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"Well, when did YOU serve?"
« on: November 24, 2009, 06:17:47 PM »
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"Well, when did YOU serve?"
   
Has a wingnut ever made that statement to you?

Anytime you say anything pro-peace, or what THEY interpret as "anti troops" which can be any range of things, a wingnut is bound to reply "when did YOU serve?"

There's a big issue I have with this line of "logic". First, more often than not, the person asking that question has never served, much in the way he is implying that you have not.

Second, it implies that veterans or currently serving personnel in our military somehow have special, arcane knowledge of all things defense related, which is simply untrue.

Third, there's a severe double standard at work here. John Kerry served and was decorated, Jimmy Carter served honorably, yet Dumbya avoided much of his guard duty, and Reagan served in a friggin' MOVIE UNIT in WWII fer chrissakes! So, one has to be a vet to speak on defense issues, but ONLY if you agree with Rethug opinions on those issues, and if you agree, then you don't have to be much of a vet at all.

Fourth, it implies that somehow veterans have some sort of character traits which put them above the ordinary citizen. While those who do and have served are willing to make the ultimate sacrifice on behalf of their nation and deserve due consideration for that, they are in every other sense no different from everyone else. Most are good people, but some are very much the opposite. Lee Harvey Oswald, Timothy McVeigh and Lyndie England spring to mind.

Fifth, it assumes that all uniformed personnel think the same way. While serving you can't really show any dissent, due to this little thing called the UCMJ. But that doesn't mean that everyone who has ever worn a uniform is a rightie. Far from it.

Finally, if we were to take this thinking to a logical conclusion, then saying you have to have served to say anything critical about the military is like saying you have to have a vagina to have any opinion about abortion, pro or anti-choice. And I'm sure no wingnut would ever agree with that sentiment.

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You DUmmies don't want to play the service record game anymore. Obama didn't serve a single day, John McCain on the other hand a war hero.

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1. I serve every day
   
in America's classrooms.

There is more than one kind of service.

Blowing your teacher doesn't count as service.

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37. I've told them to their faces....   Updated at 10:39 PM
   
4 years in the Marine Corps - including 13 months in Vietnam - and 30 years in a High School classroom. I don't have to do any more to prove my service... or my courage!

I just don't understand how a Marine can be a liberal.

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18. Me and You Mark
   
Wer'e just candy assed sissy liberals (who happen to have served in the military)

Meanwhile limbaugh and beck are proud "Patriots."

I can still chew some ass like the ole days so wingnuts who know me don't breach the subject of military service.

And you moonbats consider Obama a patriot. You tell me which one is crazier.

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4. Folks like Taverner and I have served more than your average FReep.
   
n.t.

Once again giving blowjobs does not count as service.

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SIMPLYB1980  Donating Member  (1000+ posts)  Journal  Click to send private message to this author  Click to view this author's profile  Click to add this author to your buddy list  Click to add this author to your Ignore list      Tue Nov-24-09 02:36 PM
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10. Our side does the same stupid shit.
   
Edited on Tue Nov-24-09 02:41 PM by SIMPLYB1980
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Obama hasn't served does that make him unfit for CIC?

Nope his policies and hatred of America does though.

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36. I can tell by your post my friend that
   
we agree. All st ronnie ever was, was just an actor. if it wasn't for the screen actors guild, he'd abeen a flop.

Peace.

And yet Ronnie is more loved than Obama can ever hope to be.

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arbusto_baboso  Donating Member  (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author  Click to view this author's profile  Click to add this author to your buddy list  Click to add this author to your Ignore list      Tue Nov-24-09 03:41 PM
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29. I've seen some damn good fakers, though.
   
Some who have only been caught with inquiries into military records. They were good enough to fool many a genuine vet. There are damn few of them, but they do exist.

Like John Kerry?

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32. "While your daddy was away, I served with your mom."
   
As good an answer to that bullshit as any.

Yeah like you would survive trying that.

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45. The ones I know are chickenshit draft dodgers, like Chickenshit Bush

Obama didn't serve and is saying the war in Afghanistan is necessary. Is he a chicken hawk too?

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Re: "Well, when did YOU serve?"
« Reply #1 on: November 24, 2009, 06:24:30 PM »
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Obama didn't serve and is saying the war in Afghanistan is necessary. Is he a chicken hawk too?

Nope, just chicken.  I never thought I'd see the day when a French President would have more of my respect, than the US president, but it has happened with Sarkozy and Lord Zero.
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Re: "Well, when did YOU serve?"
« Reply #2 on: November 24, 2009, 06:25:13 PM »
Quote from: Freeper on November 24, 2009, 06:17:47 PM
Blowing your teacher doesn't count as service.

Are her students shooting at her? ::)
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Re: "Well, when did YOU serve?"
« Reply #3 on: November 24, 2009, 06:30:41 PM »
The reason we like Beck, Hannity, Rush, Boortz, Levin, etc., is because they support us, you f'n moonbats. You idiots don't. Do you idiots need examples? I can think of about 5 dozen.
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Re: "Well, when did YOU serve?"
« Reply #4 on: November 24, 2009, 06:32:13 PM »
Quote from: Rebel on November 24, 2009, 06:30:41 PM
The reason we like Beck, Hannity, Rush, Boortz, Levin, etc., is because they support us, you f'n moonbats. You idiots don't. Do you idiots need examples? I can think of about 5 dozen.

Kev, I think they do need examples.
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Re: "Well, when did YOU serve?"
« Reply #5 on: November 24, 2009, 06:36:58 PM »
DUers are at a loss on that one, McDonald's doesn't have servers, just kitchen and counter staff!

