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Holy Land!?? WTF?
« on: January 28, 2008, 11:08:31 PM »
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Jed Dilligan  (1000+ posts)    Mon Jan-28-08 09:52 PM
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Holy Land!?? WTF?
   
How is it okay for a president to use that phrase?
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Re: Holy Land!?? WTF?
« Reply #1 on: January 28, 2008, 11:12:14 PM »
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skater314159  (333 posts)       Mon Jan-28-08 10:52 PM
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24. Awww jeez!
 
Can't the pre-trib people go to their god already? Geez!
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BuffyTheFundieSlayer  (1000+ posts)        Mon Jan-28-08 11:01 PM
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28. I wish they would
 Life would be a mite-darn easier, for sure.


I hope that does not mean what i think it means.  :o
"When you see that trading is done, not by consent, but by compulsion - when you see that in order to produce, you need to obtain permission from men who produce nothing - when you see that money is flowing to those who deal, not in goods, but in favors - when you see that men get richer by graft and by pull than by work, and your laws don't protect you against them, but protect them against you - when you see corruption being rewarded and honesty becoming a self-sacrifice - you may know that your society is doomed."

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Re: Holy Land!?? WTF?
« Reply #2 on: January 28, 2008, 11:12:54 PM »
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BobbyVan  (21 posts)    Mon Jan-28-08 11:32 PM
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31. Bill Clinton: "Consider the Holy Land..."
   
"Consider the Holy Land, the home of the three great religions of the world who all believe we are all created in the image of one God, our Creator, our Judge. How shall He judge us for keeping on killing each other into the 21st century because we're different from somebody else?"

Bill Clinton, 1996

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Re: Holy Land!?? WTF?
« Reply #3 on: January 28, 2008, 11:14:41 PM »
Yeah no one has ever referred to that part of the world as "Holy Land" untill that fundy Bush did.  :whatever:

The things that piss the primitives off just baffles me.
I may not lock my doors while sitting at a red light and a black man is near, but I sure as hell grab on tight to my wallet when any democrats are close by.

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Re: Holy Land!?? WTF?
« Reply #4 on: January 28, 2008, 11:17:59 PM »
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Djinn  (1000+ posts)      Mon Jan-28-08 09:59 PM
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13. easy
 the vast majority of Americans have an incredibly biased view of the Occupied Territories and Palestinian people and an incredibly backwards view on religion and see no problem with one nation claiming land and illegally occupying it on the basis of a 2000 year old fairy tale.

Any bets that Djinn thinks the United Nations is a good thing?  :loser:

Any bets that Djinn thinks the freedoms enjoyed by Israel vs the tyrany of Palistine should be a factor in choosing sides?

Any bets on weather or not Djinn has the capasity to think at all?
 
"When you see that trading is done, not by consent, but by compulsion - when you see that in order to produce, you need to obtain permission from men who produce nothing - when you see that money is flowing to those who deal, not in goods, but in favors - when you see that men get richer by graft and by pull than by work, and your laws don't protect you against them, but protect them against you - when you see corruption being rewarded and honesty becoming a self-sacrifice - you may know that your society is doomed."

- Ayn Rand
http://www.capmag.com/article.asp?ID=1826

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Re: Holy Land!?? WTF?
« Reply #5 on: January 28, 2008, 11:23:05 PM »
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Djinn  (1000+ posts)      Mon Jan-28-08 09:59 PM
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13. easy
 the vast majority of Americans have an incredibly biased view of the Occupied Territories and Palestinian people and an incredibly backwards view on religion and see no problem with one nation claiming land and illegally occupying it on the basis of a 2000 year old fairy tale.

Any bets that Djinn thinks the United Nations is a good thing?  :loser:

Any bets that Djinn thinks the freedoms enjoyed by Israel vs the tyrany of Palistine should be a factor in choosing sides?

Any bets on weather or not Djinn has the capasity to think at all?
 


Funny he doesn't mind the fairy tales of the other side.  :whatever:
I may not lock my doors while sitting at a red light and a black man is near, but I sure as hell grab on tight to my wallet when any democrats are close by.

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Re: Holy Land!?? WTF?
« Reply #6 on: January 28, 2008, 11:26:51 PM »
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Djinn  (1000+ posts)      Mon Jan-28-08 09:59 PM
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13. easy
 the vast majority of Americans have an incredibly biased view of the Occupied Territories and Palestinian people and an incredibly backwards view on religion and see no problem with one nation claiming land and illegally occupying it on the basis of a 2000 year old fairy tale.

Any bets that Djinn thinks the United Nations is a good thing?  :loser:

Any bets that Djinn thinks the freedoms enjoyed by Israel vs the tyrany of Palistine should be a factor in choosing sides?

Any bets on weather or not Djinn has the capasity to think at all?
 


Funny he doesn't mind the fairy tales of the other side.  :whatever:

Funny and stupid and ironic. But mostly funny.

Some are arguing use of the term "Holy Land" is a violation of Church and State. Really!  :mental: (begging the question, can a POTUS utter the words Los Angeles? Or is that a violation too?)  ::)
"When you see that trading is done, not by consent, but by compulsion - when you see that in order to produce, you need to obtain permission from men who produce nothing - when you see that money is flowing to those who deal, not in goods, but in favors - when you see that men get richer by graft and by pull than by work, and your laws don't protect you against them, but protect them against you - when you see corruption being rewarded and honesty becoming a self-sacrifice - you may know that your society is doomed."

