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Current Events => General Discussion => Topic started by: Ralph Wiggum on December 09, 2022, 07:54:55 PM
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Hopefully this won't sound like a bouncy story, I promise. Certainly there are no tall tales, nor prefacing my post with "so", cops coming out from behind the bushes, nor any affirming applause.
Last Friday, could just feel that I had a nasty cold coming on. Even throughout the Chinese Wuhan Red Death period, I haven't had any semblance of a cold since January 2017. Only know the time frame because it was when I traveled to D.C. for President Trump's inauguration. To digress to the current issue, felt dreadfully awful last weekend, took some Mucinex, NyQuil, and suffered through. The exact same symptoms many of us have suffered through in our live, in other words no freaking big deal.
Called my boss late afternoon Sunday and asked if I could work remotely on Monday as I often do late in the calendar month when the monthly business cycle slows down. She approved and told me I sounded awful, and hopefully put in a few hours Tuesday and Wednesday when my physical presence would be actually necessary. Popped in Tuesday morning, did my usual due diligence and had an occasional coughing fit, semi-tempered with coffee and cough drops. Stayed until about 2:00 and dragged my tired butt home.
After I left the office, got an e-mail from the HR director, with whom I'm on a quite friendly basis. She "typed" that "Acme Incorporated has become aware that some of your co-workers are uncomfortable and concerned that you could have COVID-19, RSV, or the flu and should not be physically present in the office until you've been medically approved to do so". Now this is Grade-A HR corporate bullshit that she was typing to me to cover her ass and she knew it was. Which she acknowledged privately subsequently. Actually had one of those "free" at-home COVID tests and took the sucker and it was negative as expected.
My immediate boss really had nothing to opine, while still praising my work considering I kept doing my job either in person or remotely per usual. Started to feel a modicum better on Wednesday and went for a full day of work in a significant period in prior month-end closing process and did the same for Thursday and today.
With that having been said, why can't we all just have a damn freaking cold and not freak out about it anymore? :censored: :censored: :censored:
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Have you emailed a full-sized pic of your negative dipstick test to the jerkasoid HR twerp?
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With that having been said, why can't we all just have a damn freaking cold and not freak out about it anymore? :censored: :censored: :censored:
I agree with you Ralphie, even 'though we both really know the reason why.
One question ...
Just what do your 3 smilie :censored: emoticons stand for? :-)
Being of British heritage, my first two always stand for ...
"Bollocks" and "pish tosh", and the third one, that good old standby BS!!!
~ ABC
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Have you emailed a full-sized pic of your negative dipstick test to the jerkasoid HR twerp?
I don't send any dipstick pictures to anyone. :lmao:
Um, no. Nor was it required. She's a very cool gal who was probably responding to some whiny hypochondriac bitch in the office. As many of us have discovered, Human Resources departments have changed over the years to be FAR to overly proactive.
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I agree with you Ralphie, even 'though we both really know the reason why.
One question ...
Just what do your 3 smilie :censored: emoticons stand for? :-)
Being of British heritage, my first two always stand for ...
"Bollocks" and "pish tosh", and the third one, that good old standby BS!!!
~ ABC
The "censored" emoticons stand for whatever profanity you prefer. I've always enjoyed British profane terms, which many Americans don't understand. While I'm not a major Monty Python fan, I figure many Americans of a certain age have learned the British humor or "humour" via Python.
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The "censored" emoticons stand for whatever profanity you prefer. I've always enjoyed British profane terms, which many Americans don't understand. While I'm not a major Monty Python fan, I figure many Americans of a certain age have learned the British humor or "humour" via Python.
On my First visit to England I was riding a cab from the airport into London and someone had sprayed on the wall Nigel is a bloody wanker. That always makes me smile when I think about it lol
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Um, no. Nor was it required. She's a very cool gal who was probably responding to some whiny hypochondriac bitch in the office. As many of us have discovered, Human Resources departments have changed over the years to be FAR to overly proactive.
Glad to hear you have a cool HR person. I'm pretty sure many/most at my company are as well, since many/most are immigrants not steeped in US liberal arts baloney (and some from the US are probably OK as well). Other than when hiring on or leaving a company I try to minimize contact with HR.
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On my First visit to England I was riding a cab from the airport into London and someone had sprayed on the wall Nigel is a bloody wanker. That always makes me smile when I think about it lol
Ok Grumpy, this one's especially for you.
Have not had the occasion to use it yet, but would love to do it. It even makes me laugh.
Ready? When folks get all upset about something and become unglued, Is when I'd like to say ...