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Re: "Well, when did YOU serve?"
« Reply #6 on: November 24, 2009, 06:37:22 PM »
Quote from: BlueStateSaint on November 24, 2009, 06:32:13 PM
Kev, I think they do need examples.

The examples I can give, like Murtha, Durbin, Kerry, the moonbats trying to stop the deploying Strykers when I was at Lewis, etc., they'll call "true patriots".

I'm getting to the point where I think their eradication would be for the sake of national defense and self-preservation of this country.
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Re: "Well, when did YOU serve?"
« Reply #7 on: November 24, 2009, 07:06:13 PM »
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arbusto_baboso  Donating Member  (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author  Click to view this author's profile  Click to add this author to your buddy list  Click to add this author to your Ignore list      Tue Nov-24-09 02:27 PM
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"Well, when did YOU serve?"
   
Has a wingnut ever made that statement to you?

Anytime you say anything pro-peace, or what THEY interpret as "anti troops" which can be any range of things, a wingnut is bound to reply "when did YOU serve?"

Just for clarification, you loons are not "pro-peace". You are "pro-appeasement". There is a difference.
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Re: "Well, when did YOU serve?"
« Reply #8 on: November 24, 2009, 07:18:03 PM »
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BOSSHOG  Donating Member  (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author  Click to view this author's profile  Click to add this author to your buddy list  Click to add this author to your Ignore list      Tue Nov-24-09 02:41 PM
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18. Me and You Mark
   
Wer'e just candy assed sissy liberals (who happen to have served in the military)

Meanwhile limbaugh and beck are proud "Patriots."

I can still chew some ass like the ole days so wingnuts who know me don't breach the subject of military service.

Bring it.  I'll have you choking on your dentures inside of five minutes you troop hating POS.

You've done nothing but take a giant dump on soldiers since your stateside service 4 decades ago.
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Re: "Well, when did YOU serve?"
« Reply #9 on: November 24, 2009, 07:19:50 PM »
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Most are good people, but some are very much the opposite. Lee Harvey Oswald, Timothy McVeigh and Lyndie England spring to mind.

Wow. At the DUmp, a presidential assasin and a mass murderer are no worse than a halfwit accused of taunting muslim terrorists.
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Re: "Well, when did YOU serve?"
« Reply #10 on: November 24, 2009, 07:20:02 PM »
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I just don't understand how a Marine can be a liberal.

I went into the Army in 70. I was RA. Those draftee's were classified as US. At the induction station, all those that were classified as US counted from 1 to 10. All the 10's were the property of the US Marine Corps.
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Re: "Well, when did YOU serve?"
« Reply #11 on: November 24, 2009, 11:25:53 PM »
And yet they never prove their service and yet talk so big and bad online over at the DUmp. There is more fakers over there then at Kerry's Winter Soldier testimony.
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Re: "Well, when did YOU serve?"
« Reply #12 on: November 25, 2009, 12:08:12 AM »
The CSM of my training batallion at Fort Gordon was an original draftee.  He had counted number 9.  The Marines took numbers 1 through 8 that day.
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Re: "Well, when did YOU serve?"
« Reply #13 on: November 25, 2009, 01:46:45 AM »
HAHAHAHAHA

That chickenhawk meme don't work so good roles reversed eh DUmmies.

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Re: "Well, when did YOU serve?"
« Reply #14 on: November 25, 2009, 03:24:21 AM »
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18. Me and You Mark
   
Wer'e just candy assed sissy liberals (who happen to have served in the military)

Meanwhile limbaugh and beck are proud "Patriots."

I can still chew some ass like the ole days so wingnuts who know me don't breach the subject of military service.
Drop your e-mail here cocksucker:

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I'll take your "bong resin soaked brain" hippie fantasies to task straight away and gag your queer ass with truth in the process.

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Re: "Well, when did YOU serve?"
« Reply #15 on: November 25, 2009, 03:26:51 AM »
Quote from: Chris on November 24, 2009, 06:25:13 PM
Are her students shooting at her? ::)

Yes...in a differ manner...
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Re: "Well, when did YOU serve?"
« Reply #16 on: November 25, 2009, 01:05:12 PM »
Why is it than when a Marine goes left they go absolutely batshit moonbat spewing crazy?

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Re: "Well, when did YOU serve?"
« Reply #17 on: November 25, 2009, 01:14:10 PM »
Quote from: delilahmused on November 25, 2009, 01:05:12 PM
Why is it than when a Marine goes left they go absolutely batshit moonbat spewing crazy?

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You assume he ever was a Marine.
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Re: "Well, when did YOU serve?"
« Reply #18 on: November 25, 2009, 01:14:58 PM »
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Most are good people, but some are very much the opposite. Lee Harvey Oswald, Timothy McVeigh and Lyndie England spring to mind.
Wow. At the DUmp, a communist presidential assasin and a arguably leftist mass murderer are no worse than a halfwit accused of taunting muslim terrorists.

Fixed 'er there for ya... :II:
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Re: "Well, when did YOU serve?"
« Reply #19 on: November 25, 2009, 01:16:26 PM »
Quote from: blitzkrieg_17 on November 25, 2009, 01:14:10 PM
You assume her ever was a Marine.

Even if the DUmbass in question is 'Stolen Valor' bait, we still have the issue of Jack Murtha that validates her point.
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Re: "Well, when did YOU serve?"
« Reply #20 on: November 25, 2009, 01:26:34 PM »
Where was this thread in 2004?
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Re: "Well, when did YOU serve?"
« Reply #21 on: November 25, 2009, 02:19:51 PM »
Quote from: Mr Snuggle Bunny on November 25, 2009, 01:26:34 PM
Where was this thread in 2004?

Probably in a bong somewhere.
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