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radhika Donating Member (447 posts) Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Jun-16-11 03:12 PM
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Another Nail: NJ Dems Vote to Strip Union Rights
h/t to Paleo over at DailyKos.
I have no words, read for yourselves.
http://www.njspotlight.com/stories/11/0616/0319/
My favorite kind of posts. Hey DUmmies, while wasting your time in WI everywhere else unions are being dumped. By your own party. :loser:
Cyrano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Jun-16-11 03:17 PM
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2. This ain't my father's Democratic Party
Edited on Thu Jun-16-11 03:22 PM by Cyrano
You're right, radhika. Words fail me too.
NJ Dems against unions. A Dem president getting into two more possible wars (Libya and Yemen). A Democratic Party that wouldn't stand behind Anthony Weiner who committed no crime. Not a word from our "leaders" about jobs.
But they're going to want us at the polls at election time. I really have no idea what it is I'll be voting for.
The donkey, be a good DUmmie and vote for who you are told to vote for.
FiveGoodMen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Jun-16-11 03:35 PM
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7. We need a new party.
Edited on Thu Jun-16-11 03:36 PM by FiveGoodMen
This one isn't worth a damn.
And we need this website to become SomethingBetterThanDemocraticUnderground.com
...and with that 5gudmen has been put on the watch list. TS is incoming.
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The NJEA has been running commercials the past few months about Christie, now they'll be running ads against the Democrats LOL. BTW the ads are horrible, and people in NJ are fed-up with the unions.
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Thu Jun-16-11 04:18 PM
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3. Too bad the party is throwing its lot in with the wrong people.
There will not be any victory in that.
The wrong people? you mean the ones who pay the bills? over $8,000 a year in property taxes and ours are considered cheap.
mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Thu Jun-16-11 04:33 PM
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6. And that is the problem but how do we get the politicians to hear us
short of replacement and running ourselves? I do not see any other way currently.
Do you really think the Democrats would do this if the majority in the State agreed with the Unions?
Bandit (1000+ posts) Thu Jun-16-11 04:51 PM
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10. Dollars
It's all about the dollars... We, you and I, and even the Unions just can't do what Wall Street and the bankers can do when it comes to giving money..The ONLY thing I have is my vote and they take that for granted... I have news for them.. If they act like Republicans then it makes no difference whether they win or a Republican wins..
Wall Street isn't fleecing the taxpayers of NJ, but the Unions are.
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Wall Street isn't fleecing the taxpayers of NJ, but the Unions are.
You got that right.
By the way, madam, an interesting statistic.
Every year, the Omaha World-Herald checks into something; about how much of Nebraska is owned by non-Nebraskans.
Are you aware that New Jerseyans own almost as much of Nebraska, as do Nebraskans themselves?
New Jerseyans own more of Nebraska than people from any of the other states.
It's been true since the 1870s, New Jersey ownership of Nebraska.
Youse guys are perceptive investors, and quite obviously, it's paid off.
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You got that right.
By the way, madam, an interesting statistic.
Every year, the Omaha World-Herald{/i] checks into something; about how much of Nebraska is owned by non-Nebraskans.
Are you aware that New Jerseyans own almost as much of Nebraska, as do Nebraskans themselves?
New Jerseyans own more of Nebraska than people from any of the other states.
It's been true since the 1870s, New Jersey ownership of Nebraska.
Youse guys are perceptive investors, and quite obviously, it's paid off.
I never knew that at all frank. My Husband would up and move out of the State if it wasn't for me, but I feel like we're going to be run out of the State if taxes continue to rise.
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My Husband would up and move out of the State if it wasn't for me, but I feel like we're going to be run out of the State if taxes continue to rise.
Well, madam, if I were your husband, I'd want to keep you happy too.
I did notice one thing in an earlier post you made somewhere here--you guys pay $8,000 in property taxes on an ordinary house in New Jersey?
Damn.
