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Current Events => Terrorism In the US and Around the World => Boston Marathon Bombing => Topic started by: thundley4 on April 30, 2013, 11:29:59 PM
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EXCLUSIVE: Saudi Arabia warned the United States IN WRITING about Boston Bomber Tamerlan Tsarnaev in 2012 and rejected his application for an entry visa to visit Mecca in 2011
The Kingdom of Saudi Arabia sent a written warning about accused Boston Marathon bomber Tamerlan Tsarnaev to the U.S. Department of Homeland Security in 2012, long before pressure-cooker blasts killed three and injured hundreds, according to a senior Saudi government official with direct knowledge of the document.
The Saudi warning, the official told MailOnline, was separate from the multiple red flags raised by Russian intelligence in 2011, and was based on human intelligence developed independently in Yemen.
Citing security concerns, the Saudi government also denied an entry visa to the elder Tsarnaev brother in December 2011, when he hoped to make a pilgrimage to Mecca. Tsarnaev's plans to visit Saudi Arabia have not been previously disclosed.
Daily Mail (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2317493/BOMBSHELL-Saudi-Arabia-warned-United-States-IN-WRITING-Tamerlan-Tsarnaev-2012-rejected-application-entry-visa-visit-Mecca-2011.html)
I'm beginning to think these brothers could have sent a registered letter with details of their plans and the Obama Regime would have ignored it.
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:banghead:
This administration has to go.
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Daily Mail (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2317493/BOMBSHELL-Saudi-Arabia-warned-United-States-IN-WRITING-Tamerlan-Tsarnaev-2012-rejected-application-entry-visa-visit-Mecca-2011.html)
I'm beginning to think these brothers could have sent a registered letter with details of their plans and the Obama Regime would have ignored it.
Agreed. Nappy is too busy chasing the RWs
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This makes two foreign governments that have warned about these terorists. I guess because they were not white blue eyed americans it was not important
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Daily Mail (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2317493/BOMBSHELL-Saudi-Arabia-warned-United-States-IN-WRITING-Tamerlan-Tsarnaev-2012-rejected-application-entry-visa-visit-Mecca-2011.html)
I'm beginning to think these brothers could have sent a registered letter with details of their plans and the Obama Regime would have ignored it.
he wouldn't have ignored it, he would have sent a reply asking them if they were comfortable living in OUR Country and ask if they needed any more public assistance.
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I had wondered about the dead terrorist's name.
From the article:
Tamerlan Tsarnaev's namesake was a 15-century Central Asian warlord who referred to himself as ‘the sword of Islam.’ Sometimes spelled 'Tamerlane' in English, he was known for his cruelty.
When he conquered Baghdad, he reportedly made a pyramid of human skulls from unfortunate residents of that city.
Although still revered in Chechnya and throughout Central Asia, the original Tamerlane is sometimes vilified in modern-day Saudi textbooks.
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2317493/Saudi-official-Kingdom-warned-United-States-IN-WRITING-Boston-Bomber-Tamerlan-Tsarnaev-2012-rejected-application-entry-visa-visit-Mecca-2011.html#ixzz2S3OSFbmx
Now, go ahead and tell me that the dead terrorist's parents are peace-loving, political refugees from Chechnya, desperately seeking asylum and a new home in a cherished country where opportunity awaits.
:killemall:
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I had wondered about the dead terrorist's name.
From the article:
Now, go ahead and tell me that the dead terrorist's parents are peace-loving, political refugees from Chechnya, desperately seeking asylum and a new home in a cherished country where opportunity awaits.
:killemall:
That's why they went back to Russia.
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The FBI, as we all know, suffers from terminal PC-itis:
Islamist Watch (IW) maintains an extensive archive of news items on nonviolent Islamism in the Western world. The complete collection can be found here; lists organized by topic are accessible on the right side of the IW homepage.
