymore than they "know" it was an attack from the right. Honestly, it could be an extremist group from another religion. Yes, many of these situations turn out to be leftists but that wasn't the case with Gabby Giffords. Please don't jump to conclusions. We should be smarter than that.

Cindie

The last I heard he was a registered dem.

[Kyle Ricky]

The last I heard he was a registered dem.

I did some research on him tonight and from what I saw, he hated the left and right equally.

[delilahmused]

The last I heard he was a registered dem.

My 93 year old grandmother is a registered dem too...she hasn't voted that way in ages. I know couples where one registers with one party and one registers with the other so they get literature from both. So your point is? Loughner was a crazy **** who had a personal issue with Giffords that had nothing to do with politics. His writings were rambling and incoherent. His brain wasn't capable of political thought. That's pretty much common knowledge now. I understand that the left jumps the gun and blames us for everything. I don't want to play that game. Yes, most of the time it does end up being someone on the left but until we know who they are and what motivates them it would be ever so lovely if we didn't decide they were leftists. This is a little more than a lone gunman. Three people sound more like some kind of extremist group. Sikh's are relatively peaceful and most people are barely aware of them. These guys obviously are. Who is it who has a grudge against Sikhs? I don't hae a clue, do you?

Cindie

[Jasonw560]

Muslims don't like the Sikh in India because they won't convert.

I'm thinking that's what happened here. Fundamental Muslim attacks a Sikh temple.

Besides, if it was a member of the VRWC, we'd know the shooter's name, address, dog's name, what his last mal was, and would have interviewed everyone from their mother to his elementary school janitor by now.

[Airwolf]

They are now reporting it as a former active duty Army Soldier with a Less Then Honorable Discharge after 6 years in service. They are also saying he had tattoo's with links to Nazi/skin head groups.

[thundley4]

They are now reporting it as a former active duty Army Soldier with a Less Then Honorable Discharge after 6 years in service. They are also saying he had tattoo's with links to Nazi/skin head groups.

I thought I heard a general discharge, but that he wasn't allowed to reenlist.

[Airwolf]

According to Yahoo this is what they say.

More on the suspect
U.S. Army officials say Page was first stationed at Fort Still, then Fort Bliss and then Fort Bragg. He rose to the rank of sergeant while in the Army, but was given a dishonorable discharge in 1998, reduced in rank to a specialist for acts of misconduct.

Officials say Page had no criminal record in the military and no record of combat deployments

http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/08/06/13141505-authorities-name-alleged-gunman-in-wisconsin-sikh-temple-attack?lite&GT1=43001

[thundley4]

According to Yahoo this is what they say.

More on the suspect
U.S. Army officials say Page was first stationed at Fort Still, then Fort Bliss and then Fort Bragg. He rose to the rank of sergeant while in the Army, but was given a dishonorable discharge in 1998, reduced in rank to a specialist for acts of misconduct.

Officials say Page had no criminal record in the military and no record of combat deployments

http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/08/06/13141505-authorities-name-alleged-gunman-in-wisconsin-sikh-temple-attack?lite&GT1=43001

Thanks for the link, I must have heard wrong.

[docstew]

According to Yahoo this is what they say.

More on the suspect
U.S. Army officials say Page was first stationed at Fort Still, then Fort Bliss and then Fort Bragg. He rose to the rank of sergeant while in the Army, but was given a dishonorable discharge in 1998, reduced in rank to a specialist for acts of misconduct.

Officials say Page had no criminal record in the military and no record of combat deployments

http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/08/06/13141505-authorities-name-alleged-gunman-in-wisconsin-sikh-temple-attack?lite&GT1=43001

You don't get reduced from sergeant to specialist for no reason. Usually it involves an Article 15, which is a non-judicial way to dispose of a violation of the Uniform Code of Military Justice. The UCMJ is a federal law, therefore, someone who has been found guilty and punished under Art 15 by definition has a criminal record.

[Airwolf]

You don't get reduced from sergeant to specialist for no reason. Usually it involves an Article 15, which is a non-judicial way to dispose of a violation of the Uniform Code of Military Justice. The UCMJ is a federal law, therefore, someone who has been found guilty and punished under Art 15 by definition has a criminal record.

That's what I thought. Then again you can't expect the media to get things right.

[Freeper]

You don't get reduced from sergeant to specialist for no reason. Usually it involves an Article 15, which is a non-judicial way to dispose of a violation of the Uniform Code of Military Justice. The UCMJ is a federal law, therefore, someone who has been found guilty and punished under Art 15 by definition has a criminal record.

My bet is an on post DUI, since no criminal record, coming up hot on a piss test, or sexual harassment.

[obumazombie]

My point is, any law breaker is far more likely to be a lib. The greater the offense, the greater the likelihood the perpetrator is a lib.

[redwhit]

My point is, any law breaker is far more likely to be a lib. The greater the offense, the greater the likelihood the perpetrator is a lib.

Seriously, who cares how he voted?  Same for Laughner and the Aurora shooter.  This idiot thought it was a good idea to go into a house of worship and start shooting innocent men, women, and children.  He's an abomination, not something to be used as a political tool.  He's no different than a rabid dog and needs to be treated as such.

[obumazombie]

Seriously, who cares how he voted?  Same for Laughner and the Aurora shooter.  This idiot thought it was a good idea to go into a house of worship and start shooting innocent men, women, and children.  He's an abomination, not something to be used as a political tool.  He's no different than a rabid dog and needs to be treated as such.

I don't care how they vote. I care how they act, and what train of thought leads to their actions. The type of thinking like OWSers.

[Bad Dog]

You don't get reduced from sergeant to specialist for no reason. Usually it involves an Article 15, which is a non-judicial way to dispose of a violation of the Uniform Code of Military Justice. The UCMJ is a federal law, therefore, someone who has been found guilty and punished under Art 15 by definition has a criminal record.

I read it was an "Other Than Honorable" discharge (one notch below dishonorable).  Regardless, reduction from Sgt. & OTH discharge or DD would require courts martial rather than Art 15.