We're supposed to be the king of property taxes (since so few people to tax, one turns to taxing property, of which there's a surplus), but I've never in my life heard of anybody paying anything near that amount in property taxes.
Damn.
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Well, madam, if I were your husband, I'd want to keep you happy too.
I did notice one thing in an earlier post you made somewhere here--you guys pay $8,000 in property taxes on an ordinary house in New Jersey?
Damn.
We're supposed to be the king of property taxes (since so few people to tax, one turns to taxing property, of which there's a surplus), but I've never in my life heard of anybody paying anything near that amount in property taxes.
Damn.
We're a little over $8,000 a year now for a small house and hardly any property, we have friends that are over $12,000 a year so our property taxes are considered "cheap". The average in NJ a couple of years ago I think was a little over $7,000. In NJ the "wealthy" Counties aka Republican Counties have part of their taxes taken to fund the schools in the "poorer" Counties aka Democrat Counties to make it "fair". And the part that really stinks is the fact that homes were re-evaluated a few years ago at the height of the market so our property taxes skyrocketed, now that the market has fallen? our home has fallen maybe $150,000 in value and our taxes are still the same.
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We're a little over $8,000 a year now for a small house and hardly any property, we have friends that are over $12,000 a year so our property taxes are considered "cheap". The average in NJ a couple of years ago I think was a little over $7,000. In NJ the "wealthy" Counties aka Republican Counties have part of their taxes taken to fund the schools in the "poorer" Counties aka Democrat Counties to make it "fair". And the part that really stinks is the fact that homes were re-evaluated a few years ago at the height of the market so our property taxes skyrocketed, now that the market has fallen? our home has fallen maybe $150,000 in value and our taxes are still the same.
Whoa.
Now, I have to tell you something. I do income taxes.
I don't do income taxes for wealthy people who have CPAs for that; only for ordinary people.
I know nothing about real-estate values; I never bothered paying attention.
Property taxes in Nebraska are considered onerously high, outrageously high.
The county clerk in each county collects property taxes for towns, counties, and schools, and then sends the money to the appropriate place; i.e., there is only one property tax statement, not three.
Remember, Nebraska is considered a high-property-tax state.
All of the property-tax statements I've seen, when doing income taxes, range from circa $600 to $800.
I've never in my life seen one into four figures, not even $1,000.01.
Remember, Nebraska is considered a high-property-tax state.
Eight thousand bucks boggles this mind.
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Whoa.
Now, I have to tell you something. I do income taxes.
I don't do income taxes for wealthy people who have CPAs for that; only for ordinary people.
I know nothing about real-estate values; I never bothered paying attention.
Property taxes in Nebraska are considered onerously high, outrageously high.
The county clerk in each county collects property taxes for towns, counties, and schools, and then sends the money to the appropriate place; i.e., there is only one property tax statement, not three.
Remember, Nebraska is considered a high-property-tax state.
All of the property-tax statements I've seen, when doing income taxes, range from circa $600 to $800.
I've never in my life seen one into four figures, not even $1,000.01.
Remember, Nebraska is considered a high-property-tax state.
Eight thousand bucks boggles this mind.
That's why a lot of middle class and lower middle class are fleeing the State, going to Pennsylvania, North Carolina and now Delaware. My Husband would love to live on a farm in Maine, we could get a house there for maybe 1/3 if what it is here and property taxes for maybe $800 a year.
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That's why a lot of middle class and lower middle class are fleeing the State, going to Pennsylvania, North Carolina and now Delaware. My Husband would love to live on a farm in Maine, we could get a house there for maybe 1/3 if what it is here and property taxes for maybe $800 a year.
It's hard to believe Pennsylvania's a "better" option.
But Maine needs more (R)s, and it's close enough to family in New York and New Jersey.
I think your husband's a smart man; you should really consider that.
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It's hard to believe Pennsylvania's a "better" option.
But Maine needs more (R)s, and it's close enough to family in New York and New Jersey.
I think your husband's a smart man; you should really consider that.