The IW database includes dozens of articles scrutinizing the many narratives, questions, and controversies to arise in the wake of the Boston Marathon bombings carried out by two Muslim immigrants, Tamerlan and Dzhokhar Tsarnaev. Several key developments are highlighted below:
Political correctness at the FBI
Following reports that Russian officials had contacted Washington about Tamerlan Tsarnaev's extremism years ago — warnings investigated and then set aside by the FBI — some suspect that political correctness paved the path to the attack. "The FBI can't talk about Islam and they can't talk about jihad," notes counterterrorism expert Sebastian Gorka, citing policies that de-emphasize radical Islam as a driver of violence. "I have zero doubt it affected their investigation of Tsarnaev," adds specialist Patrick Poole. Congressmen have voiced concerns as well.
The FBI also dropped the ball prior to the Fort Hood bloodbath. In that case, the Washington field office cautioned its San Diego counterpart that probing Nidal Hasan was a "politically sensitive" subject, and internal emails classified Hasan's messages to an al-Qaeda operative as mere "research." Furthermore, building on its record of Muslim outreach follies, the agency recently caved to Islamists on training and expunged "biased" materials. Its "Guiding Principles: Touchstone Document on Training" declares that if someone belongs to a group that engages in both violence and "constitutionally protected activities," the FBI must not assume that the person is involved in the former. As columnist Matthew Vadum opines, "It's not that much of an exaggeration to say that the FBI could not have done anything about Tsarnaev unless he strapped on a suicide vest in front of them, called them 'infidels,' and detailed his abominable plans."
Balance at the link.
http://www.islamist-watch.org/blog/2013/04/iw-news-brief-boston-and-the-aftermath-of-terror
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I had wondered about the dead terrorist's name.
From the article:
Now, go ahead and tell me that the dead terrorist's parents are peace-loving, political refugees from Chechnya, desperately seeking asylum and a new home in a cherished country where opportunity awaits.
:killemall:
I was thinking the same as well. Timur was called Timur the Lame as he was crippled from an injury in his childhood. Despite being crippled he was very cruel and killed many people in the neighbor of 14 to 30 million. He easily ranks right up there with other evil figures like Adolf Hitler, Joseph Stalin, Mao Zedong, Nero, and Pol Pot.
http://necrometrics.com/pre1700a.htm
http://www.bookofhorriblethings.com/ax01.html
http://moralcompassblog.com/2013/04/19/tamerlan-tamerlane-whats-in-a-slayers-name-a-muslim-warriors-systematic-use-of-terror/
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Why would our government read what Saudis send them? They don't even bother to read the laws they pass. :mad:
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Why would our government read what Saudis send them? They don't even bother to read the laws they pass. :mad:
Excellent point. h5
I suppose there's always hope that a sycophant about 9 layers down from Napolitano might actually have read the letter and dutifully reported it up through channels.
And then we can see how truly ate-up DHS/FBI/Foggy Bottom/rest of the alphabet soup is.
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I was thinking the same as well. Timur was called Timur the Lame as he was crippled from an injury in his childhood. Despite being crippled he was very cruel and killed many people in the neighbor of 14 to 30 million. He easily ranks right up there with other evil figures like Adolf Hitler, Joseph Stalin, Mao Zedong, Nero, and Pol Pot.
http://necrometrics.com/pre1700a.htm
http://www.bookofhorriblethings.com/ax01.html
http://moralcompassblog.com/2013/04/19/tamerlan-tamerlane-whats-in-a-slayers-name-a-muslim-warriors-systematic-use-of-terror/
The muslims and atheist have been busy thru the years.
â—¦World Christian Encyclopedia (2001): This book is the standard reference work for religious statistics of all kinds, and both Britannica and the World Almanac cite from it. It has a single page [http://gem-werc.org/gd/gd16.pdf] estimating the number of martyrs since the origin of each religion: â—¾Muslim martyrs: 80M
â—¾Christian martyrs: 70M â—¾20th Century: 45.4M
â—¾At the hands of...
