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Title: Ohioans’ food stamp aid to be reduced; Benefit to fall $50 a month starting in J
Post by: Ballygrl on November 13, 2012, 01:05:00 PM
http://sync.democraticunderground.com/10021800914

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Purveyor (9,747 posts)

Ohioans’ food stamp aid to be reduced; Benefit to fall $50 a month starting in January

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marmar (57,610 posts)
1. Whomever is responsible for that "calculation" needs to step foot in a grocery store.

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Arkansas Granny (13,678 posts)
2. Yes. I'm pretty sure that the higher cost of groceries has more than canceled

out any savings that they saw in utility bills.

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sunwyn (351 posts)
3. I recieve food stamps in Ohio and yes

this will be devastating. I have been unemployed for 4 plus years and while I managed to live off my savings for 3 years, I finally had to apply or go hungry. I have an allotment of 200 dollars a month as I have no income though I have to hitchhike to the job center and put in so many hours a month. Jobs are still few and far between here. To top it off - the garden that I planted last Spring and looked so promising early on, crumbled to dust as the temps soared and the rain was non-existent. I have nothing left to sell and live with my elderly mother because she can no longer manage on her own. I am close to just giving up....

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SickOfTheOnePct (1,792 posts)
6. People do donate stars, you know that, right?

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etherealtruth (7,398 posts)
7. This is what prompted your first post?

Amazing ....?

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one_voice (8,743 posts)
8. Ass!

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sunwyn (351 posts)
9. some kind person donated my star.... clearly compassion and comraderie are out of

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etherealtruth (7,398 posts)
12. The jack ass is no longer among the posting

So sorry to hear of your struggles. I am ashamed of a nation that lets this happen

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antigone382 (2,993 posts)
15. I'm gonna go ahead and brag on myself for alerting on that turd.

I rely on foodstamps as well (I'm in school as a nontraditional student right now, and I look forward to the day that I can give back more to my society than my society has given me). Losing $50 out of $200 would be a serious hardship for me (and dear lurkers, my star was also donated by another DUer). I am very sorry that you are going through this right now.

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uppityperson (67,570 posts)
10. The garbage was taken out.

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sunwyn (351 posts)
13. Thank you....I will never understand so many people's lack of compassion

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hrmjustin (3,083 posts)
5. So sorry to hear that my friend. Don't give up.

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sunwyn (351 posts)
11. Thanks for the kind words folks....they go a long way toward my morale

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yardwork (35,073 posts)
14. I am so sorry. I hope that things get better for you soon.

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Melinda (4,626 posts)
17. You shouldn't see a change in your benefits.

Based upon what you said above as to having no income, it appears as if you have no excess shelter costs or need for the standard utility allowance deduction (used with housing costs +income +household size to determine allotment). And of course you are a separate household - you prepare and eat your food apart from your mother. Many families live under one roof, and each of those families or individuals need apply as separate households to ensure they receive benefits based on their income (or lack thereof) and shelter costs alone. It is those with income that are going to primarily suffer a loss of benefits, and I simply don't understand why the USDA has decided to change the amount allowed as a utility deduction. I'm going to get up to speed on this.

Regardless, as the article says, more than 869,000 Ohioans' will suffer increased food insecurity (gads, I despise that term), and with 46 million in the US living in poverty and 1 in 4 children going to bed hungry each and every night, this is unconscionable and should be criminal.

Hang in there, and know you have souls out here rooting for you and doing their level best to help those like you thru this time. It took Bush* eight years to destroy our economy, and it's going to take a while longer to get things running again.

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Maplegrass (41 posts)
16. Unconscionable.

This is no time to be taking food off the tables of the most disadvantaged.
Title: Re: Ohioans’ food stamp aid to be reduced; Benefit to fall $50 a month starting in J
Post by: Chris_ on November 13, 2012, 01:10:27 PM
 :ownit:

Obama thanks you for your votes.
Title: Re: Ohioans’ food stamp aid to be reduced; Benefit to fall $50 a month starting in J
Post by: NHSparky on November 13, 2012, 01:17:48 PM
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I'm in school as a nontraditional student right now, and I look forward to the day that I can give back more to my society than my society has given me.

Never gonna happen.  You're a leech, you've always been a leech, you'll always be a leech.
Title: Re: Ohioans’ food stamp aid to be reduced; Benefit to fall $50 a month starting in J
Post by: FlaGator on November 13, 2012, 01:21:44 PM
But hey! You do have a new Obamaphone.
Title: Re: Ohioans’ food stamp aid to be reduced; Benefit to fall $50 a month starting in J
Post by: Rebel on November 13, 2012, 01:26:59 PM
But hey! You do have a new Obamaphone.

