Drug Tests? NOOOOOOOOOOO!!!

[Zathras]

I'm on unemployment right now (hopefully not too much longer if the job I applied for last week comes through...looking like it's a good possibility) and I would have no problem with this. The again I'm not a drug addled fool like most of the morons at DU so I can understand why they'd be against it.

[IassaFTots]

I have been on unemployment myself, and when I was, I wouldn't have a problem with it either.  I have to take a drug test randomly at work, why would I object to taking one when I was not working?

[Celtic Rose]

To get Unemployment, one is supposed to be ready and willing to take a job.  Considering how many employers require drug tests, doing drugs would prevent them from becoming employed, and should be an absolute barrier.  Not to mention, they are using government money to purchase something that that same government has outlawed.  Absolutely they should be drug tested.   

[moko]

I see ..... I seeeee  .. more alcoholics . You cant social engineer losers into something they are not .



 There is a guy that walks by my store window every two hours , every day , to fetch another quart of beer . We have yet to track his movements with a bingo marker and an hourly chart , but the thought has occurred to me .  I am just too damned busy bailing to bother with play . But when I am outside,  I do encourage him to pick up the pace , lest he be late for WORK .   He just grins . What a pot full of money that must cost .

 

[Chris_]

I'm all for drug testing ANYONE AND EVERYONE who applies for any type of government assistant.

[LC EFA]

I'm all for drug testing ANYONE AND EVERYONE who applies for any type of government assistant.

I'd extend that to anyone that receives any form of money from the government. Including elected officials, contractors, all staff and so forth.

[Chris_]

That's fine with me too.

[AllosaursRus]

To get Unemployment, one is supposed to be ready and willing to take a job.  Considering how many employers require drug tests, doing drugs would prevent them from becoming employed, and should be an absolute barrier.  Not to mention, they are using government money to purchase something that that same government has outlawed.  Absolutely they should be drug tested.   

At the very least, if the reason you are not hired is because you failed a drug test, then you should lose your unemployment the same day!

That would eliminate the fed from having to fund it! Win, win!

[MrsSmith]

I once knew a man that was desperate to get custody of his daughter.  For a while, I was in total sympathy with him...he seemed to be so upset at losing custody.  Then he started drinking - again - and spent a good hour ranting about the fact that he'd never have to work again, and could drink all he wanted, if the state would just give him his kid and his welfare benefits back. 


Needless to say, I was a lot less sympathetic after that.  In fact, as I recall it, the next time he brought it up when he was sober, I was down right rude.   

[BlueStateSaint]

I once knew a man that was desperate to get custody of his daughter.  For a while, I was in total sympathy with him...he seemed to be so upset at losing custody.  Then he started drinking - again - and spent a good hour ranting about the fact that he'd never have to work again, and could drink all he wanted, if the state would just give him his kid and his welfare benefits back. 


Needless to say, I was a lot less sympathetic after that.  In fact, as I recall it, the next time he brought it up when he was sober, I was down right rude.   

Completely understandable.  I probably would have done the same.

[MrsSmith]

Completely understandable.  I probably would have done the same.

The system screws a lot of things up, but sometimes they get it right.

[PatriotGame]

I see ..... I seeeee  .. more alcoholics . You cant social engineer losers into something they are not .

That may be true but by the same token, the taxpayer cannot be burdened with funding an immoral loser's drug habit. Besides, losers like you STEAL funding/taxpayer support from those that really and honestly need it - like children.

[miskie]

Hell, to deliver the mail, I ended up getting tested for something on the order of 26 different illegal drugs and commonly abused prescription drugs. took me all of a few minutes to pee in a cup, and then wait for the lab technician to pour it into a testing vessel with markers for all the different drugs pre-affixed and ready to go.

I get government money (well - I get paid by postage.. the P.O. gets nothing from taxes, but close enough) so I got tested. no big deal.

[MrsSmith]

Hell, to deliver the mail, I ended up getting tested for something on the order of 26 different illegal drugs and commonly abused prescription drugs. took me all of a few minutes to pee in a cup, and then wait for the lab technician to pour it into a testing vessel with markers for all the different drugs pre-affixed and ready to go.

