Security Theater... (nadinbrzezinski)

[CC27]

nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list    Sun Jun-05-11 10:37 PM
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Security Theater...
   
We were treated to another example of how much we engage in security theater. We went to visit family in Hawaii... and I used points to upgrade to First Class. I wanted to use points to buy the whole passage but red, tape from the airline... (not shocking or surprising either)

So here we are in FIRST CLASS... long flight... dinner time....

What do they give us? Well a menu, a nice offering of wines (we don't drink)... plenty of coffee, peanuts... you know what they used to do in coach.

But here is the piece d' resistance....

The fish... and hubby's pasta came in nice CHINA... we were given REAL glass ware... and nice, somewhat sharp... KNIVES... yep, all the things that you are not supposed to bring on board.

Given some of the 911 high jackers were on first class...

Now I will not go into how you could use all these things... suffice it to say we were well armed.

And yes been saving points for literally two decades... and when we go visit family I will try to use them to upgrade to FC or buy tickets.

She's here... cue the poltergeist music. WTF is she talking about? WTF is security theater?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x1234689

[JakeStyle]

This should clear it up:

nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list    Mon Jun-06-11 12:16 AM
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12. Oh this was one more of those situations
   
Glasses, sure, we NEED to let you on... a cane... (need I say more about a potential weapon?) But these were provided. This is the ahem... limit of comedy.

Another airline, (got the upgrade) they served food in the same plastic trays they used to use in coach... and no glass, knives or china. That I COULD get... this... was really funny in a way.

And it is theater beyond the glasses by the way... lets just say there are things that are NOT done in the US that our neighbors sought of the border do that are NOT theater. They just cost a lot of money and ARE personnel intensive. I have felt much safer flying out of a Mexican Airport, even BEFORE 911.
   

[ScubaGuy]

She's here... cue the poltergeist music. WTF is she talking about? WTF is security theater?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x1234689

Security Theater is the DUmmie term for putting down the TSA efforts in passenger screening.

To some extent I agree with them since a few of the TSA regulations concerning carry-on items are silly.  For a time you couldn't bring lighters through security, but once you were on the other side you could go into any of the shops or bars and purchase lighters or get free matches.  I left a load of lighters at various airports and often wondered if there was a good money making opportunity that I missed.  Set up a kiosk at security and for 25 cents you give me your lighter, I give you a ticket that allows you pick up a used lighter at your destination.

[BlueStateSaint]

Security Theater is the DUmmie term for putting down the TSA efforts in passenger screening.

I thought it was an offshoot of MST 3000 . . . 

[FiddyBeowulf]

I thought it was an offshoot of MST 3000 . . . 

It would probably be just as effective. 

[CC27]

Security Theater is the DUmmie term for putting down the TSA efforts in passenger screening.

To some extent I agree with them since a few of the TSA regulations concerning carry-on items are silly.  For a time you couldn't bring lighters through security, but once you were on the other side you could go into any of the shops or bars and purchase lighters or get free matches.  I left a load of lighters at various airports and often wondered if there was a good money making opportunity that I missed.  Set up a kiosk at security and for 25 cents you give me your lighter, I give you a ticket that allows you pick up a used lighter at your destination.

Thanks for clearing that up. With the DUmmies you never know which end is up. Security theater could have meant how to hide your pot in DUmmie speak. 

[USA4ME]

nadinbrzezinski

lets just say there are things that are NOT done in the US that our neighbors sought of the border do that are NOT theater

Who knew that Mexicans were "our neighbors sought of the border"?  Yeah, they sought it alright, and find it a long time ago.

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[GOBUCKS]

First Class, even as an upgrade, is a ripoff if the plane has a Business Class section. It's nice, and you can lie down flatter to sleep on really long flights, but the price is exorbitant for the difference. Business is always a better deal unless someone else is paying, or if you're so wealthy and irresponsible that you don't mind wasting a few thousand dollars. If the flight is over three hours or so, and the plane doesn't have Business Class, then First Class makes more sense. Long haul flights almost always use equipment that includes Business Class.