- Ayn Rand
http://www.capmag.com/article.asp?ID=1826

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Re: Holy Land!?? WTF?
« Reply #7 on: January 28, 2008, 11:28:14 PM »
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Djinn  (1000+ posts)      Mon Jan-28-08 09:59 PM
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13. easy
 the vast majority of Americans have an incredibly biased view of the Occupied Territories and Palestinian people and an incredibly backwards view on religion and see no problem with one nation claiming land and illegally occupying it on the basis of a 2000 year old fairy tale.

Any bets that Djinn thinks the United Nations is a good thing?  :loser:

Any bets that Djinn thinks the freedoms enjoyed by Israel vs the tyrany of Palistine should be a factor in choosing sides?

Any bets on weather or not Djinn has the capasity to think at all?
 


Funny he doesn't mind the fairy tales of the other side.  :whatever:

Funny and stupid and ironic. But mostly funny.

Some are arguing use of the term "Holy Land" is a violation of Church and State. Really!  :mental: (begging the question, can a POTUS utter the words Los Angeles? Or is that a violation too?)  ::)

Would holy shit be a violation too?  :-)
I may not lock my doors while sitting at a red light and a black man is near, but I sure as hell grab on tight to my wallet when any democrats are close by.

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Re: Holy Land!?? WTF?
« Reply #8 on: January 28, 2008, 11:28:45 PM »
The Holy land to which the President referred has an open door policy to all peaceful men of faith, very much unlike the pigpin known as Mecca.  Since the DUmmies are all about inclusiveness, they should rejoice in knowing the place called The Holy Land is there for everyone.

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« Reply #9 on: January 28, 2008, 11:30:48 PM »
It's been called the Holy Land for thousands of years. Bush says it and.......
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Re: Holy Land!?? WTF?
« Reply #10 on: January 28, 2008, 11:40:05 PM »
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Djinn  (1000+ posts)      Mon Jan-28-08 09:59 PM
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13. easy
 the vast majority of Americans have an incredibly biased view of the Occupied Territories and Palestinian people and an incredibly backwards view on religion and see no problem with one nation claiming land and illegally occupying it on the basis of a 2000 year old fairy tale.

Any bets that Djinn thinks the United Nations is a good thing?  :loser:

Any bets that Djinn thinks the freedoms enjoyed by Israel vs the tyrany of Palistine should be a factor in choosing sides?

Any bets on weather or not Djinn has the capasity to think at all?
 


Funny he doesn't mind the fairy tales of the other side.  :whatever:

Funny and stupid and ironic. But mostly funny.

Some are arguing use of the term "Holy Land" is a violation of Church and State. Really!  :mental: (begging the question, can a POTUS utter the words Los Angeles? Or is that a violation too?)  ::)

Would holy shit be a violation too?  :-)

What about Paradise, Texas.
"When you see that trading is done, not by consent, but by compulsion - when you see that in order to produce, you need to obtain permission from men who produce nothing - when you see that money is flowing to those who deal, not in goods, but in favors - when you see that men get richer by graft and by pull than by work, and your laws don't protect you against them, but protect them against you - when you see corruption being rewarded and honesty becoming a self-sacrifice - you may know that your society is doomed."

- Ayn Rand
http://www.capmag.com/article.asp?ID=1826

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« Reply #11 on: January 28, 2008, 11:46:16 PM »
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME  (1000+ posts)       Tue Jan-29-08 12:40 AM
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37. Ummm, He Was Talking About The Holy Land. That's What It's Called.
 There were a WHOLE lot of things in his speech tonight that I could heavily criticize. His calling it the Holy Land? Not even CLOSE to being one of them.

Frankly, I find myself continually amazed at how some here take their bigotry towards anything religious to such ridiculous degrees. And I offer no apologies for my bluntness: Of all things to call him out for, to call out his calling the Holy Land the Holy Land, is beyond ridiculous. It comes off as amazingly petty and blatantly intolerant of anything that even whiffs of religion. The premise of the thread makes absolutely no sense whatsoever. I mean give me a break; you're really crying foul over his using the term Holy Land, which is what the area is known as and accepted as by probably 99% of the world's population? How silly. For real.


Buzzkill.    :tongue:
"When you see that trading is done, not by consent, but by compulsion - when you see that in order to produce, you need to obtain permission from men who produce nothing - when you see that money is flowing to those who deal, not in goods, but in favors - when you see that men get richer by graft and by pull than by work, and your laws don't protect you against them, but protect them against you - when you see corruption being rewarded and honesty becoming a self-sacrifice - you may know that your society is doomed."

- Ayn Rand
http://www.capmag.com/article.asp?ID=1826

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« Reply #12 on: January 29, 2008, 12:24:22 AM »
Once again, OMC is the voice of reason.  How he stands that cesspool is a mystery to me.
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« Reply #13 on: January 29, 2008, 01:37:04 AM »
Yeah no one has ever referred to that part of the world as "Holy Land" untill that fundy Bush did.  :whatever:

The things that piss the primitives off just baffles me.
Any belief in any higher power goes against their religion, the religion of government.
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« Reply #14 on: January 29, 2008, 07:38:45 AM »
I'm gonna be SO disappointed if I find out OMC is a mole.
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« Reply #15 on: January 29, 2008, 07:44:39 AM »
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Jed Dilligan  (1000+ posts)    Mon Jan-28-08 09:52 PM
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Holy Land!?? WTF?
   
How is it okay for a president to use that phrase?
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http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x2782578



here we go again..  :popcorn:

What an idiot. :mental:
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