[youtube=425,350]Ax-2i71bqGw[/youtube]
Title: Re: Ohioans’ food stamp aid to be reduced; Benefit to fall $50 a month starting in J
Post by: jukin on November 13, 2012, 01:35:44 PM
According to the Obama regime inflation is well under 2% so losing $50/month should be no big deal.
Title: Re: Ohioans’ food stamp aid to be reduced; Benefit to fall $50 a month starting in J
Post by: Karin on November 13, 2012, 01:36:03 PM
And they do have the Obamacare they have to buy.  It's not free you know, DUmmies.  And, it only gets you a card.  Nobody will touch you with a ten-foot pole.  Why should they for pennies?  
Title: Re: Ohioans’ food stamp aid to be reduced; Benefit to fall $50 a month starting in J
Post by: Dori on November 13, 2012, 01:38:39 PM
According to the Obama regime inflation is well under 2% so losing $50/month should be no big deal.

I'm paying a lot more and buying less these days....some things have doubled since Obummer took office.
Title: Re: Ohioans’ food stamp aid to be reduced; Benefit to fall $50 a month starting in J
Post by: Skul on November 13, 2012, 01:42:27 PM
I'm paying a lot more and buying less these days....some things have doubled since Obummer took office.
Ammunition?  :whistling:
Title: Re: Ohioans’ food stamp aid to be reduced; Benefit to fall $50 a month starting in J
Post by: Gina on November 13, 2012, 01:45:45 PM
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marmar (57,610 posts)
1. Whomever is responsible for that "calculation" needs to step foot in a grocery store.

Obama ain't stepping foot anywhere unless there is arugula
Title: Re: Ohioans’ food stamp aid to be reduced; Benefit to fall $50 a month starting in J
Post by: Gina on November 13, 2012, 01:46:49 PM
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sunwyn (351 posts)
3. I recieve food stamps in Ohio and yes

this will be devastating. I have been unemployed for 4 plus years and while I managed to live off my savings for 3 years, I finally had to apply or go hungry. I have an allotment of 200 dollars a month as I have no income though I have to hitchhike to the job center and put in so many hours a month. Jobs are still few and far between here. To top it off - the garden that I planted last Spring and looked so promising early on, crumbled to dust as the temps soared and the rain was non-existent. I have nothing left to sell and live with my elderly mother because she can no longer manage on her own. I am close to just giving up...

This person is at the library right?  typing on a library computer correct?  :???:
Title: Re: Ohioans’ food stamp aid to be reduced; Benefit to fall $50 a month starting in J
Post by: Gina on November 13, 2012, 01:49:14 PM
What did the "ass" say?  is that deleted?
Title: Re: Ohioans’ food stamp aid to be reduced; Benefit to fall $50 a month starting in J
Post by: franksolich on November 13, 2012, 01:55:55 PM
What did the "ass" say?  is that deleted?

Yeah, it was.

Given the reaction, apparently it was a comment about how one can afford to have a star on Skins's island and at the same time claim poverty.
Title: Re: Ohioans’ food stamp aid to be reduced; Benefit to fall $50 a month starting in J
Post by: Alpha Mare on November 13, 2012, 01:57:44 PM
Ammunition?  :whistling:

We cast our own.
Title: Re: Ohioans’ food stamp aid to be reduced; Benefit to fall $50 a month starting in J
Post by: Wineslob on November 13, 2012, 02:02:22 PM
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Maplegrass (41 posts)
16. Unconscionable.

This is no time to be taking food off the tables of the most disadvantaged.

You not like, comrade? Fifty dollar too much? Can make much worse.
Title: Re: Ohioans’ food stamp aid to be reduced; Benefit to fall $50 a month starting in J
Post by: Ballygrl on November 13, 2012, 02:03:37 PM
What did the "ass" say?  is that deleted?

It was hidden but I guess it was a comment about the person having a star and they must've paid for it.
Title: Re: Ohioans’ food stamp aid to be reduced; Benefit to fall $50 a month starting in J
Post by: JohnnyReb on November 13, 2012, 02:04:56 PM
You not like, comrade? Fifty dollar too much? Can make much worse.

Can increase food ration another negative $50, comrade.
Title: Re: Ohioans’ food stamp aid to be reduced; Benefit to fall $50 a month starting in J
Post by: jukin on November 13, 2012, 02:11:33 PM
Thanks to glorious leader your food ration stamps have been increased from $200 to $150.