The other purpose of First Class, which is why nutcase nadin mentions it prominently, is to impress people. It's great to rub the noses of unemployed, unemployable, and minimum wage DUmp democrats in your supposed affluence. Pam would love this post, if she were still with us.

I hope nadin got a real thorough pat down from the 'Murkin security.

[AprilRazz]

If I really wanted to do someone harm there are tons of things on an airplane that I could use. That is what my first world military training taught me you stupid twat.

[Skul]

...I hope nadin got a real thorough pat down from the 'Murkin security.

Not a chance in hell, Sir.
Even TSA folks wouldn't want to touch that one.

[DLR Pyro]

The other purpose of First Class, which is why nutcase nadin mentions it prominently, is to impress people. It's great to rub the noses of unemployed, unemployable, and minimum wage DUmp democrats in your supposed affluence. Pam would love this post, if she were still with us.

That was what came to my mind as to her real reason for posting her thread.  I'm sure she was wracking her pea brain from the time she upgraded to 1st class to somehow post this and show how "upper crust" she is.  She must has pissed her pants in glee when dinner was served with the aformentioned weapons of mass destruction  which gave her reason to create the post in the first place and gloat over how she got to fly with the grown ups in a big  shiny aero-plane.

[thundley4]

Hasn't DUmmie nadinletters posted multiple threads about her trip to Hawaii?  I recall one whining about her relatives and another about visiting some scenic place in Hawaii.

[beefeater]

How about allowing the Captain of the aircraft to arm themselves and the crew and hold a Captains Mast for any trouble makers on the flight? I can imagine that a few low altitude plank walkings or even a keelhauling below a 757 would eliminate the need for the entire TSA.

As that SW airlines jet with the moonroof has shown, that old myth of Goldfinger getting sucked out of the window is bunk, a stray bullet wouldn't do that much damage for f*cks face.

[FlippyDoo]

It's hard to believe someone gave her a knife. And yes...I mean sharp or not sharp. With her vast knowledge think of all the things she could do with a knife. Even McGuyver is envious of nadin's knowledge.

[BlueStateSaint]

It's hard to believe someone gave her a knife. And yes...I mean sharp or not sharp. With her vast knowledge think of all the things she could do with a knife. Even McGuyver is envious of nadin's knowledge.

Flippy, . . . is TiT envious of her knowledge?

[Randy]

When I flew on 9/14 and 9/17 they were confiscating pocket knives at OIA security. Then you'd take the tram over to the terminal where knives were available at the restaurants. But to make it even sweeter they gave you one on the plane with your coach class meal. Not that anyone was going to be able to do anything at that point anyways. We all watched each other like hawks

[GOBUCKS]

I have felt much safer flying out of a Mexican Airport, even BEFORE 911.

Well, now, this really calls nutcase nadin's judgement into question. I've flown countless times from Mexico City and other, even less civilized, locations in Central and South America. Even though I was headed back to the civilized world, travelling on American flagged aircraft, I never felt very safe. It has nothing to do with terrorism, which is so rare one could more reasonably live in fear of a lightning strike, or a bite from a bushmaster.

Nope, it's poisoning. Anyone who travels into the area between the south shore of the Rio Grande River and the southernmost rock on Cape Horn is a fool if he doesn't guard himself every second from the bacterial and parasitic plague that infests every square inch of that landmass. Even in First Class, in an American Airlines aircraft, seated beside nutcase nadin, you are a fool if you drink an iced drink after takeoff from Mexico City, or if you eat the fresh salad with your meal. It was catered by a Latin American vendor.
 
I've had three different associates who scoffed at those precautions, and travelled for years with no problem, only to one day throw snake eyes with an iced drink or fresh fruit or vegetable at a fine restaurant or hotel, or on an airliner. Two of them were deathly ill for weeks. The locals are apparently innoculated against these poisons, if they survive infancy, due to constant exposure.