He's been wanting to do it for decades, but my Mom is older now and his Mom is getting up there, they both have health problems and they're both widows, if we move it would mean uprooting everyone because no way could we leave them here. I would just have a hard time adjusting though to neighbors a mile away LOL, I'm used to having everything 5 minutes away, his Cousin lives up there in the woods and it's a half hour to the closest store.
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Remember, Nebraska is considered a high-property-tax state.
All of the property-tax statements I've seen, when doing income taxes, range from circa $600 to $800.
That would be low even in red state hell, but there are no sod houses here. No sod, either.
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That would be low even in red state hell, but there are no sod houses here. No sod, either.
Well, remember the socio-economic class which provides most of my own income-tax work; working people of modest means, usually a two-story four- or five-bedroom bungalow built perhaps 60 years ago, sitting on a plot of ground about, I guess, 200' x 300'.
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"By your own party".
They are trying desperately to buy their own party...
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That would be low even in red state hell, but there are no sod houses here. No sod, either.
The big one is the property tax on motor vehicles.
I guess we really hurt.
Airwolf here, who lives in Iowa but is a native Nebraskan, can back me up on this; property taxes on Nebraska motor vehicles are stratospherically high.
When I was still down in Lincoln, I had an income tax customer, a Vietnamese guy who was a welder, who'd just moved to Nebraska from Texas. He had some late-model luxury vehicle (I forget what kind; to me, a car is a car is a car......) which at the time (1998 or 1999) had cost him $25 to register and license down there.
He had to pay about $1100 to get it registered and licensed in Nebraska.
Our colleague Airwolf can back me up on this.
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It's hard to believe Pennsylvania's a "better" option.
But Maine needs more (R)s, and it's close enough to family in New York and New Jersey.
I think your husband's a smart man; you should really consider that.
PA is not better. We paid $5000 last year in property taxes and are by no means wealth. Our house is assessed at less than $200,000.
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$8,000 in property taxes would be a deal-breaker for me. We simply don't have the $8K to pay in a year. My BIL's is $12,000. And this in a crappy little northern town, nothing special (Maseena). It's not like it's oceanfront or near a glamorous, bustling city. What's it pay for? Every other vehicle is a cop car. Containing folks with some very cushy benefits & retirement.
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You got that right.
By the way, madam, an interesting statistic.
Every year, the Omaha World-Herald checks into something; about how much of Nebraska is owned by non-Nebraskans.
Are you aware that New Jerseyans own almost as much of Nebraska, as do Nebraskans themselves?
New Jerseyans own more of Nebraska than people from any of the other states.
It's been true since the 1870s, New Jersey ownership of Nebraska.
Youse guys are perceptive investors, and quite obviously, it's paid off.
It's a Jersey thing.
(http://www.dotsperiod.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/South-Park-Jersey-Shore1.jpg)
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It's a Jersey thing.
Right; this absentee landlord thing, in places where there's not a whole lot of people, not enough people to own all that's in the place.
I was surprised to learn some time ago that H.M. the Queen owns substantial agricultural land in Mississippi.
And it's an old joke about how Minnesota "owns" North Dakota, and Iowa "owns" South Dakota.
Or that Wall Street "owns" Montana.
It's actually true, but all one can do is joke about it.
The New Jersey connection with Nebraska evolved from the Western Union telegraph lines and Union Pacific railway line spanning Nebraska during the 1860; at the time, Nebraska had less than 10,000 people (circa 16,000 if one counted the Native Americans), and somebody had to pay for the ownership and construction and maintenance of these things, as Nebraskans themselves obviously couldn't.
In succeeding decades, it went on to New Jersey ownership of Nebraska corporations (stockholders) and real-estate.
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Right; this absentee landlord thing, in places where there's not a whole lot of people, not enough people to own all that's in the place.
I was surprised to learn some time ago that H.M. the Queen owns substantial agricultural land in Mississippi.
And it's an old joke about how Minnesota "owns" North Dakota, and Iowa "owns" South Dakota.