Don't get your knickers in a twist! :-)
~ ABC
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Ralphie -- this is one of the MANY reasons I told the work force to pound sand up their asses.
Ain't gonna play their game. It's been 4 years of unmitigated bliss, especially the part about not having to put up with the insane traffic morons.
HR's SOLE reason to exist isn't to serve the employees. It's to protect the company. And since there are WAAAAAAAAAY too many snowflakes in the work force anymore, it doesn't take much to prompt HR to protect themselves on behalf of the company.
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See, this is the beauty of me being the self-employed business owner. I answer to
me.. my wife. :p
Seriously though, a lot of "The Crud" going around. Just last week I had to go to Urgent Care. Tested positive for the Flu. Felt crappy for a couple days. Thats about it. Worst part, lingering cough. :whatever:
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See, this is the beauty of me being the self-employed business owner. I answer to me.. my wife. :p
Seriously though, a lot of "The Crud" going around. Just last week I had to go to Urgent Care. Tested positive for the Flu. Felt crappy for a couple days. Thats about it. Worst part, lingering cough. :whatever:
I remember a time when they didn't bother "testing" for flu. You just had it, or didn't have it. No big deal, other than feeling like crap for a few days.
The snowflakes and their gubmint lackeys have created an entirely new game. :whatever:
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Ralphie -- this is one of the MANY reasons I told the work force to pound sand up their asses.
Ain't gonna play their game. It's been 4 years of unmitigated bliss, especially the part about not having to put up with the insane traffic morons.
HR's SOLE reason to exist isn't to serve the employees. It's to protect the company. And since there are WAAAAAAAAAY too many snowflakes in the work force anymore, it doesn't take much to prompt HR to protect themselves on behalf of the company.
Depending on the size of the company, the HR slime balls can be totally anonymous and vicious. Most places I've worked it has been small enough to not encounter such garbage. And I absolutely know which snowflake flagged me to HR, she's a whiny young gal in general regardless of COVID or illness.
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Glad to hear you have a cool HR person. I'm pretty sure many/most at my company are as well, since many/most are immigrants not steeped in US liberal arts baloney (and some from the US are probably OK as well). Other than when hiring on or leaving a company I try to minimize contact with HR.
Have lived my entire life in flyover country from the North Central plains to the Southwest, in both large to medium-sized metro areas. Despite what the coastal media derides us as, we aren't rubes but more importantly well educated rational people.
One of the worst workplace notifications ever is if someone from HR e-mails or stops by to schedule a "meeting" for just a few minutes. I've been on both the giving and receiving end of that transaction before.
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See, this is the beauty of me being the self-employed business owner. I answer to me.. my wife. :p
Seriously though, a lot of "The Crud" going around. Just last week I had to go to Urgent Care. Tested positive for the Flu. Felt crappy for a couple days. Thats about it. Worst part, lingering cough. :whatever:
Glad that you are not feeling so crappy any more RN ... also that you answer to your wife! :-) Smart man indeed!!! :clap: :clap: :tongue:
And hope that that bloody cough will also be going away soon.
Hugs ~ ABC
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Just did the dipstick drill. Have have cold/flu/something symptoms for almost a week. Didn't think it was Covid, but between my son and DIL visiting for Christmas and all the folks at work, I thought it a responsible thing to do. I tested negative, unsurprisingly and thankfully.
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I'm just getting over a cold. We flew to AZ and back to Houston a couple of weeks ago and I got a cold a couple of days after we got home. I came to work for a couple of days feeling like I might be getting a cold. Woke up in my hotel at midnight on Wednesday morning feeling absolutely horrible. I went to the office and grabbed my computer and notes and drove home. Got to my house a little after 3am and went to sleep.
I worked from the house the rest of the week and went back to the office on Monday. Felt really bad all week, but I stayed my distance from folks and refused to shake hands with anyone. This week I'm almost over it so, I should be well and good for Christmas and New Years!
I don't have to worry about HR, really. We're a construction company and our HR speaks construction worker very well.
KC
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I haven't had a cold since BC -- Before Covid.
Mrs. E brought Covid home with her from Italy in June 2022 when I had a bout with it, lasting about 4 days.
The differences I experienced between the common cold and Covid are:
1. Chest versus sinus/head -- when a cold hits me, it usually goes right to my sinuses. Leaves the chest out of it. Not so with Covid. I developed a hacking cough that persisted throughout but left my head relatively alone.
2. Fever -- I had a mild fever of about 101 in the 2nd day. Went away fairly quickly. A cold does not give me a fever at all.