I've always told people that when you shower in a Latin American hotel, no matter how luxurious, keep your eyes closed, and put duct tape over your mouth. Those "purified water" signs they always display mean nothing.

[LC EFA]

First class my ass.

Animals travel cargo.

[FlippyDoo]

Flippy, . . . is TiT envious of her knowledge?

That's actually a tough question to answer because they are such different individuals. Tit has all of that SEAL, Green Beret, Space Ranger training so he actually has her outclassed with pure fighting knowledge and ability, but nadin has the edge in overall knowledge. If he could catch her in a sterilized room, he would win the fight. But if she can lay her hands on any object, he is toast. For instance, she knows 79.3 ways to disembowel a man with a single blade of grass. And yes...I said grass.

[GOBUCKS]

That's actually a tough question to answer because they are such different individuals. Tit has all of that SEAL, Green Beret, Space Ranger training so he actually has her outclassed with pure fighting knowledge and ability, but nadin has the edge in overall knowledge. If he could catch her in a sterilized room, he would win the fight. But if she can lay her hands on any object, he is toast. For instance, she knows 79.3 ways to disembowel a man with a single blade of grass. And yes...I said grass.

TiT could scrape more intelligence from under his fingernails than nadin will ever have.
He was the most talented writer and storyteller in DUmp history.

[Evil_Conservative]

Now I will not go into how you could use all these things... suffice it to say we were well armed.

You are so dumb.  My two year old daughter could figure out how to injury someone with a fork. 

[NHSparky]

Hmmm...let's see here...AA Advantage Gold member here, and the ex was Platinum.  I still have enough active miles to get two tickets between here and Hawaii if I want.

I've been to Europe twice commercially.  We bought coach seats from LA to London, and upgraded with miles both times.  777's Business Class are better than any other airlines First Class I've flown, including trips to/from Hawaii.

Bottom line, nadinyouaintgota****ingclue, is that you get a coach seat on a flight that doesn't have a high occupancy, get you and hubby in a aisle/window seat with the middle seat open, and viola! more room than you would have had otherwise in First.  So who gives a shit if you had to pay $7 for a sandwich (credit card only, no cash!) or only get to lean back 6 inches.  And FWIW, the food in First ain't all that, and so what if you get a metal fork?

BTW--Pauly Shore was in the row ahead of me on a flight from LA to Boston.  IN COACH.  Oh, how the mighty have fallen.

[GOBUCKS]

Hmmm...let's see here...AA Advantage Gold member here, and the ex was Platinum.  I still have enough active miles to get two tickets between here and Hawaii if I want.

I've been to Europe twice commercially.  We bought coach seats from LA to London, and upgraded with miles both times.  777's Business Class are better than any other airlines First Class I've flown, including trips to/from Hawaii.

Bottom line, nadinyouaintgota****ingclue, is that you get a coach seat on a flight that doesn't have a high occupancy, get you and hubby in a aisle/window seat with the middle seat open, and viola! more room than you would have had otherwise in First.  So who gives a shit if you had to pay $7 for a sandwich (credit card only, no cash!) or only get to lean back 6 inches.  And FWIW, the food in First ain't all that, and so what if you get a metal fork?

BTW--Pauly Shore was in the row ahead of me on a flight from LA to Boston.  IN COACH.  Oh, how the mighty have fallen.

Once on a flight from Buenos Aires to Miami, I spent a bazillion miles to upgrade, which was nice because that's a long flight.  But during the flight I got up to take a stroll around the plane to stretch my legs. Business and First Class were full, but there couldn't have been more than 20 people in coach, on a 747. Every person could have five center section seats with the armrests folded up, making a flat bed, and this was an overnight flight. I felt like I'd paid a lot for a ditty bag, some champagne, and a couple of drinks.