I get government money (well - I get paid by postage.. the P.O. gets nothing from taxes, but close enough) so I got tested. no big deal.

Yeah, we have random tests where I work, also. 

[Randy]

Yeah, we have random tests where I work, also. 

We get tested if we get hurt so Workers Comp can screw us if we fail and if we run into something, damaging it so they can fire us if we fail.

[IassaFTots]

We get tested if we get hurt so Workers Comp can screw us if we fail and if we run into something, damaging it so they can fire us if we fail.

DOT Randoms here.  I could get canned if I took anything that wasn't prescribed to me.

[Opfor6]

If you look in the Want Ads you will see that the majority of opportunities, (as scarce as they are), are requiring pre-employment drug tests.

Personally I feel that it is an affront to my civil liberties but you can either have your pride and starve or piss in a cup and feed your family. 

[NHSparky]

If you look in the Want Ads you will see that the majority of opportunities, (as scarce as they are), are requiring pre-employment drug tests.

Personally I feel that it is an affront to my civil liberties but you can either have your pride and starve or piss in a cup and feed your family. 

Again, where do your "civil liberties" come into play?  That libertarian mindset bullshit works both ways.  BTW--if people are using food stamps or their EBT to obtain cash and drugs, would you not agree that the government has a right, if not an OBLIGATION to the taxpayer to 1--remove that person from the dole, or 2--ensure ONLY foodstuffs and BASIC necessities (clothing and shelter) are purchased with said welfare?

It's not an either-or.  You can still have your "pride" and still piss in a cup to feed your family.  I do it as a condition of my employment on a random basis.  So do a lot of other folks here.  Please try to remember that.

[Opfor6]

It will be easier to remember when every member of Congress, the Executive and Judicial branch have unannounced random drug tests. And lets make sure that state and local government politicians and employees are also tested.

[NHSparky]

It will be easier to remember when every member of Congress, the Executive and Judicial branch have unannounced random drug tests. And lets make sure that state and local government politicians and employees are also tested.

Actually, I wouldn't have a problem with it if they have security clearances or otherwise handle sensitive information.  I've been subject to random urinalysis by EVERY employer I've had (government or civilian) since the age of 17.  Nature of the beast.

Bottom line, if you can't do the time, don't do the crime.

[Randy]

Actually, I wouldn't have a problem with it if they have security clearances or otherwise handle sensitive information.  I've been subject to random urinalysis by EVERY employer I've had (government or civilian) since the age of 17.  Nature of the beast.

Bottom line, if you can't do the time, don't do the crime.

And if you choose to do the crime you'd best find a legit way to support yourself.

[MrsSmith]

It will be easier to remember when every member of Congress, the Executive and Judicial branch have unannounced random drug tests. And lets make sure that state and local government politicians and employees are also tested.

I'd be totally in favor of that.  Given some of the stuff they pull, I wouldn't doubt that half our government is high most of the time.

[Opfor6]

I'd be totally in favor of that.  Given some of the stuff they pull, I wouldn't doubt that half our government is high most of the time.

I'd also add that they have to blow into a breathalyzer before they vote. Especially after they come back from lunch.

[diesel driver]

It will be easier to remember when every member of Congress, the Executive and Judicial branch have unannounced random drug tests. And lets make sure that state and local government politicians and employees are also tested.

To make it sweeter for our esteemed bureaucrats, IF you test positive, you get ONE chance at rehab, counseling, whatever, to clean up your act.  ONE CHANCE!

Blow the second test, YOU ARE REMOVED FROM OFFICE!  No paycheck, no pension, no appeal, just GET THE HELL OUT!   

As an extra added bonus, any and all legislation that they sponsored the previous 12 months WILL BE NULLIFIED, regardless if it was passed or not!

No Kennedys (or their relatives) will be allowed in the chambers for a vote if said vote happens after the lunch recess, unless they can blow a BAC of <.01%, and haven't had a traffic offense in the last 6 months.... 

[NHSparky]

Hate to bust your balls, but there's a lot of people in sensitive positions who can't meet that criteria.

I'm okay with members of Congress undergoing random urinalysis and breathalyzer as well as any of their staffers who handle classified information (and some already do), but you can't just "undo" a law.