â—¾Atheists: 31,689,000
â—¾Muslims 9,121,000
â—¾Ethnoreligionists: 7,469,000
â—¾Christians: 5,538,000
â—¾Quasi-religionists 2,712,000
â—¾Mahayana Buddhists: 1,651,000
â—¾Hindus: 676,000
â—¾Zoroastrians: 384,000
â—¾Hindu martyrs: 20M
â—¾Buddhist martyrs: 10M
â—¾Jewish: 9M
â—¾Ethnoreligious: 6M
â—¾Sikh: 2M
â—¾Baha'i: 1M
â—¾Other religious martyrs: 5M
â—¦ The book defines martyrs as 1.Believers in Christ (U.O.N.)
2.Who have lost their lives
3.Prematurely
4.In situations of witness
5.As a result of human hostility.
â—¦World Christian Trends by Barrett et al: Apparently this book gives more details about martyrdom statistics, but so far, I haven't found it in a library (even our local seminary), and I can't afford to buy it myself. (But see http://gem-werc.org/gd/listings.pdf) Here are some of the major episodes that I've been able to scrounge from websites and articles. Some of my sources have been somewhat ambiguous in their wording, so I honestly don't know whether they mean to say that the Amerindians and Baghdadians, for example, are meant as Christian martyrs or Muslim or Shamanist, or whether the various subclasses who died at Soviet or Nazi hands are already included in the largest number or meant to be added to it. â—¾Martyrdom at Soviet hands: â—¾1921-50: 15M Christians in prison camps
â—¾1950-80: 5M Christians in prison camps
â—¾Orthodox: 14.5M k. by Stalin, 2.7M of them martyrs (1929-37)
â—¾Roman Catholics (1925): 1.2M martyrs
â—¾By Mongols â—¾1214: Genghiz Khan massacres 6M Christians: 4M martyrs
â—¾1214: Diocese of Herat sacked by Genghiz Khan: 1M
â—¾1258: massacre in Baghdad by Hulaku Khan: 1.1M
â—¾1358: Tamerlane destroys 15-million-strong Nestorians: 4M martyrs
â—¾Conquistadors kill 15 million Amerindians: 2M martyrs (1560)
â—¾Christians executed by Nazis in death camps: 1M â—¾Nazis exterminate 0.5M Gypsies
â—¾Khmer Rouge slaughter 2M (1975)
â—¾Kurds massacre 20,000 Nestorians (1843)
â—¾Massacre of 40,000 Vietnamese Catholics (1970)
•The Ottawa Citizen (20 Dec. 1998) ◦15M Christians d. in Soviet prison camps because of their faith.
â—¦citing Paul Marshall, Their Blood Cries Out â—¾ca. 400,000 Chinese Christians died during the Cultural Revolution.
â—¾ca. 100,000 Christians k by Idi Amin (out of 300,000 total k.)
â—¾Up to 500,000 Rwandan Christians died as witnesses to their faith (out of 700,000 total k.) (1994)
•The Ottawa Citizen (6 Feb. 1993) ◦Citing D. Barret, Our Globe and How to Reach It ◾40M Christians martyred throughout history.
â—¾ca. 24M by secular governments and atheists
â—¾ca. 8M k. by other Christians
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FOX is breaking news right now, that three more suspects have been arrested in the Boston bombings.
I wonder if it was those guys tweeting about the bombings that was posted here the other day.
http://jesterscourt.cc/2013/04/23/boston-marathon-bombing-just-a-hunch/
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FOX is breaking news right now, that three more suspects have been arrested in the Boston bombings.
I wonder if it was those guys tweeting about the bombings that was posted here the other day.
http://jesterscourt.cc/2013/04/23/boston-marathon-bombing-just-a-hunch/
@J_Tsar – Tsarnaev – Well we know who he is, he’s the brainiac that is currently unable to talk because he unsuccessfully suicided himself, and is lying in hospital, after trying to escape on a boat with no water.