3. Voice -- associated with the chest element, I sounded like a croaking frog for about 3 days.
4. General malaise -- a cold is an annoyance, but Covid punched me pretty good. Not for long, but I was not entirely happy for at least 2 days.
Mrs. E claims that her experience with Covid (almost nonexistent, though she brought it home to me) was a direct result of her having had at least two "boosters." I refuse to take any boosters at all.
If what I'm reading about the mRNA "vaccines" and their accompanying "boosters" are anywhere close to true, I'll take the 4 days of croakiness versus myocarditis any day.
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I typically get 1 or 0 colds a year. However, I do get runny nose in cold (don't laugh) weather and allergies in spring. I'm inclined to think that the masking stuff has diminished my immune system some by reducing casual encounters with various bugs (like a weight lifter or marathon runner who slacks off in their training).
This past week or two I've had runny nose, one side of my throat sore, and coughed more. Potentially Covid, but my energy level has been normal, and my O2 levels have been good. Do I didn't think I had Covid, but wanted to be sure (I'm surprised no coworker has expressed "concern").
The Covid symptoms I've heard of lately have especially been head ache, sore throat, and low energy. With some the symptoms linger, but that varies, probably with the degree of the original exposure and the phase of the Moon. It seems to take a while after symptoms go away for a dipstick test to be negative again, but that's at least partly due to the test not discerning between live viruses and dead viruses (and antigens therefrom).
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I haven't had a cold since BC -- Before Covid.
Ha! Ha! love it "Before Covid" :cheersmate:
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If what I'm reading about the mRNA "vaccines" and their accompanying "boosters" are anywhere close to true, I'll take the 4 days of croakiness versus myocarditis any day.
Good for you babe! Please don't take the boosters! I would prefer that Mr. ABC doesn't take anymore shots, and especially boosters, either. However, is up to him, is his body, not mine.
As for me, was my choice to NOT take the "experimental, so called "vaccines" at all, and instead chose to ramp up my immune system with vitamin supplements ...
Being the vitamin freak that I am (as long as they are made in the USA, that is) has so far been working out for me & am willing to leave the rest of my days up to the man upstairs!
~ ABC
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I've taken to describe certain recent events as "pre-Covid". It's become a useful time marker. I think we may have become "post-Covid" in the sense that we are post-Spanish-Flu.
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I haven't had a cold since BC -- Before Covid.
Mrs. E brought Covid home with her from Italy in June 2022 when I had a bout with it, lasting about 4 days.
The differences I experienced between the common cold and Covid are:
1. Chest versus sinus/head -- when a cold hits me, it usually goes right to my sinuses. Leaves the chest out of it. Not so with Covid. I developed a hacking cough that persisted throughout but left my head relatively alone.
2. Fever -- I had a mild fever of about 101 in the 2nd day. Went away fairly quickly. A cold does not give me a fever at all.
3. Voice -- associated with the chest element, I sounded like a croaking frog for about 3 days.
4. General malaise -- a cold is an annoyance, but Covid punched me pretty good. Not for long, but I was not entirely happy for at least 2 days.
Mrs. E claims that her experience with Covid (almost nonexistent, though she brought it home to me) was a direct result of her having had at least two "boosters." I refuse to take any boosters at all.
If what I'm reading about the mRNA "vaccines" and their accompanying "boosters" are anywhere close to true, I'll take the 4 days of croakiness versus myocarditis any day.
Interesting and my personal experience differs from yours. That's why we're all unique humans.
Per SVPete's edict, my "pre-Covid" colds were really similar and a couple of times ended up with my being diagnosed with walking pneumonia. However, it was the same malaise no matter the diagnosis. Since I've entered my early 50's, just try to be a touch more careful when a weird bug hits me. But as I posted to begin with, I haven't been sick since 2017.
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I've had The 'Rona once that I'm aware of. It wasn't fun, but for as many "exacerbating factors" as the CDC would say I have (not a spring chicken any more, type-1 diabetic, mild asthma) it also wasn't the death sentence the hand wringers and bed wetters have proclaimed it to be.
My point is that I refuse to cater to the hand wringers and test for The 'Rona every time my damned hay fever acts up. It's not a matter of being "manly" or fearing to see the results: it's that the results of the test will not alter one whit how I treat the bug. With my immune system, a cold bug lasts a couple of days; The 'Rona lasted a little longer than that, but I always give any bug a good week (a full calendar week, not some DUmb bid'ness week) after symptoms fully subside before I start going out in public again. Fortunately, I do have a good, strong immune system, and the ability to work from home while I'm keeping any cooties I might have had to myself.