It is going to be glorious future comrades, GLORIOUS!!
Title: Re: Ohioans’ food stamp aid to be reduced; Benefit to fall $50 a month starting in J
Post by: dandi on November 13, 2012, 02:41:56 PM
What did the "ass" say?  is that deleted?

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Why did you donate to DU instead of buying food?
Title: Re: Ohioans’ food stamp aid to be reduced; Benefit to fall $50 a month starting in J
Post by: dandi on November 13, 2012, 02:43:23 PM
[youtube=425,350]Ax-2i71bqGw[/youtube]

Freakin' hilarious!  :lmao:
Title: Re: Ohioans’ food stamp aid to be reduced; Benefit to fall $50 a month starting in J
Post by: AprilRazz on November 13, 2012, 02:44:44 PM
[youtube=425,350]Ax-2i71bqGw[/youtube]

 :rotf: :rotf: :rotf:
Title: Re: Ohioans’ food stamp aid to be reduced; Benefit to fall $50 a month starting in J
Post by: wasp69 on November 13, 2012, 03:04:13 PM
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sunwyn (351 posts)
3. I recieve food stamps in Ohio and yes

this will be devastating. I have been unemployed for 4 plus years and while I managed to live off my savings for 3 years, I finally had to apply or go hungry. I have an allotment of 200 dollars a month as I have no income though I have to hitchhike to the job center and put in so many hours a month. Jobs are still few and far between here. To top it off - the garden that I planted last Spring and looked so promising early on, crumbled to dust as the temps soared and the rain was non-existent. I have nothing left to sell and live with my elderly mother because she can no longer manage on her own. I am close to just giving up...

Man, that sucks.  Too bad you voted for more of the same, huh, DUmbass?

You wanted it, you got it, you now

:ownit:
Title: Re: Ohioans’ food stamp aid to be reduced; Benefit to fall $50 a month starting in J
Post by: BadCat on November 13, 2012, 03:33:53 PM
Since the folks in Ohio who are on food stamps voted overwhelmingly for socialism...I hope they all starve in the dark and cold.

Own it, moonbats.
Title: Re: Ohioans’ food stamp aid to be reduced; Benefit to fall $50 a month starting in J
Post by: franksolich on November 13, 2012, 03:37:08 PM
Since the folks in Ohio who are on food stamps voted overwhelmingly for socialism...I hope they all starve in the dark and cold.

Own it, moonbats.

I don't thinking cutting fifty bucks a month will do it, though.

I think the cut should be a whole lot more.
Title: Re: Ohioans’ food stamp aid to be reduced; Benefit to fall $50 a month starting in J
Post by: BadCat on November 13, 2012, 03:54:22 PM
I don't thinking cutting fifty bucks a month will do it, though.

I think the cut should be a whole lot more.

I agree.

But it's a start.
Title: Re: Ohioans’ food stamp aid to be reduced; Benefit to fall $50 a month starting in J
Post by: GOBUCKS on November 13, 2012, 05:09:02 PM
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sunwyn (351 posts)
3. I recieve food stamps in Ohio and yes

this will be devastating.  I am close to just giving up....

I strongly suggest that DUmmy sunwyn give up, turn off the pilot light, turn the oven to broil, and go to bed.

It would save the working people of Ohio a lot more than $50 a month, and make the world a better place.
Title: Re: Ohioans’ food stamp aid to be reduced; Benefit to fall $50 a month starting in J
Post by: franksolich on November 13, 2012, 05:11:11 PM
I strongly suggest that DUmmy sunwyn give up, turn off the pilot light, turn the oven to broil, and go to bed.

It would save the working people of Ohio a lot more than $50 a month, and make the world a better place.

Bingo.

It would solve her problem, and humanity's problem.
Title: Re: Ohioans’ food stamp aid to be reduced; Benefit to fall $50 a month starting in J
Post by: I_B_Perky on November 13, 2012, 05:27:03 PM
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sunwyn (351 posts)
3. I recieve food stamps in Ohio and yes

this will be devastating. I have been unemployed for 4 plus years and while I managed to live off my savings for 3 years, I finally had to apply or go hungry. I have an allotment of 200 dollars a month as I have no income though I have to hitchhike to the job center and put in so many hours a month. Jobs are still few and far between here. To top it off - the garden that I planted last Spring and looked so promising early on, crumbled to dust as the temps soared and the rain was non-existent. I have nothing left to sell and live with my elderly mother because she can no longer manage on her own. I am close to just giving up....

Well dummie... I am assuming since you post at the dump that you are a liberal dem. I guess you voted for obumbles. You are in Ohio so you were one of the idiots that decided the election. Guess what dummie? You wanted it. You voted for more of the same. You got it and now you own it. Crumbs from the obumbles table. Sorry about your luck... well no I am not! Look in the mirror dummie. Anyone with 2 functioning brain cells could see this coming if obumbles was re-elected. You got what you wanted.