@TroyCrossley - played by himself – strangely he’s the leader of the Boston Truther campaign that’s trying to prove that Tsarnaev was setup and it’s all a government conspiracy. Hmmmm.
@XxJungaxX – Junes Umarov – I’m getting to that part.
Looks like one of the Boston Truthers, if not the leader is involved. This gets interesting.
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'Bama knew
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@XxJungaxX – Junes Umarov – I’m getting to that part.
Looks like one of the Boston Truthers, if not the leader is involved. This gets interesting.
Junes was suspected by one of the tweeters when he heard about the marathon bombings. Umarov is also the same last name of the radical Islamist in Russia that they call the Russian bin Laden.
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FOX is breaking news right now, that three more suspects have been arrested in the Boston bombings.
I wonder if it was those guys tweeting about the bombings that was posted here the other day.
http://jesterscourt.cc/2013/04/23/boston-marathon-bombing-just-a-hunch/
Yup if you followed Flashbang's tweets Troy and Junes sure looked suspicious but it's just tweets, who knows.
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@TroyCrossley - played by himself – strangely he’s the leader of the Boston Truther campaign that’s trying to prove that Tsarnaev was setup and it’s all a government conspiracy. Hmmmm.
the tweet was there now its gone. Ive no idea if it's a hoax.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BJMZFGSCEAAlzvI.png:large)
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Yup if you followed Flashbang's tweets Troy and Junes sure looked suspicious but it's just tweets, who knows.
troyâ€@TroyCrossley20 Mar
@J_tsar yo i heard u n @xXjungaXx were poppen fireworks
Jaharâ€@J_tsar @TroyCrossley @xxjungaxx I'm still around till Sunday, we can do more damage I got some more left
https://twitter.com/J_tsar/status/314547898165633024
HANOVER — March 27, 2013
Police and fire investigators are trying to determine who has been setting off a series of homemade explosives near Route 53 in recent weeks.
Blanchard declined to describe the devices recovered March 12, saying he did not want others to try to reproduce them. He said they appeared to have been powerful enough to cause serious damage, particularly if they were discovered by an unsuspecting person.
“If you were in close proximity to it when it went off, it could kill you,†he said.
http://www.patriotledger.com/news/x711938623/Hanover-bombs-a-mystery-to-police
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the tweet was there now its gone. Ive no idea if it's a hoax.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BJMZFGSCEAAlzvI.png:large)
Oh my. Maybe he is one of them that was arrested today. :shrug:
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I wonder!!!
Apparently the three are suspected of taking computers and other equipment from Flashbang’s apartment and trying to dispose of evidence after the bombings.
I wonder how much we spent of food stamps, section 8, college tuition and obamaphones on this muzzie crop?
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I wonder!!!
Apparently the three are suspected of taking computers and other equipment from Flashbang’s apartment and trying to dispose of evidence after the bombings.
I wonder how much we spent of food stamps, section 8, college tuition and obamaphones on this muzzie crop?
Whatever it was, it was far too much. We are entirely TOO ACCOMMODATING for foreigners.
At this point, this warm 'n fuzzy bullshit...
“The New Colossus†by Emma Lazarus
Not like the brazen giant of Greek fame,
With conquering limbs astride from land to land;
Here at our sea-washed, sunset gates shall stand
A mighty woman with a torch, whose flame
Is the imprisoned lightning, and her name Mother of Exiles.
From her beacon-hand
Glows world-wide welcome; her mild eyes command
The air-bridged harbor that twin cities frame.
“"Keep, ancient lands, your storied pomp!"†cries she
With silent lips. “Give me your tired, your poor,
Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me,
I lift my lamp beside the golden door!â€
...isn't worth the powder to blow it to hell.
**** 'em.
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Yes, I believe in shutting down all mosques. It wouldn’t be a violation of the Constitution protecting freedom of religion, because Islam is not merely a religion, but a “political system.â€
The other day I read that we have roughly 15,000 people from hostile Muslim countries on student visas that haven’t shown up to their schools.