Or that Wall Street "owns" Montana.
It's actually true, but all one can do is joke about it.
The New Jersey connection with Nebraska evolved from the Western Union telegraph lines and Union Pacific railway line spanning Nebraska during the 1860; at the time, Nebraska had less than 10,000 people (circa 16,000 if one counted the Native Americans), and somebody had to pay for the ownership and construction and maintenance of these things, as Nebraskans themselves obviously couldn't.
In succeeding decades, it went on to New Jersey ownership of Nebraska corporations (stockholders) and real-estate.
...and how obnoxious assholes from Ohio own Hilton Head Island, SC.
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We're a little over $8,000 a year now for a small house and hardly any property, we have friends that are over $12,000 a year so our property taxes are considered "cheap". The average in NJ a couple of years ago I think was a little over $7,000. In NJ the "wealthy" Counties aka Republican Counties have part of their taxes taken to fund the schools in the "poorer" Counties aka Democrat Counties to make it "fair". And the part that really stinks is the fact that homes were re-evaluated a few years ago at the height of the market so our property taxes skyrocketed, now that the market has fallen? our home has fallen maybe $150,000 in value and our taxes are still the same.
Bally, we're still a shade under 3k here on the edge of Atlantic county . . . praying we aren't reassessed as has been threatened
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I pay around $2000 a year here (Cali). We got lucky passing prop 13, but the Dims are CONSTANTLY trying to repeal it as it's "unfair" to schools, the poor, blah, blah..........
Everytime they try we the voters shoot it down. :yahoo:
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Well, in red state hell, our taxes are dirt cheap, and car registrations only cost $50 per year (plus $10 for the stupid, worthless democrat emissions test).
People up north pay astronomical sums in taxes to their democrat union-controlled state and local governments.
I'm sure, though, that they get to enjoy a whole menu of services that we can only dream about.
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.....plus $10 for the stupid, worthless democrat emissions test.
During the late 1970s, early 1980s, Nebraska had something like this, an annual automotive check-up and inspection. The job was done by any service station, and the fee was a state-mandated $12.50.
It was a pain in the ass, because if one went to a service station hungry for the mechanical business, they'd look at things more closely than was decent, hoping to find something they'd be hired to fix.
This inspection had no, zero, zilch effect on anything, anything at all (the environment, accident rates, automobile safety and longevity), and so finally the state legislature dumped it.
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Well, in red state hell, our taxes are dirt cheap, and car registrations only cost $50 per year (plus $10 for the stupid, worthless democrat emissions test).
People up north pay astronomical sums in taxes to their democrat union-controlled state and local governments.
I'm sure, though, that they get to enjoy a whole menu of services that we can only dream about.
Guess again. :banghead:
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Bally, we're still a shade under 3k here on the edge of Atlantic county . . . praying we aren't reassessed as has been threatened
I can't tell you how many times we've been tempted to move to the southern part of the state for taxes alone.
BTW, I'm shocked you weren't re-assessed, I thought that was a state wide thing but I guess it wasn't. Lucky for you because the market has gotten so bad, ours was done at the height of the market UGH!
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Here's part of a transcript of Chris Christie from Piers Morgan's show:
MORGAN: One of your most famous residents recently who was complimentary and scathing about you in equal measure. And I won't say who it was. Where she was scathing when she said, if he believes so much in the education system in this state, why doesn't he send his children to a public school?
CHRISTIE: Well, that's none of her business. That's my choice, and my wife's choice. We happen to believe that a religious education is an important part of an overall education for our children. So, we've decided to send our children to Catholic school because we believe that.
It's no shot on the public schools. I'm a graduate of the public schools. My wife's a graduate of parochial schools.
When our child became 5 years old, I wanted him to go to public school. She wanted him to go to parochial school. All of our kids go to parochial school.
So, you can figure out who wields the power in the Christie household.
And so -- but I've come to agree with her that I think it's an important part of our children's growth as human beings. And so, we've made that choice.