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I've had The 'Rona once that I'm aware of. It wasn't fun, but for as many "exacerbating factors" as the CDC would say I have (not a spring chicken any more, type-1 diabetic, mild asthma) it also wasn't the death sentence the hand wringers and bed wetters have proclaimed it to be.
My point is that I refuse to cater to the hand wringers and test for The 'Rona every time my damned hay fever acts up. It's not a matter of being "manly" or fearing to see the results: it's that the results of the test will not alter one whit how I treat the bug. With my immune system, a cold bug lasts a couple of days; The 'Rona lasted a little longer than that, but I always give any bug a good week (a full calendar week, not some DUmb bid'ness week) after symptoms fully subside before I start going out in public again. Fortunately, I do have a good, strong immune system, and the ability to work from home while I'm keeping any cooties I might have had to myself.
I've posted this before, but one of the many gems from George Carlin, who was certainly not a MAGA Republican:
https://youtu.be/X29lF43mUlo
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Hi guys, should have added the following important words to my msg. #18 earlier today, as was ...
a "red flag warning signal " to me, re the so called "vaccines!".
If they were manufacturing a product that was continually touted as safe &effective, then why did it require blanket immunity from civil lawsuits, ...
For IIRC ... 75 long years? Huh???
~ ABC
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Hi guys, should have added the following important words to my msg. #18 earlier today, as was ...
a "red flag warning signal " to me, re the so called "vaccines!".
If they were manufacturing a product that was continually touted as safe &effective, then why did it require blanket immunity from civil lawsuits, ...
For IIRC ... 75 long years? Huh???
~ ABC
Whoa, hang on there, darlin'. :afro: You're lookin' where you ain't supposed to look. Dontcha know the lawyers are always on patrol and they're always looking for their next paycheck?
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I've posted this before, but one of the many gems from George Carlin, who was certainly not a MAGA Republican:
https://youtu.be/X29lF43mUlo
A fine "gem" it was Ralphie! Had not ever seen it before! :clap: :clap:
From your link, funny as it was, but true as well.
Also agree 100% with a commenter below the vid who wrote ...
Carlins point is the danger of government criminaliztion of getting sick. This is the real danger we face, and Carlin was not just a prophet, he knew exactly what will go down in a submissive society to undue authority and people are sheep enough to obey without question.
:hi5: to both you, and the unknow to us, commenter! :-) ~ ABC
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Outta here for the night guys, have a busy day coming up tomorrow ...
And you all can stop clapping and :yahoo: ing, ya hear? :tongue:
~ ABC
Oops! Euph, my friend, will also have to get back to YOU tomorrow! Sorry about that.
Do your best to hang in there, if you possibly can darlin' ... :lmao:
~ ABC (ZZZZZZZzzzzz ZONK!)
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::) "The Public Readiness and Emergency Preparedness Act (PREPA), passed by the United States Congress and signed into law by President of the United States George W. Bush in December 2005 ..." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_Readiness_and_Emergency_Preparedness_Act
::) From https://www.phe.gov/emergency/events/COVID19/COVIDvaccinators/Pages/PREP-Act-Immunity-from-Liability-for-COVID-19-Vaccinators.aspx :
When Immunity from Liability Applies
When the Secretary determines that a threat or condition constitutes a present or credible risk of a future public health emergency, the Secretary may issue a PREP Act declaration. The declaration provides immunity from liability (except for willful misconduct) for claims of loss caused by, arising out of, relating to, or resulting from the administration or use of covered countermeasures to diseases, threats and conditions identified in the declaration.
Professionals and Entities Covered by Immunity PREP Act immunity applies to:
licensed health professionals authorized to administer covered medical countermeasures under the law of the state where the countermeasure is administered, and
other individuals identified in the declaration by the Secretary of Health and Human Services (HHS) to prescribe, dispense, or administer covered countermeasures, including the COVID-19 vaccine
Qualified Persons
In March 2020, the Secretary issued a PREP Act Declaration covering COVID-19 tests, drugs and vaccines providing liability protections to manufacturers, distributors, states, localities, licensed healthcare professionals, and others identified by the Secretary (qualified persons) who administer COVID-19 countermeasures. The Declaration has been amended several times to expand liability protections, including prior amendments to cover licensed healthcare professionals who cross state borders and federal response teams.
So, the immunity law, being passed in 2005, could not have been passed for Covid vaccines. Nor did the March 2020 Sec HHS declaration apply only to Covid vaccines. There is no 75 year period in any of this. Object to that immunity as you like, but at least use facts.
