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Offline dutch508

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Sources have told the Guardian...
« on: November 30, 2021, 09:05:54 AM »
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Star Member kpete (68,289 posts)
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Hours ahead of 1/6 Attack-Trump made several calls from WH to top lieutenants at Willard Hotel
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”…a direct line from the White House and the command center…”

Sources have told the Guardian that just hours before the deadly attack on the US Capitol this year, Donald Trump made several calls from the White House to top lieutenants at the Willard hotel in Washington to discuss ways to stop or delay the certification of Joe Biden’s election win from taking place on 6 January.

The former president relayed that his vice-president, Mike Pence, was reluctant to go along with the plan to commandeer his largely ceremonial role at the joint session of Congress in a way that would allow Trump to retain the presidency for a second term.

He then pressed his aides about how to stop Biden’s certification from taking place, and delay the certification process to get alternate slates of electors for Trump sent to Congress.

Why is this significant? Trump’s remarks reveal a direct line from the White House and the command center at the Willard. The conversations also show Trump’s thoughts appear to be in line with the motivations of the pro-Trump mob that carried out the Capitol attack.

When did Trump make the calls? He phoned his lieutenants at the Willard sometime between the late evening on 5 January and the early hours of 6 January.....

'Sources'

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Star Member gab13by13 (5,535 posts)

1. Is it legal for DOJ

to go to a FISA court or other court to get the data on the calls? never mind, executive privilege or something else.

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Star Member EYESORE 9001 (19,437 posts)

2. Seems we can't PAY the corporate media in this country for coverage like this

Good for the UK Guardian for bringing us news the cowards here give scant attention.

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Star Member gab13by13 (5,535 posts)

9. It isn't the right wing narrative.

Without the data on those calls it's useless. Trump can claim he called to tell them to protest peaceably or maybe called to tell Bannon to take a shower before coming to the insurrection er rally.

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Star Member Haggard Celine (14,275 posts)

3. And there it is.

He orchestrated the whole thing. He might not have known every little detail, but it was all done at his request. It's always seemed more than likely that he did it, but there's testimony now. There's no reason not to indict his ass.

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Star Member Baitball Blogger (40,031 posts)

8. Sounds like the mob was getting intelligence from the White House and members of the

House and Senate. Trump put a target on Pence's back.

A regular tourist day, my ass.

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Star Member cstanleytech (23,166 posts)

13. You wont get an indictment let alone a conviction. Why?

Because the phone calls discussing ways to try and block Bidens certification are not evidence that he helped orchestrate the attempted insurrection itself.
Now, do I personally think he was involved? Yes, but that is simply my personal opinion.

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Star Member Boomerproud (5,086 posts)

4. Are domestic media too afraid of this story?

Hell, it's only our Constitution and freedom at risk.

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Lonestarblue (4,668 posts)

10. Why are these "multiple sources" afraid to go public with their information?

The president of the United States committed insurrection, a crime punishable by fines and imprisonment. I would think if they have any patriotism they would be knocking on Garland’s door at least (and perhaps they have—it’s just frustrating to see nothing after a crime was committed nearly a year ago).

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Star Member yardwork (53,199 posts)

7. Does Merrick Garland know this?

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Star Member gab13by13 (5,535 posts)

11. The Boebert lady

was seen giving Capitol tours to seditionists pre 1/6, has the FBI or secret service talked to her?

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Star Member bucolic_frolic (27,847 posts)

18. The key to Insurrection #2 is to bury the records from Insurrection #1

That will allow them to do better next time. That's why TFG is trying to prevent the House Select Committee on Jan 6 from getting his records.

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Re: Sources have told the Guardian...
« Reply #1 on: November 30, 2021, 09:13:36 AM »
And if you look closely, you can see Kyle Rittenhouse dual-wielding illegal machine guns, and provoking the crowd and negating self-defense.  :whatever:

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2. Seems we can't PAY the corporate media in this country for coverage like this

Good for the UK Guardian for bringing us news the cowards here give scant attention.

Please. You get endless lies and slander against your opposition for free.   

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Re: Sources have told the Guardian...
« Reply #2 on: November 30, 2021, 09:30:38 AM »
Consider the sources:

The Guardian

Annoymorous, probably rectal, "sources"

Queen of Meme kpete
If, as anti-Covid-vaxxers claim, https://www.poynter.org/fact-checking/2021/robert-f-kennedy-jr-said-the-covid-19-vaccine-is-the-deadliest-vaccine-ever-made-thats-not-true/ , https://gospelnewsnetwork.org/2021/11/23/covid-shots-are-the-deadliest-vaccines-in-medical-history/ , The Vaccine is deadly, where in the US have Pfizer and Moderna hidden the millions of bodies of those who died of "vaccine injury"? Is reality a Big Pharma Shill?

Millions now living should have died. Anti-Covid-Vaxxer ghouls hardest hit.