But guess what? I still pay $38,000 a year in property taxes, most of which go to the public school system in my town. And we don't utilize it. And I don't complain about it because that's my responsibility as a citizen of my town and my state.
But then don't tell me that I can't be serious about public education because I don't send my children there. Every child is my responsibility in this state. And that's the kind of liberal know- nothing thinking that just drives me crazy.
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Bandit (1000+ posts) Thu Jun-16-11 04:51 PM
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10. Dollars
It's all about the dollars... We, you and I, and even the Unions just can't do what Wall Street and the bankers can do when it comes to giving money..The ONLY thing I have is my vote and they take that for granted... I have news for them.. If they act like Republicans then it makes no difference whether they win or a Republican wins..
Wall Street and bankers have their own union?
Cindie
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I can't tell you how many times we've been tempted to move to the southern part of the state for taxes alone.
BTW, I'm shocked you weren't re-assessed, I thought that was a state wide thing but I guess it wasn't. Lucky for you because the market has gotten so bad, ours was done at the height of the market UGH!
keeping our fingers crossed for sure! It's a 100 yr old house and is assessed very low so I know it's going to go up if they get around to doing it.
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keeping our fingers crossed for sure! It's a 100 yr old house and is assessed very low so I know it's going to go up if they get around to doing it.
In the reassessments in some parts of the northern part of the state people were actually penalized ie their taxes went up higher if they didn't do improvements to their home ie go to the towns enough and pay for permits to do upgrades on their homes, the newer the home and the more improvements done the lower the tax increase. Is that insane or what?
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If you care, there's a DUmp thread about Christie's "none of your business" comment. I didn't read it, so I don't know if it's entertaining or not.
GOBUCKS, I'm trying to think of a service you're missing out on that Carl, BSS and I enjoy. Hmm. Hmm. Ummm. Just looking in the phone book, we have:
Education Department of Vocational & Education Services for Individuals with Disabilities Office
Human Rights Division of AIDS Discrimination
Banking Department, Holocaust Claims Processing Office (?)
Customer Relations, Mental Health Office :lmao:
Public Service Department of Consumer Complaints (bet they really care)
Emergency hotline for when the Power Company shuts you off for nonpayment
Consumer Education and Advocacy (Buyer Beware. Now cut this stupid program + staff)
Human Rights Division of Sex Discrimination
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If you care, there's a DUmp thread about Christie's "none of your business" comment. I didn't read it, so I don't know if it's entertaining or not.
GOBUCKS, I'm trying to think of a service you're missing out on that Carl, BSS and I enjoy. Hmm. Hmm. Ummm. Just looking in the phone book, we have:
Education Department of Vocational & Education Services for Individuals with Disabilities Office
Human Rights Division of AIDS Discrimination
Banking Department, Holocaust Claims Processing Office (?)
Customer Relations, Mental Health Office :lmao:
Public Service Department of Consumer Complaints (bet they really care)
Emergency hotline for when the Power Company shuts you off for nonpayment
Consumer Education and Advocacy (Buyer Beware. Now cut this stupid program + staff)
Human Rights Division of Sex Discrimination
Add catsmtrods and possibly FreeBorn to that list of those who also "enjoy" those services.
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If you care, there's a DUmp thread about Christie's "none of your business" comment. I didn't read it, so I don't know if it's entertaining or not.
Thank You! reading it now and will post!
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If you care, there's a DUmp thread about Christie's "none of your business" comment. I didn't read it, so I don't know if it's entertaining or not.
GOBUCKS, I'm trying to think of a service you're missing out on that Carl, BSS and I enjoy. Hmm. Hmm. Ummm. Just looking in the phone book, we have:
Education Department of Vocational & Education Services for Individuals with Disabilities Office
Human Rights Division of AIDS Discrimination
Banking Department, Holocaust Claims Processing Office (?)