Now suffer dummie. Suffer. Actions have consequences in the real world and Daddy obumbles don't give a shit about you. He got what he wanted and you are gonna suffer. You were warned.

Sucks to be you dummie. Darwin at work.  :loser:

Look on the bright side though dummie... the obumbles diet will work. I'm betting you gonna lose some weight.   :tongue: :tongue:
Title: Re: Ohioans’ food stamp aid to be reduced; Benefit to fall $50 a month starting in J
Post by: formerlurker on November 13, 2012, 05:31:50 PM
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“This is a federal issue,” said Joel Potts, executive director of the Ohio Department of Job and Family Services Directors’ Association. “It is what it is. They have a formula. ... We just think it is going to be really hard on families and individuals. They will see significantly less money starting in January.”

(http://www.wnd.com/files/2012/10/OBAMA-RING-closeup-14-clear-photo-as-president-hands-clasped-together.jpg)

He feels your pain misfits, and remember - it's GWB's fault. 

Title: Re: Ohioans’ food stamp aid to be reduced; Benefit to fall $50 a month starting in J
Post by: Freeper on November 13, 2012, 06:28:31 PM
This is what happens when the government gets to decide what you need to live on. Just wait until they get to decide what you need for health care.

Ohh and :ownit:

 :rotf:
Title: Re: Ohioans’ food stamp aid to be reduced; Benefit to fall $50 a month starting in J
Post by: thundley4 on November 13, 2012, 06:41:40 PM
This is what happens when the government gets to decide what you need to live on. Just wait until they get to decide what you need for health care.

Ohh and :ownit:

 :rotf:


IIRC, the DUmmies thought that 0Bama should set salary caps for all corporate executives.  This is just his way of doing it by the "trickle up" method.
Title: Re: Ohioans’ food stamp aid to be reduced; Benefit to fall $50 a month starting in J
Post by: Mr Mannn on November 13, 2012, 06:57:16 PM
As socialism grows to encompass all things, there will be less and less money to waste on the unproductive.
Guess who will be the first to face Obama's austerity cuts...YOU!

Lesson for those who cannot learn.
If you live on the govt dole, you will DIE by the govt dole. I will enjoy greatly seeing you DUmmies on the capitol steps threatening violence when Democrats start cutting your entitlements. Knowing that you blood sucking ticks are going hungry will make my every meal all the better.

Title: Re: Ohioans’ food stamp aid to be reduced; Benefit to fall $50 a month starting in J
Post by: NHSparky on November 13, 2012, 07:02:23 PM
"The government big enough to give you everything is big enough to take everything away."

Guess who's going to survive when the government starts taking away?  Those of us who refuse to become dependent on Unca Shuga.
Title: Re: Ohioans’ food stamp aid to be reduced; Benefit to fall $50 a month starting in J
Post by: shadeaux on November 13, 2012, 07:34:59 PM
They, The DUmmies, HAD to know, what the government giveth the government can taketh away,
WHEN THEY FEEL LIKE IT.

And excuse my ungrateful selfish greedy self in case I missed this but I didn't read one, not one offer of compassion come from any DUmbass offering their fellow DUer a gift card to buy food..

Proof once again they are takers not givers. 

Title: Re: Ohioans’ food stamp aid to be reduced; Benefit to fall $50 a month starting in J
Post by: Doc Savage on November 13, 2012, 07:46:34 PM
I was told that if I voted for Romney food stamps would be cut, just never believed it.
Title: Re: Ohioans’ food stamp aid to be reduced; Benefit to fall $50 a month starting in J
Post by: Freeper on November 13, 2012, 07:55:37 PM
I was told that if I voted for Romney food stamps would be cut, just never believed it.

 :rotf:

You have a good point I voted for Romney and sho nough food stamps are being cut.  :rotf:
Title: Re: Ohioans’ food stamp aid to be reduced; Benefit to fall $50 a month starting in J
Post by: I_B_Perky on November 13, 2012, 08:01:47 PM
I was told that if I voted for Romney food stamps would be cut, just never believed it.

 :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Doc you just made me laugh after a hard nite and day.  :cheersmate:
Title: Re: Ohioans’ food stamp aid to be reduced; Benefit to fall $50 a month starting in J
Post by: Rebel on November 13, 2012, 08:04:03 PM
I want you lurking, stupid, moonbat DUmbasses to know something. In the next 4 years, realize this, Obama will STILL be eating Master Chef-cooked meals, taking lavish vacations, and playing golf at the frequency of your average lower-tier, non-PGA card-holding, golf professional.

