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Title: Forever foods: 9 cooking staples that can outlast you
Post by: Chris_ on March 02, 2011, 06:43:36 PM
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Forever foods: 9 cooking staples that can outlast you

Most weeks, you make a big grocery list and head to the store, prepared to buy loads of fresh food to make your family's meals. We often don't give a thought to stuff sitting in the kitchen cupboard or we automatically throw out anything that's been in there longer than we can remember.

But Janice Revell, co-founder of StillTasty.com, says "Look in your pantry and your cabinets and check whether the items really do need to go. You'll be shocked by what you really don't need to throw away."

So before you throw out that years-old sugar or replace that bottle of vanilla that's been gathering dust, consult this list of "forever foods." You may be surprised how many of your kitchen staples have a shelf life of decades — even after they've been opened.
Yahoo (http://shine.yahoo.com/event/green/forever-foods-9-cooking-staples-that-can-outlast-you-2456896)

This is the site referenced in the article: Still Tasty (http://stilltasty.com/)
Title: Re: Forever foods: 9 cooking staples that can outlast you
Post by: Boudicca on March 02, 2011, 07:00:23 PM
Chris, not only can Twinkies and PopTarts survive indefinitely, it's my belief they, along with cockroaches, would be the sole survivors of a nuclear holocaust.
Title: Re: Forever foods: 9 cooking staples that can outlast you
Post by: BlueStateSaint on March 03, 2011, 07:07:07 AM
Yahoo (http://shine.yahoo.com/event/green/forever-foods-9-cooking-staples-that-can-outlast-you-2456896)

This is the site referenced in the article: Still Tasty (http://stilltasty.com/)

When the article first came out, I printed it and added it to the "Survival/SHTF Binder" that I keep.
Title: Re: Forever foods: 9 cooking staples that can outlast you
Post by: DumbAss Tanker on March 03, 2011, 08:57:11 AM
Chris, not only can Twinkies and PopTarts survive indefinitely, it's my belief they, along with cockroaches, would be the sole survivors of a nuclear holocaust.

Even better, the PopTarts would be warm!

 :-)
Title: Re: Forever foods: 9 cooking staples that can outlast you
Post by: Celtic Rose on March 03, 2011, 09:22:15 AM
So when the world collapses, we can live on rice, sugar and vinegar.
Title: Re: Forever foods: 9 cooking staples that can outlast you
Post by: Chris_ on March 03, 2011, 09:24:54 AM
It'll be like having Chinese take-out every night. :yum:
Title: Re: Forever foods: 9 cooking staples that can outlast you
Post by: DumbAss Tanker on March 03, 2011, 09:50:36 AM
Still leaves a hole to be filled for fats and protein, but I guess that's where rats fit in to the circle of life.

 :yum:
Title: Re: Forever foods: 9 cooking staples that can outlast you
Post by: Boudicca on March 03, 2011, 09:52:33 AM
Still leaves a hole to be filled for fats and protein, but I guess that's where rats fit in to the circle of life.

 :yum:

EEEEEEWWWWWWWW
I'll have another warm PopTart please.
Title: Re: Forever foods: 9 cooking staples that can outlast you
Post by: Evil_Conservative on March 03, 2011, 10:33:02 AM
Poptarts?  I have six boxes, soon to be nine, once I get home from shopping today.  Guess I'll just fill up my whole pantry with Poptarts and tell the family that's what we're eating when shit really hits the fan.
Title: Re: Forever foods: 9 cooking staples that can outlast you
Post by: BlueStateSaint on March 03, 2011, 10:53:46 AM
Poptarts?  I have six boxes, soon to be nine, once I get home from shopping today.  Guess I'll just fill up my whole pantry with Poptarts and tell the family that's what we're eating when shit really hits the fan.

Make sure that you piss off that young socialist in Wisconsin and include lots of noodles.  Ramen, if possible.
Title: Re: Forever foods: 9 cooking staples that can outlast you
Post by: Thor on March 03, 2011, 07:49:14 PM
I've had pinto beans that  were three or four years old. They cooked up just fine. Store in a cool dry place and some stuff will last a lot longer than they're saying.
Title: Re: Forever foods: 9 cooking staples that can outlast you
Post by: Celtic Rose on March 03, 2011, 07:51:00 PM
It'll be like having Chinese take-out every night. :yum:

Sweet and Sour Squirrel!
Title: Re: Forever foods: 9 cooking staples that can outlast you
Post by: Boudicca on March 03, 2011, 07:53:08 PM
Sweet and Sour Squirrel!
OH, so THAT'S the famous mystery meat.  Here I thought it was dog.
Nevermind, that's Korean restaurant fare.  Or was it cat?