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I wonder!!!
Apparently the three are suspected of taking computers and other equipment from Flashbang’s apartment and trying to dispose of evidence after the bombings.
I wonder how much we spent of food stamps, section 8, college tuition and obamaphones on this muzzie crop?
Another can of worms to open. This is what happens when you have a government that is too big to have control over itself. It's bad enough when money slips through the cracks, but to have terrorists slip through is another story.
What I want to know is why the Boston police were left out of the loop with these jihadists. Shouldn't the first responders know who is living in their towns? None of this makes any sense to me.
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Yes, I believe in shutting down all mosques. It wouldn’t be a violation of the Constitution protecting freedom of religion, because Islam is not merely a religion, but a “political system.â€
The other day I read that we have roughly 15,000 people from hostile Muslim countries on student visas that haven’t shown up to their schools.
One of the few times that I've agreed with Bob Beckel is when he said we need to stop letting people in from Muslim countries on student visas.
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What I want to know is why the Boston police were left out of the loop with these jihadists. Shouldn't the first responders know who is living in their towns? None of this makes any sense to me.
Good question. I will say though, even though I am in obamacountry I'm in a red county. If I had "terrorista" on my license plate I'd get hauled in.
Btw, Junes Umarov's twitter and instagram is shut down. The news just showed his photo but didn't confirm whether he was arrested or not.
How can Flash be innocent if the friends helped get rid of evidence? :whatever: The idiotic fanboys and fangirls are still singing
:kumbaya:
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One of the few times that I've agreed with Bob Beckel is when he said we need to stop letting people in from Muslim countries on student visas.
I was shocked that a liberal suggested cutting off Muslim students from coming to this country for some period of time. Thought it was an excellent suggestion.
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Another can of worms to open. This is what happens when you have a government that is too big to have control over itself. It's bad enough when money slips through the cracks, but to have terrorists slip through is another story.
"They are dangerous, but we’re not paying attention. We’re too busy laughing at Borat laughing at us while we Keep Up with the Honey Boo Boo-Dashians." ~ Debbie Schlussel link (http://www.debbieschlussel.com/62115/terrorista-1-other-kazakh-muslim-student-visa-violator-helped-tsarnaevs-scout-times-square-bomb-location/)
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Third suspect is Robel Phillipos.
Criminal Complaint against Philipos (http://www.courant.com/news/breaking/hc-html-pdf-criminal-complaint-against-robel-phillipos-20130501,0,3319886.htmlpage)
Criminal Complaint Against Dias Kadyrbayev And Azamat Tazhayakov (http://www.courant.com/news/breaking/hc-html-pdf-criminal-complaint-against-dias-kadyrbayev-and-azamat-tazhayakov-20130501,0,3003331.htmlpage)
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Third suspect is Robel Phillipos.
Criminal Complaint against Philipos (http://www.courant.com/news/breaking/hc-html-pdf-criminal-complaint-against-robel-phillipos-20130501,0,3319886.htmlpage)
Any word about the idiot from the twitter screen captures?
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Any word about the idiot from the twitter screen captures?
Nope. Maybe he's hiding in a boat?
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Third suspect is Robel Phillipos.
Criminal Complaint against Philipos (http://www.courant.com/news/breaking/hc-html-pdf-criminal-complaint-against-robel-phillipos-20130501,0,3319886.htmlpage)
It says it's a sealed complaint. What does that mean?
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Nope. Maybe he's hiding in a boat?
:lmao:
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Nope. Maybe he's hiding in a boat?
The new "Boat People".
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Any word about the idiot from the twitter screen captures?
I was following the girl @Luccy_21x and they (some of her tweet friends) were saying it was a photoshop????
Don't know about that. I find it suspect, that this kid is also a 911 truther, just like Jahar and his friends and that he (TroyCrossley), Jahar and the Junes Umarov guy were all tweeting about bomb explosions near Boston on the 12th of March.