Suffer, bitches. Obama won't. That's how this shit works. The policies you want for this country, that will DOOM this country, will NEVER affect the top. What, you fools think there will ever be parity? That there will ever be the "fairness" you ****ing idiots think is fair? Hey, lurking DUmbasses, SHOW ME ONE NATION ON THE FACE OF THIS PLANET WHERE RICH AND POOR PEOPLE DO NOT EXIST! There are rich people EVEN in shitholes like Ghana, you ****ing idiots. The difference is, which country allows for different classes in between and which country provides the most opportunity for upward mobility. We USED to be THAT Damn COUNTRY! Know what? You ****ing idiots just killed that. Immigrants no longer see this country that way unless their country is a complete basketcase like Mexico.

I pray to God that the Mayan prophecy only includes stupid people. If it does, I won't have to deal with you ****tards anymore. You think tha majority of "educated" people are liberal. Well, NEWSFLASH for you, DUmbasses, those of us that have degrees in the hard sciences? Yeah, we look down on your worthless jokes of ****ing degrees. There's a reason you can't get a ****ing job, unless you already have a job teaching theory. Me? I have a business degree in information technology. I'm skrate. You ****ers with sociology, AA studies, or Womyn's studies? Can ****ING starve for all I care.

Go play in traffic, DUmbasses. You just thrust upon the nation another 4 years of an illiterate jackass that has our U3 rate at 7.9% (yeah right), U6 of close to 18%, 10+ million on food stamps, 3 straight years of over a 1 trillion dollar deficit, a 16 trillion dollar debt, gas prices over 3.00, food prices rising, etc., etc., etc.

You DUmbasses enjoy your victory. Me? I'm arming up so I can deal with your cretins when they start to riot and loot like they're doing in Greece because this shit IS NOT SUSTAINABLE.
Title: Re: Ohioans’ food stamp aid to be reduced; Benefit to fall $50 a month starting in J
Post by: Freeper on November 13, 2012, 08:09:24 PM
I want you lurking, stupid, moonbat DUmbasses to know something. In the next 4 years, realize this, Obama will STILL be eating Master Chef-cooked meals, taking lavish vacations, and playing golf at the frequency of your average lower-tier, non-PGA card-holding, golf professional.

Suffer, bitches. Obama won't. That's how this shit works. The policies you want for this country, that will DOOM this country, will NEVER affect the top. What, you fools think there will ever be parity? That there will ever be the "fairness" you ****ing idiots think is fair? Hey, lurking DUmbasses, SHOW ME ONE NATION ON THE FACE OF THIS PLANET WHERE RICH AND POOR PEOPLE DO NOT EXIST! There are rich people EVEN in shitholes like Ghana, you ****ing idiots. The difference is, which country allows for different classes in between and which country provides the most opportunity for upward mobility. We USED to be THAT Damn COUNTRY! Know what? You ****ing idiots just killed that. Immigrants no longer see this country that way unless their country is a complete basketcase like Mexico.

I pray to God that the Mayan prophecy only includes stupid people. If it does, I won't have to deal with you ****tards anymore. You think tha majority of "educated" people are liberal. Well, NEWSFLASH for you, DUmbasses, those of us that have degrees in the hard sciences? Yeah, we look down on your worthless jokes of ****ing degrees. There's a reason you can't get a ****ing job, unless you already have a job teaching theory. Me? I have a business degree in information technology. I'm skrate. You ****ers with sociology, AA studies, or Womyn's studies? Can ****ING starve for all I care.

Go play in traffic, DUmbasses. You just thrust upon the nation another 4 years of an illiterate jackass that has our U3 rate at 7.9% (yeah right), U6 of close to 18%, 10+ million on food stamps, 3 straight years of over a 1 trillion dollar deficit, a 16 trillion dollar debt, gas prices over 3.00, food prices rising, etc., etc., etc.

You DUmbasses enjoy your victory. Me? I'm arming up so I can deal with your cretins when they start to riot and loot like they're doing in Greece because this shit IS NOT SUSTAINABLE.

Yeah what he said.  :-)

Oh and DUmmies,
:ownit:

Title: Re: Ohioans’ food stamp aid to be reduced; Benefit to fall $50 a month starting in J
Post by: YupItsMe on November 13, 2012, 08:23:33 PM
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sunwyn (351 posts)
3. I recieve food stamps in Ohio and yes

this will be devastating. I have been unemployed for 4 plus years and while I managed to live off my savings for 3 years, I finally had to apply or go hungry. I have an allotment of 200 dollars a month as I have no income though I have to hitchhike to the job center and put in so many hours a month. Jobs are still few and far between here. To top it off - the garden that I planted last Spring and looked so promising early on, crumbled to dust as the temps soared and the rain was non-existent. I have nothing left to sell and live with my elderly mother because she can no longer manage on her own. I am close to just giving up....