Customer Relations, Mental Health Office :lmao:
Public Service Department of Consumer Complaints (bet they really care)
Emergency hotline for when the Power Company shuts you off for nonpayment
Consumer Education and Advocacy (Buyer Beware. Now cut this stupid program + staff)
Human Rights Division of Sex Discrimination
See? Far as I know, we don't get any of that good stuff.
Whenever I need to report some AIDS discrimination, I never have a clue who to call.
And red state hell is not where you want to be if you need Holocaust claims processed.
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The big one is the property tax on motor vehicles.
I guess we really hurt.
Airwolf here, who lives in Iowa but is a native Nebraskan, can back me up on this; property taxes on Nebraska motor vehicles are stratospherically high.
When I was still down in Lincoln, I had an income tax customer, a Vietnamese guy who was a welder, who'd just moved to Nebraska from Texas. He had some late-model luxury vehicle (I forget what kind; to me, a car is a car is a car......) which at the time (1998 or 1999) had cost him $25 to register and license down there.
He had to pay about $1100 to get it registered and licensed in Nebraska.
Our colleague Airwolf can back me up on this.
What Frank says is true. Not to mention that recently Omaha tried to levy a wheel tax on non residents that work in Omaha. Problem is their is a state law that says only the State can do that and only under certain circumstances and a wheel tax isn't one of them. Now days it can cost a good penny to register your car in Nebraska but even more so in Omaha when you add their Wheel tax and their property tax as well. Well above $700 dollars isn't unheard of nowdays.
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During the late 1970s, early 1980s, Nebraska had something like this, an annual automotive check-up and inspection. The job was done by any service station, and the fee was a state-mandated $12.50.
It was a pain in the ass, because if one went to a service station hungry for the mechanical business, they'd look at things more closely than was decent, hoping to find something they'd be hired to fix.
This inspection had no, zero, zilch effect on anything, anything at all (the environment, accident rates, automobile safety and longevity), and so finally the state legislature dumped it.
The down side is that rates on Insurance went up and I have seen alot of cars that were best left back at the studios where they film the MAD MAX movies.
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What Frank says is true. Not to mention that recently Omaha tried to levy a wheel tax on non residents that work in Omaha. Problem is their is a state law that says only the State can do that and only under certain circumstances and a wheel tax isn't one of them. Now days it can cost a good penny to register your car in Nebraska but even more so in Omaha when you add their Wheel tax and their property tax as well. Well above $700 dollars isn't unheard of nowdays.
Aha. Confirmation.
And a reminder to those who once in a while see a Nebraska license-plate.
Even if it's a beat-up old rusted 1986 Buick running on three cylinders, those two Nebraska license-plates might as well be gold-plated, for all that they cost.
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He had to pay about $1100 to get it registered and licensed in Nebraska.
Just for annual registration? Must be due to most Nebraskans getting six-figure checks from that ethanol scam.
The roads in that part of America must really be paved with gold.
Here in red state hell, a car that costs $1100 to BUY is upscale.
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Just for annual registration? Must be due to most Nebraskans getting six-figure checks from that ethanol scam.
The roads in that part of America must really be paved with gold.
Here in red state hell, a car that costs $1100 to BUY is upscale.
I forget what it was; he was a little Vietnamese guy--but a great welder--and this was a top-of-the-line Cadillac (I think, but I'm only guessing), about six months old when he moved to Nebraska. He was really proud of that vehicle, but wept upon receiving the bill for the registration of it.
That is annual registration.
Twenty-five bucks down in Texas, $1100 in Lincoln, Nebraska.
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Twenty-five bucks down in Texas, $1100 in Lincoln, Nebraska.
Sounds like the city fathers of Lincoln are trying to make the "light rail" scam viable.
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The roads in that part of America must really be paved with gold.
It's the problem of too few people (and hence automobiles), and many miles of road.
And Nebraska, being in the center of America, needs to have all sorts of roads and highways, for people rushing from New York City to San Francisco, from Seattle to Miami, and all points in between.