SHIT, I need to go do a fur baby head count now.
Title: Re: Forever foods: 9 cooking staples that can outlast you
Post by: DumbAss Tanker on March 04, 2011, 06:21:31 AM
Rat, squirrel...not really that much difference besides the tail.
Title: Re: Forever foods: 9 cooking staples that can outlast you
Post by: vesta111 on March 04, 2011, 09:30:01 AM
Yahoo (http://shine.yahoo.com/event/green/forever-foods-9-cooking-staples-that-can-outlast-you-2456896)

This is the site referenced in the article: Still Tasty (http://stilltasty.com/)

Here I am falling asleep as I was up half the night checking into how to dehydrate EGGS.   

What did I find????

I found that people are so worried about emergency situations they are not depending on electricity to there freezers, they are putting out how to survive films teaching everyone how to dehydrate just about anything one can imagine to feed their family's when TSHTF.

What really bothered me is the number of people that believe we need to do this NOW. Thousands of sites put out by religious and non religious folk that are getting ready to hunker down.

I got into this as I do remember a few shipping strikes that led to grocery stores being cleaned out of meat and canned goods in the 1970, The Unions were going to teach us a lesson and did they ever.


Why are we doing this hording food at this time that if nothing happens we will not need.-----Shelf life for some of this stuff is 10-30 years, if we are not around in the future, someone in our family  may thank God we had the fore sight to feed them in the future. 

I dd find 50 or so Company's that sell dried foods that are a complete rip off.  Their biggest rip off was the cost for dried beans and rice that will last many years and if bought in bags at the grocery store cost 1/4 of the cost of their products.  Vaccum seal the suckers and they will last may more years then their products.

What I cannot find is how to dehydrate meats that have all ready been cooked.  Food safety when it comes to chicken and pork, hamburger etc is a question.   So the freeze dried form of cooked meat  foods is not so palatable, when one is hungry, who gives a flying freak about the seasoning , just eat the damn stuff.

BTW, I found over 2 dozen videos on how to dehydrate fresh eggs, I will give this a try when Eggs go on sale.  Any one know how to dehydrate Hot dogs??
Title: Re: Forever foods: 9 cooking staples that can outlast you
Post by: Celtic Rose on March 04, 2011, 09:35:18 AM
Here I am falling asleep as I was up half the night checking into how to dehydrate EGGS.   

What did I find????

I found that people are so worried about emergency situations they are not depending on electricity to there freezers, they are putting out how to survive films teaching everyone how to dehydrate just about anything one can imagine to feed their family's when TSHTF.

What really bothered me is the number of people that believe we need to do this NOW. Thousands of sites put out by religious and non religious folk that are getting ready to hunker down.

I got into this as I do remember a few shipping strikes that led to grocery stores being cleaned out of meat and canned goods in the 1970, The Unions were going to teach us a lesson and did they ever.


Why are we doing this hording food at this time that if nothing happens we will not need.-----Shelf life for some of this stuff is 10-30 years, if we are not around in the future, someone in our family  may thank God we had the fore sight to feed them in the future. 

I dd find 50 or so Company's that sell dried foods that are a complete rip off.  Their biggest rip off was the cost for dried beans and rice that will last many years and if bought in bags at the grocery store cost 1/4 of the cost of their products.  Vaccum seal the suckers and they will last may more years then their products.

What I cannot find is how to dehydrate meats that have all ready been cooked.  Food safety when it comes to chicken and pork, hamburger etc is a question.   So the freeze dried form of cooked meat  foods is not so palatable, when one is hungry, who gives a flying freak about the seasoning , just eat the damn stuff.

BTW, I found over 2 dozen videos on how to dehydrate fresh eggs, I will give this a try when Eggs go on sale.  Any one know how to dehydrate Hot dogs??

Canning cooked meat might be an easier, and more palatable option than dehydrating it. 
Title: Re: Forever foods: 9 cooking staples that can outlast you
Post by: LC EFA on March 05, 2011, 05:26:51 AM
...

I found that people are so worried about emergency situations they are not depending on electricity to there freezers, they are putting out how to survive films teaching everyone how to dehydrate just about anything one can imagine to feed their family's when TSHTF.

You think there's going to be electricity for any meaningful period come a SHTF situation ?

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What really bothered me is the number of people that believe we need to do this NOW. Thousands of sites put out by religious and non religious folk that are getting ready to hunker down.

I got into this as I do remember a few shipping strikes that led to grocery stores being cleaned out of meat and canned goods in the 1970, The Unions were going to teach us a lesson and did they ever.

Proper planning prevents piss poor performance.

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Why are we doing this hording food at this time that if nothing happens we will not need.-----Shelf life for some of this stuff is 10-30 years, if we are not around in the future, someone in our family  may thank God we had the fore sight to feed them in the future.

It's kinda hard to prepare for an emergency situation after the fact.