OK, so now I'm completely confused.  She's been unemployed 4+yrs,  but but "The Won" has been in charge for 4 yrs.  "The private sectors is just fine"   Also, no rain.  I thought he was going to heal the planet.   Wait after clser observation, I think this is a mole.  Had savings and looking for work.  Dead giveaway.  Some signs of self sufficiency there.  Nice post anyway.  Got a lot of sympathy.  
Title: Re: Ohioans’ food stamp aid to be reduced; Benefit to fall $50 a month starting in J
Post by: Rebel on November 13, 2012, 08:32:21 PM
Fixed it for you, Yup. [ not {  :-)
Title: Re: Ohioans’ food stamp aid to be reduced; Benefit to fall $50 a month starting in J
Post by: Rebel on November 13, 2012, 08:36:23 PM
Oh, and...

Got a lot of sympathy.  

I don't. Matter of fact, I have zero. Tell you what, I have about as much compassion for a DUmbass as I do a member of Al Qaeda that wants to bring my country down. Don't care about how many of you BS me for that; Progs are more of a threat to our nation than any Al Qaeda member. It's not a joke anymore. The destruction of this nation and our founding principles have gone from being widdled down, to being taken down by a Stihl chainsaw. Our government is now at war with the basic concept of the pursuit of happiness. NO private business in this country should be at war with the government that supposed to represent them.
Title: Re: Ohioans’ food stamp aid to be reduced; Benefit to fall $50 a month starting in J
Post by: Mr Mannn on November 13, 2012, 08:46:53 PM
Rebel, I prefer to Hi5 you instead. I completely understand what you are saying and agree.

I don't like the idea of watching my country collapse. The democrats I work with believe everything will go on like it always has. But they are from a generation that has never had to fight or suffer pain a single day. They have no idea what reality is, or that its coming right at them at warp speed.

No sympathy from me either.
Title: Re: Ohioans’ food stamp aid to be reduced; Benefit to fall $50 a month starting in J
Post by: Freeper on November 13, 2012, 08:55:01 PM
Oh, and...

I don't. Matter of fact, I have zero. Tell you what, I have about as much compassion for a DUmbass as I do a member of Al Qaeda that wants to bring my country down. Don't care about how many of you BS me for that; Progs are more of a threat to our nation than any Al Qaeda member. It's not a joke anymore. The destruction of this nation and our founding principles have gone from being widdled down, to being taken down by a Stihl chainsaw. Our government is now at war with the basic concept of the pursuit of happiness. NO private business in this country should be at war with the government that supposed to represent them.

Okay one BS for you. Not that I disagree, but you asked for one.  :-)
Title: Re: Ohioans’ food stamp aid to be reduced; Benefit to fall $50 a month starting in J
Post by: BEG on November 13, 2012, 09:39:27 PM
What is a "nontraditional student"?
Title: Re: Ohioans’ food stamp aid to be reduced; Benefit to fall $50 a month starting in J
Post by: GOBUCKS on November 13, 2012, 09:40:59 PM
What is a "nontraditional student"?
Middleaged deadbeat.
Title: Re: Ohioans’ food stamp aid to be reduced; Benefit to fall $50 a month starting in J
Post by: Rebel on November 13, 2012, 11:25:01 PM
Okay one BS for you. Not that I disagree, but you asked for one.  :-)

Yeah. This is all a joke.  ::) I'm looking at the macro implications and I think most conservatives are looking at the micro implications and thinking, hmm. it's only 4 years. This isn't a joke. We're done as a nation. Do you realize this fool will have possibly 2 Supreme Court nominations? And that the Senate, which approves nominations, is controlled by Democrats? WE ARE ****ED. Think I'm not ready to sign the petition? ****it. Moonbats, you can have it. You are NOT getting Georgia. I'm WELL-armed as are the rest of my fellow Georgians.
Title: Re: Ohioans’ food stamp aid to be reduced; Benefit to fall $50 a month starting in J
Post by: BlueStateSaint on November 14, 2012, 04:20:32 AM
Oh, and...