It seems odd to me that the authorities don't know about all this, but if these kids knew about the bombs back then. why haven't they been interviewed by the FBI? They aren't the same ones that are in custody.
:shrug:
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Daily Mail (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2317493/BOMBSHELL-Saudi-Arabia-warned-United-States-IN-WRITING-Tamerlan-Tsarnaev-2012-rejected-application-entry-visa-visit-Mecca-2011.html)
I'm beginning to think these brothers could have sent a registered letter with details of their plans and the Obama Regime would have ignored it.
Similar to Nidal Hasan, he pretty much wore a sign saying he was going to kill people.
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I was following the girl @Luccy_21x and they (some of her tweet friends) were saying it was a photoshop????
I went to see and it looks like she closed her Twitter along with Junes and scores of others. I guess the scum likes to party it up cept when FBI looks at em.
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:loser:
SPRAED THE WORD
I have been working tirelessly for the last few days to try to find some way to demand that the United Nations investigate the possible involvement of the American government in the Boston Bombings on April 15th, 2013. We are also demanding that the subsequent events leading to the death of Tamerlan Tsarnaev on April 19th, 2013 and the arrest and injury of Dzhokhar Tsarnaev on April 20th, 2013 be thoroughly investigated. If the American government was truly involved they have violated the human rights set forth by the United Nations Human Rights Treaty.
They may have also violated the civil rights of Dzhokhar Tsarnaev that are guaranteed to him in the Constitution of the United States of America by detaining him for 3 full days without reading him his Miranda Rights. We have recently had a break through with our research, and we wanted to share what we have learned.
We have been advised by the United Nations that anyone that feels that the American government was involved should send an email here to file a complaint.
urgent-action@ohchr.org
I seriously doubt the UN would get involved. :mental:
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Why aren't Troy and Junes in jail with the other three?
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I dunno. Perhaps there isn't enough evidence yet. :mad:
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"They are dangerous, but we’re not paying attention. We’re too busy laughing at Borat laughing at us while we Keep Up with the Honey Boo Boo-Dashians." ~ Debbie Schlussel link (http://www.debbieschlussel.com/62115/terrorista-1-other-kazakh-muslim-student-visa-violator-helped-tsarnaevs-scout-times-square-bomb-location/)
Krakka, the Asian Muslims from Indonesia are going to be a problem to track down. Those that are from the big city's usually have a last name, those from small villages on one of the 1,000 islands have none.
I found this out when I began to wonder why so many temps used the last name of NFU and most of them came from different islands. So I did the Politically Incorrect, and bold faced asked one of them "Whats up with the name thing "?????
Here is what I was told and have no reason to disbelieve it.
Small villages everyone related no reason for a Sir name. At one time a few years back Christians would claim to be Muslim to emigrate to Europe or the Americas. They had to lie or supposedly convert to get out of their own country and into another.
Where does the Sir name come from this FNU, they said America gave them the name. WHAT ????
Mystery solved.
At a family gathering at Hubby's sister I asked questions about the Grandparents of the family and one of the husbands laughed and said Grandma was a WOP. I know that stands for --With out papers and Bingo, I had my answer the FNU stands for ----Family Name Unknown---.
So how to track down hard core Muslims in a country this size when thousands of immigrants have just one Name. To make it even more difficult many of them change their first name to Americanise themselves. Iswonshaw becomes Robert and for some reason the woman take the name Susan or Tammi Sue. Never met an Asian Named Vesta but I have not met any of any race with that name either.
Going to be a long haul for us born in the USA that are not Muslim. I do wonder about the Black Americans that go from a Christian family into following Farracon, where do they fit into this mix ????
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I dunno. Perhaps there isn't enough evidence yet. :mad:
They seemed to know about the trial run bombings in March. Even one guy blamed Junes Umarov for the marathon bombings. I don't get it. But it's obvious after all the agencies we have that had prior warrings ignored what they had then too.
We need a congressional hearing bringing all these agencies together to explain why they couldn't connect the dots.