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I dd find 50 or so Company's that sell dried foods that are a complete rip off.  Their biggest rip off was the cost for dried beans and rice that will last many years and if bought in bags at the grocery store cost 1/4 of the cost of their products.  Vaccum seal the suckers and they will last may more years then their products.

No shit. That's why you purchase in bulk and preserve / store using your own devices.

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What I cannot find is how to dehydrate meats that have all ready been cooked.  Food safety when it comes to chicken and pork, hamburger etc is a question.   So the freeze dried form of cooked meat  foods is not so palatable, when one is hungry, who gives a flying freak about the seasoning , just eat the damn stuff.

BTW, I found over 2 dozen videos on how to dehydrate fresh eggs, I will give this a try when Eggs go on sale.  Any one know how to dehydrate Hot dogs??

What kind of ****in moron wants to preserve meat that has been cooked, and doesn't already have the ability to pressure can or freeze dry.
Title: Re: Forever foods: 9 cooking staples that can outlast you
Post by: vesta111 on March 05, 2011, 05:53:58 AM
You think there's going to be electricity for any meaningful period come a SHTF situation ?

Proper planning prevents piss poor performance.

It's kinda hard to prepare for an emergency situation after the fact.

No shit. That's why you purchase in bulk and preserve / store using your own devices.

What kind of ****in moron wants to preserve meat that has been cooked, and doesn't already have the ability to pressure can or freeze dry.

I guess I am the moron here.   

If I can dehydrate raw meat, why not semi or full cooked food.  Can one dehydrate Kielbasa when it goes on sale, or hot dogs at $.80 cents for 12.??

Is it the fat content that screws stuff up, ?

Just a question from a moron that is just learning the art.
Title: Re: Forever foods: 9 cooking staples that can outlast you
Post by: BlueStateSaint on March 05, 2011, 06:03:33 AM
I guess I am the moron here.   

If I can dehydrate raw meat, why not semi or full cooked food.  Can one dehydrate Kielbasa when it goes on sale, or hot dogs at $.80 cents for 12.??

Is it the fat content that screws stuff up, ?

Just a question from a moron that is just learning the art.

Must . . . resist . . . urge . . .  :tongue: :fuelfire:
Title: Re: Forever foods: 9 cooking staples that can outlast you
Post by: vesta111 on March 08, 2011, 04:44:13 AM
Must . . . resist . . . urge . . .  :tongue: :fuelfire:

I finally found the how to preserve cooked meat and what an eyefull I received. Things sure have changed in the meat industry in the last 20 years due to food poisoning.

Every site warns about drying raw meat.   Cook it first on a temp high enough to kill most bacteria, then season the meat and dry it.  Chicken, turkey, wild game, hamburger and Buffalo meat, eggs from chicken, ducks or geese cook first then dry.   

Title: Re: Forever foods: 9 cooking staples that can outlast you
Post by: Thor on March 08, 2011, 06:34:14 AM
I finally found the how to preserve cooked meat and what an eyefull I received. Things sure have changed in the meat industry in the last 20 years due to food poisoning.

Every site warns about drying raw meat.   Cook it first on a temp high enough to kill most bacteria, then season the meat and dry it.  Chicken, turkey, wild game, hamburger and Buffalo meat, eggs from chicken, ducks or geese cook first then dry.   



That's because we have a bunch of apathetic wetbacks working in our meat packing or poultry plants any more. It USED to be that meat packers took their job seriously.
Title: Re: Forever foods: 9 cooking staples that can outlast you
Post by: Chris_ on June 06, 2011, 10:56:02 PM
That's because we have a bunch of apathetic wetbacks working in our meat packing or poultry plants any more. It USED to be that meat packers took their job seriously.

I don't think it's a racial issue at all.

The processing plants are a lot different than they used to be. We have a Tyson's plant in the town where I live and you can smell the stench for blocks. These places are nasty.

BTW, the people who work there are U.S. citizens. But I wouldn't wish that job on anybody.
Title: Re: Forever foods: 9 cooking staples that can outlast you
Post by: Chris_ on June 07, 2011, 02:00:32 AM
There's a Tyson plant in the town where I live and you can smell the stench for blocks. I hardly think that's because of undocumented workers. In fact, I don't know of any working there. It's just a big, nasty place trying to turn a quick buck.
Title: Re: Forever foods: 9 cooking staples that can outlast you
Post by: DumbAss Tanker on June 07, 2011, 09:41:16 AM
I don't think it's a racial issue at all.

The processing plants are a lot different than they used to be. We have a Tyson's plant in the town where I live and you can smell the stench for blocks. These places are nasty.

BTW, the people who work there are U.S. citizens. But I wouldn't wish that job on anybody.

"Citizen" is a race?  My, my, the strange things one learns on the internet.
Title: Re: Forever foods: 9 cooking staples that can outlast you
Post by: Chris_ on June 07, 2011, 09:44:23 PM
"Citizen" is a race?  My, my, the strange things one learns on the internet.