I don't. Matter of fact, I have zero. Tell you what, I have about as much compassion for a DUmbass as I do a member of Al Qaeda that wants to bring my country down. Don't care about how many of you BS me for that; Progs are more of a threat to our nation than any Al Qaeda member. It's not a joke anymore. The destruction of this nation and our founding principles have gone from being widdled down, to being taken down by a Stihl chainsaw. Our government is now at war with the basic concept of the pursuit of happiness. NO private business in this country should be at war with the government that supposed to represent them.

Agree 100%, and I'm H5ing you now.  I'll do so again when I get to work.
Title: Re: Ohioans’ food stamp aid to be reduced; Benefit to fall $50 a month starting in J
Post by: Freeper on November 14, 2012, 05:53:23 AM
Yeah. This is all a joke.  ::) I'm looking at the macro implications and I think most conservatives are looking at the micro implications and thinking, hmm. it's only 4 years. This isn't a joke. We're done as a nation. Do you realize this fool will have possibly 2 Supreme Court nominations? And that the Senate, which approves nominations, is controlled by Democrats? WE ARE ****ED. Think I'm not ready to sign the petition? ****it. Moonbats, you can have it. You are NOT getting Georgia. I'm WELL-armed as are the rest of my fellow Georgians.

I never said it all was a joke. When times are tough we need a little bit of humor more than ever. I refuse to become as humorless and bitter as the DUmmies are.

Trust me I know how serious this is. I'm not so much worried about the impact on me as I am on my children. Just thinking of a world without freedom that they may grow up in makes me sick to my stomach. But I have hope that if we can't fix it that they will.



Title: Re: Ohioans’ food stamp aid to be reduced; Benefit to fall $50 a month starting in J
Post by: Tucker on November 14, 2012, 05:54:00 AM
I'm paying a lot more and buying less these days....some things have doubled since Obummer took office.

Gas has went up .30 since the election. I don't see it going down anytime soon.
Title: Re: Ohioans’ food stamp aid to be reduced; Benefit to fall $50 a month starting in J
Post by: SSG Snuggle Bunny on November 14, 2012, 07:56:32 AM
Anytime you take a finite amount of revenue and divide it by an increasing number of "beneficiaries" you will have to cut the amount of benefits per person collecting or deny benfits to some.

We're not allowed to deny benfits so all who ask shall receive.

Ergo the amount per person is reduced.

It's simplle ****ing math.

And don't tell us "tax the rich!"

They're already paying for your liberal arts degree, birth control and electric cars.
Title: Re: Ohioans’ food stamp aid to be reduced; Benefit to fall $50 a month starting in J
Post by: Rebel on November 14, 2012, 08:00:05 AM
Anytime you take a finite amount of revenue and divide it by an increasing number of "beneficiaries" you will have to cut the amount of benefits per person collecting or deny benfits to some.

We're not allowed to deny benfits so all who ask shall receive.

Ergo the amount per person is reduced.

It's simplle ****ing math.

And don't tell us "tax the rich!"

They're already paying for your liberal arts degree, birth control and electric cars.


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By Adrian Krieg

WAKE-UP CALL AMERICA - 1998 (Why Socialism always results in tyrannical rule)
 
 
The Controlling Elite Love Socialism for the People-Control Properties of the System, But for the Average Citizen the Results Have Always Been Disastrous.

In the 20th century there have been numerous political systems, but in the latter half of the century there were only two survivors, Socialism and Capitalism. So we have at this time in the Western world, which for all practical purposes controls the world, two opposing political systems. (I have already previously stated that there is no basic difference between socialists and communists. There are, however, some very important factors relating to socialism of which you should be aware. Socialism will not work in a free market economy and, as a consequence it invariably deteriorates into a totalitarian state. Anyone wishing to argue that point is asked to point to one single instance where this was not the result).

It therefore behooves us to remember who the worst despotic governments of this century were: Nazis in Germany, Fascists in Italy, Communists in the USSR, [Romania, East Germany, Bulgaria, Hungary, Yugoslavia, Czechoslovakia, Poland, Cuba, North Korea, Cambodia, Vietnam, etc.] and China - each and every one of them a paragon of socialist endeavor. Their leaders; Hitler, Mussolini, Stalin [Ceausescu, Tito, Pol Pot, etc.] and Mao Tse Tung. The outstanding legacy of these individuals is that they each tried to out-do the others in the total number of their own citizens which they murdered. It is a fact that each of these men killed more of their own civilian citizens than they lost in military conflict.

The reason for this is inherent to socialism. It promises things that it cannot possibly deliver. When socialist politicians in power come to the realization that it is impossible to deliver on their promises and political unrest develops, they have two options if they plan to stay in power. First, they must locate a scapegoat on whom they can blame their inability to deliver. Any Jew can tell you who that was for the Germans and the Russians. The second is to develop, and rapidly so, a state security apparatus to keep them in office - the SS, the KGB, [Securitate, Stasi] etc.