We aren't really fond of being the crossroads of America, because we're having to build and maintain all these roads for people who aren't going to spend any money in Nebraska, other than perhaps $40 for gasoline and $1 for a 44-ounce soda, on their ways to and from somewhere besides Nebraska.
If any of them would stop and settle, we'd have more to share the burden of automotive taxes, and hence lower taxes per capita. But everybody's just passing through, not moving here.
The Rapid City, South Dakota, and the Denver, Colorado, business interests want a four-lane highway built between those two cities, so as to facilitate commerce that, obviously favors South Dakota and Colorado, and Nebraska hardly at all.
The current highway between Rapid City and Denver is fine, but they want four lanes, despite that one can drive for half an hour in the panhandle of Nebraska without seeing another car on the road.
The federal government (i.e., the hard-pressed American taxpayers) is willing to pay 80% the cost of construction of this highway, nearly all of which would be inside the borders of Nebraska, but Nebraska refuses to bite. We know how it works.
Once the thing would be completed, Nebraska would be responsible for maintenance and further improvements on a highway that benefits South Dakota and Colorado, but not us.
Too few Nebraska-registered motor vehicles, too many miles of roads. That's why automotive-related taxes and fees are so high.
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$1,100 for registration? OMG! we pay anywhere from $45-$75 for our cars annually.
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$1,100 for registration? OMG! we pay anywhere from $45-$75 for our cars annually.
Well, that was for a superdeluxe 6-month-old expensive motor vehicle, madam.
As our esteemed colleague Airwolf recently told us, the "usual" is around $500-700 a year.
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Years ago, I recall hearing that California registration cost was 2% of the car's book value, which sounded exorbitant. At the time I was paying $20. But $1100 per year is crazy, regardless the type of vehicle or the number of road miles.
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Years ago, I recall hearing that California registration cost was 2% of the car's book value, which sounded exorbitant. At the time I was paying $20. But $1100 per year is crazy, regardless the type of vehicle or the number of road miles.
It would've been higher if he'd bought the vehicle in Nebraska, rather than Texas.
There's the 5% state sales tax (plus any local sales tax if one) that's paid at the time of registration.
However, there is a faint silver lining here. Every year, one has to pay less and less (it works out that way even if property taxes were raised inbetweentimes), and if one owns a motor vehicle long enough, or buys it when it's old, the annual registration is within a reasonable amount. The first year is when it hits, and then it diminishes.
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Hey Bally, I LOVE this! :cheersmate:
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Hey Bally, I LOVE this! :cheersmate:
(http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/jj140/RepublicanandProud/coexistsized.jpg)
Thanks! I wish I could take credit for it but I swiped it from someone at FR. It's such a coincidence because that morning I saw 1 of those freaking COEXIST bumper stickers and I was like UGH! I had those darn bumper stickers, that afternoon I was reading FR and what pops up in the thread? a modified bumper sticker that I could support LOL.
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This is another version of that but I think I like yours better.
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(http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRadKTLVgIbJ0QuJgfbagYBndFIN5x5HBNCtYIfAnhZ4P9vsrspVA)
This is another version of that but I think I like yours better.
That's good too!
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That's good too!
I like this one.
(http://www.motifake.com/image/demotivational-poster/1010/coexist-demotivational-poster-1286427725.jpg)
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:lmao:
When I saw the COEXIST bumper sticker the other day, can you believe they still had the Kerry/Edwards bumper sticker on their car?
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:lmao:
When I saw the COEXIST bumper sticker the other day, can you believe they still had the Kerry/Edwards bumper sticker on their car?
I still have a hard-sided gun case with a "W '04" sticker on it. I see "W - Still The President" stickers pretty often.
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I still have a hard-sided gun case with a "W '04" sticker on it. I see "W - Still The President" stickers pretty often.
We actually don't see bumper stickers that often, I saw a few when Obama was running even though our County is heavily Republican, but now it's pretty rare that I see a political bumper sticker, either pro or against Obama.