They don't call ya DumbAss Tanker for nothing, do they?  :lol:
Title: Re: Forever foods: 9 cooking staples that can outlast you
Post by: DumbAss Tanker on June 08, 2011, 09:02:13 AM
They don't call ya DumbAss Tanker for nothing, do they?  :lol:

You're obviously completely unfamiliar with service in the U.S. Army, noob.

ETA:  And apparently also lacking an explanation for your bizarre, moonbat-like equation of citizenship status to race.
Title: Re: Forever foods: 9 cooking staples that can outlast you
Post by: Chris_ on June 08, 2011, 03:08:13 PM
"Wetback" is a bizarre, moonbat like word. Wasn't me who invented it, or who is ignorant enough to use it when referring to people.
Title: Re: Forever foods: 9 cooking staples that can outlast you
Post by: CG6468 on June 08, 2011, 03:20:52 PM
"Wetback" is a bizarre, moonbat like word. Wasn't me who invented it, or who is ignorant enough to use it when referring to people.

President Eisenhower used it in "Operation Wetback." Was he ignorant?
Title: Re: Forever foods: 9 cooking staples that can outlast you
Post by: Eupher on June 08, 2011, 04:10:57 PM
"Wetback" is a bizarre, moonbat like word. Wasn't me who invented it, or who is ignorant enough to use it when referring to people.

Not so bizarre when you realize that many of those who invaded our country did so by either swimming or wading across the Rio Grande.

When you get into water, you get wet.

Pretty simple when you think about it.
Title: Re: Forever foods: 9 cooking staples that can outlast you
Post by: DumbAss Tanker on June 09, 2011, 05:09:39 PM
"Wetback" is a bizarre, moonbat like word. Wasn't me who invented it, or who is ignorant enough to use it when referring to people.

False equivalency.  So far you are delivering a nonexplanation worthy of a Democrat.
Title: Re: Forever foods: 9 cooking staples that can outlast you
Post by: CG6468 on June 10, 2011, 09:34:27 AM
I wish the newbie would answer my question. Was President Eisenhower an ignorant moonbat?

And please - just a simple "yes" or "no" answer. No liberal "explanations" necessary.
Title: Re: Forever foods: 9 cooking staples that can outlast you
Post by: Chris_ on June 11, 2011, 03:54:22 AM
Wasn't it Eisenhower who said  “Every gun that is made, every warship launched, every rocket fired, signifies, in the final sense, a theft from those who hunger and are not fed, those who are cold and are not clothed.”?

Sounds like a liberal.

Title: Re: Forever foods: 9 cooking staples that can outlast you
Post by: CG6468 on June 11, 2011, 08:11:12 AM
Wasn't it Eisenhower who said  “Every gun that is made, every warship launched, every rocket fired, signifies, in the final sense, a theft from those who hunger and are not fed, those who are cold and are not clothed.”?

Sounds like a liberal.



Once again, no response to the question posed.
Title: Re: Forever foods: 9 cooking staples that can outlast you
Post by: Eupher on June 11, 2011, 11:31:01 AM
Wasn't it Eisenhower who said  “Every gun that is made, every warship launched, every rocket fired, signifies, in the final sense, a theft from those who hunger and are not fed, those who are cold and are not clothed.”?

Sounds like a liberal.

So what?

He also said this:

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Any man who wants to be president is either an egomaniac or crazy.
Dwight D. Eisenhower

Read more: http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/authors/d/dwight_d_eisenhower.html#ixzz1Oz9siGmy

What's that telling you about Ike, the liberal? If in fact that's what he was.

Let's take a look at the entire passage, shall we?

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Every gun that is made, every warship launched, every rocket fired signifies, in the final sense, a theft from those who hunger and are not fed, those who are cold and are not clothed. This world in arms is not spending money alone. It is spending the sweat of its laborers, the genius of its scientists, the hopes of its children. The cost of one modern heavy bomber is this: a modern brick school in more than 30 cities. It is two electric power plants, each serving a town of 60,000 population. It is two fine, fully equipped hospitals. It is some fifty miles of concrete pavement. We pay for a single fighter plane with a half million bushels of wheat. We pay for a single destroyer with new homes that could have housed more than 8,000 people. This is, I repeat, the best way of life to be found on the road the world has been taking. This is not a way of life at all, in any true sense. Under the cloud of threatening war, it is humanity hanging from a cross of iron. […] Is there no other way the world may live?

That, to me, sounds like a man who has seen war because he has had to. And despises war because of its brutality, waste, and slaughter.

But that should not mean that such a man would not go to war if it were necessary.
Title: Re: Forever foods: 9 cooking staples that can outlast you
Post by: CG6468 on June 11, 2011, 12:20:09 PM
Eupher, it's much easier to cherry pick an example from a longer statement.