The basic tenants of socialism are:
1. Seduce the populace into accepting the government as the arbitrator of all problems; government from cradle-to-grave
2. Begin delivering on those services to make the citizens dependent
3. Take away the citizens' guns
4. Increase taxes on all services while destroying any free market alternative services
5. Blame the chosen scapegoat for the inability to meet demand for services
6. Have the centralized national police force round up any dissidents
 

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Socialism cannot work because the cost of services must be collected in the form of taxes, and this is not a sustainable possibility. The reason is that since government pays for all services, neither the producer nor the consumer cares about the cost, and hence there is an uncontrolled spiral of inflation (today's medical costs are a case in point and healthcare is not yet totally socialized). Furthermore, the government has no funds or assets. It only has the funds it confiscated from its citizens. The total inefficiency of a centralized bureaucracy does not help either.
Once citizens are weaned on this cradle-to-grave concept and are no longer self-reliant, they become wards of the state and will not accept any reduction of services. The government subsequently has no option but to reduce services, and as popular resistance develops State repression begins. This is the socialist cycle. It has been found to occur in every socialist state in existence to date.

The current most outrageous examples of this are North Korea and Cuba. These two societies share much in common - both are socialist, both are totalitarian, both have more political prisoners then any nation close to their size, both have non-working universal health care, in both the citizens suffer malnutrition, and both have food and fuel rationing. Their leaders and party members, in the meantime, eat caviar and drink champagne.

Socialism can never work in any environment.  It violates human nature and logic.
 

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The capitalist economic system differs greatly from its socialist adversary in numerous ways. While the socialist system is a top down centralized arrangement, the capitalist system, which can only exist in a free market economy that recognizes the right of private property, is totally controlled by the market itself. Interestingly, personal freedom, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness can also only thrive in free market economies. Capitalism is a sort of volatile and confusing situation where the capital markets dictate demand, price, and methods of distribution. The reason that the left is so very successful in criticizing capitalism is because it is not regulated and therefore difficult to explain. The reason capitalism works so well is that demand dictates production as well as price, thus avoiding market inequities and shortages.
Socialism's principal theorem is centralization of markets under government control. This has never worked and there is not one single instance in world history where centralized governmental market manipulation has been successful. This, however, does not deter the Robert Reichs (America's socialist Secretary of Labor who said, "Greedy corporations are screwing their employees, squeezing down wages while increasing profits." This statement, from an economic illiterate who has never in his entire life worked for, or in, a business that made a profit. He appears to me to be a little man with a Napoleon complex, who, while having no clue about anything to do with economics, presents himself as a great expert. Corporate downsizing, mergers, and staff reductions has a great deal to do with international trade policies, NAFTA, EC, WTO, etc. and very little to do with greed.) of this world, who continuously make every effort to centralize economic as well as social and political power for themselves and their Satori masters (the ruling elite).

George Washington said it best: "Government, like fire, is a good servant, but a fearful master." All capitalist functions are directed at free market concepts. A free market is one that serves society with little government interference. This concept is unpopular with the Satori because in order to attain more and more power they require centralization of all economic, social, and political functions. Because of their poor performance in the political frame they have altered their modus operandi and are now implementing their schemes through judicial activism. These judicial incursions, which by the way, in the United States are in violation of constitutional law, have been sold to the public based on the false misnomer that greedy capitalists don't care about the people, their welfare, safety, or health, but that politicians do.

This, without doubt, is a ludicrous statement. The capitalist must perform to market standards. Competition will put him out of business if he provides an inferior product or service. He is furthermore constrained by his customers, stockholders, board of directors, lending institutions, as well as numerous laws, and, if all else fails, product liability statutes. In addition there is a veritable alphabet soup of governmental agencies which oversee his product, conduct with employees, public safety, product safety, environmental compliance, and financial performance.

In fact capitalists are over-regulated, which causes a considerable burden to be put on the public in the form of increased prices. A noteworthy fact is: the most egregious acts against the consumer, the environment, and the public in general, have all been made by socialist states.

We have over a century of research and observation to back this up (Cuba, North Korea, USSR) but the DUmmies just sit there stupidly thinking, "Well, that's because WE'VE never tried it." Idiots.
Title: Re: Ohioans’ food stamp aid to be reduced; Benefit to fall $50 a month starting
Post by: marv on November 14, 2012, 10:44:40 AM
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sunwyn (351 posts)
13. Thank you....I will never understand so many people's lack of compassion

When did giving away somebody else's hard earned money become "compassion"?