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Pete, this is where I got the "75 years" info from ..,
https://news.bloomberglaw.com/health-law-and-business/why-a-judge-ordered-fda-to-release-covid-19-vaccine-data-pronto
Is a rather lengthy read, which ends in the following words ...
As Pittman recognized, America needs transparency and independent scientists to review this data—not in 75 years, but now.
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Pete, this is where I got the "75 years" info from ..,
https://news.bloomberglaw.com/health-law-and-business/why-a-judge-ordered-fda-to-release-covid-19-vaccine-data-pronto
Is a rather lengthy read, which ends in the following words ...
As Pittman recognized, America needs transparency and independent scientists to review this data—not in 75 years, but now.
I knew where the "75 years" came from, but didn't mention it because it is unrelated to the Public Readiness and Emergency Preparedness Act and the immunity for Covid vaccines, treatment drugs, and tests.
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Since I'm POing people by posting facts:
National Vaccine Injury Compensation Program
https://www.hrsa.gov/vaccine-compensation (https://www.hrsa.gov/vaccine-compensation)
COVID-19 Claims
For claims associated with the COVID-19 vaccine or other COVID-19 related countermeasures, please file your Request for Benefits with the Countermeasures Injury Compensation Program.
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In these instances, the National Vaccine Injury Compensation Program (VICP) may provide financial compensation to individuals who file a petition and are found to have been injured by a VICP-covered vaccine. Even in cases in which such a finding is not made, petitioners may receive compensation through a settlement.
How Does the VICP Work?
The National Vaccine Injury Compensation Program is a no-fault alternative to the traditional legal system for resolving vaccine injury petitions.
It was created in the 1980s, after lawsuits against vaccine companies and health care providers threatened to cause vaccine shortages and reduce U.S. vaccination rates, which could have caused a resurgence of vaccine preventable diseases.
Any individual, of any age, who received a covered vaccine and believes he or she was injured as a result, can file a petition. Parents, legal guardians and legal representatives can file on behalf of children, disabled adults, and individuals who are deceased.
So, contrary to anti-Covid-vaxxers' common claim, there is legal means for compensation for vaccine injury. If the above is news to anyone, maybe you should ponder why your Covid vaccine "news" sources are silent about it? Ignorance? Lying-by-omission? Yes?
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Will no doubt be getting back to this subject at a later date with SVPete! :thatsright:
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But for now, am more interested in seeing where the vote goes for the $1.7 Omnibus Spending Bill ...
Also here in "General Discussion". (Guilty-smile!) :-)
~ ABC
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So, contrary to anti-Covid-vaxxers' common claim, there is legal means for compensation for vaccine injury. If the above is news to anyone, maybe you should ponder why your Covid vaccine "news" sources are silent about it? Ignorance? Lying-by-omission? Yes?
Well, speaking for myself re the choices given above; and being the polite person that I tend to be, all I can say is ...
KEEP GUESSING!!! :tongue:
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Since I'm POing people by posting facts:
National Vaccine Injury Compensation Program
https://www.hrsa.gov/vaccine-compensation (https://www.hrsa.gov/vaccine-compensation)
So, contrary to anti-Covid-vaxxers' common claim, there is legal means for compensation for vaccine injury. If the above is news to anyone, maybe you should ponder why your Covid vaccine "news" sources are silent about it? Ignorance? Lying-by-omission? Yes?
SVP, I don’t think you’re pissing people off, but I will tell you I only learned of that remedy last year. I’d never heard of it before and had to do some research before I even believed it was more than a conspiracy theory.
With that said, I think that group is going to be really busy in the future. From what I’m reading about the vaccines, and I’m not talking about some weird publications but actual news sources, these vaccines are very likely to be causing some very serious problems. Time will tell for sure.
KC
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SVP, I don’t think you’re pissing people off, but I will tell you I only learned of that remedy last year. I’d never heard of it before and had to do some research before I even believed it was more than a conspiracy theory.
With that said, I think that group is going to be really busy in the future. From what I’m reading about the vaccines, and I’m not talking about some weird publications but actual news sources, these vaccines are very likely to be causing some very serious problems. Time will tell for sure.
KC
From what I’m reading about the vaccines, and I’m not talking about some weird publications but actual news sources, these vaccines are very likely to be causing some very serious problems. Time will tell for sure.
Yes indeed, "Time will tell for sure." and hopefully, many of our loved ones who took them, will still be around as well!
~ ABC :hi5: