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How positive are you of Zimmerman's guilt or innocence?
« on: April 12, 2012, 10:17:14 PM »
There's something I've noticed since Zimmerman's charging and arrest. The DUmmies are suddenly becoming more circumspect and hedging their bets a bit regarding what happened that night. It's trending that way, as one of our favorite DUmmies might say. I think it's because they know the facts are going to come out now, and they know those facts aren't going to fall in line with the wild accusations they've made over the last couple of weeks.

Before, they could basically just make up any kind of bullshit, slander, and conjecture they wanted to and get away clean with it. Now that the wheels of due process are really turning, reality is about to slap them in the face, and they want to save a little of that face if possible.

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I just read several threads on FR on the subject, and they all seem to be 100% certain of what happened.

How about you? Do you know for certain what happened?

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2. We don't know for certain. And it's pretty clear the local cops made sure we wouldn't know. n/t

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5. No idea whatsoever

But I do know that in these United States as currently (ahem) constituted, if enough people (or the right people) agree that Zimmerman's a very, very bad person, we can have him summarily executed.

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6. I am certain he deserves his day in court PRONTO that way he can try to clear his name

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7. The thing I really wonder about..

.. is whether Zimmerman tried to tackle / detain / assault Martin.

And I think that's what the case will hinge on.

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22. Yes, the amount of clairvoyance around here is astounding.

People who weren't within 1000 miles of the shooting somehow know EXACTLY what happened and PRECISELY what was in Zimmerman's heart.

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16. No positive of either...

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32. I am positive that he shot Trayvon...

and would certainly like to hear his side of what happened.

Wow. That's quite a turnabout from just a couple of days ago, when Zimmerman's guilt and racism were cast in stone, and anyone who looked at the situation critically was accused of "defending Zimmerman", if not tombstoned outright. To be sure there are still plenty of rabid race warriors about, but their front is starting to show some cracks.

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39. That's freepers for you

They are always 100% certain. The more certain they can sound, the truer something is. That makes it easy to know what is going on. No need to investigate and figure anything complicated out. Freepers hate anything left up in the air.

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Re: How positive are you of Zimmerman's guilt or innocence?
« Reply #1 on: April 12, 2012, 10:22:19 PM »
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Sound like anyone we know?

Nad's?  Who else can successfully claim "bullying" to quiet her most vocal critic's.

I'm not sure who is worse though, her or slutty Sarah.
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Re: How positive are you of Zimmerman's guilt or innocence?
« Reply #2 on: April 13, 2012, 04:50:53 AM »
Nad's?  Who else can successfully claim "bullying" to quiet her most vocal critic's.

I'm not sure who is worse though, her or slutty Sarah.


I'd say Nads, because slutty Sarah can catch --or transmit--an actual disease that will 'modify her behavior.'  Nads' arrogance and stupidity prevents her from learning from her ****ups.
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Re: How positive are you of Zimmerman's guilt or innocence?
« Reply #3 on: April 13, 2012, 06:31:35 AM »
For me, unless some incredibly damning evidence pops up out of the blue, I'm convinced of his innocence, for a couple reasons:
1. In this country, a person's innocent until proven guilty.
2. Zimmerman's injuries, the audio of the 911 call, and the testimonies of independent eyewitnesses all seem to be consistent with Zimmerman's account of what happened.
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Re: How positive are you of Zimmerman's guilt or innocence?
« Reply #4 on: April 13, 2012, 06:34:05 AM »
It looks like to me the Magic One's adopted son could've used some courtesy and manners.

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Re: How positive are you of Zimmerman's guilt or innocence?
« Reply #5 on: April 13, 2012, 08:22:45 AM »
My head would explode if I tried to contain the hypocricy that is normal at the DUmp.

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Re: How positive are you of Zimmerman's guilt or innocence?
« Reply #6 on: April 13, 2012, 08:34:25 AM »
I am 100% sure i do not have a clue as to what happened that night.

However i am also 100% sure that Zimmerman is going to hang no matter what
the evidence or truth is......... anybody want to tak the counter-argument bet on that....

The way i see the Zimmerman thing are both of them were thugs ( a nice well behaved teenage boy does not walk up to an adult and punch him and a non thug adult does not get out of his car and confront a teenager

To me this is a case of two future prison inmates meeting each other at the wrong time.

When i was a teenager and i came home with a black eye or something indicating i was in a fight or the police had to take me home my dad would say well you should not have put yourself in a situation LIKE THAT.   to me this is exactly

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Re: How positive are you of Zimmerman's guilt or innocence?
« Reply #7 on: April 13, 2012, 08:41:38 AM »
I am 100% sure i do not have a clue as to what happened that night.

However i am also 100% sure that Zimmerman is going to hang no matter what
the evidence or truth is......... anybody want to tak the counter-argument bet on that....

The way i see the Zimmerman thing are both of them were thugs ( a nice well behaved teenage boy does not walk up to an adult and punch him and a non thug adult does not get out of his car and confront a teenager

To me this is a case of two future prison inmates meeting each other at the wrong time.

When i was a teenager and i came home with a black eye or something indicating i was in a fight or the police had to take me home my dad would say well you should not have put yourself in a situation LIKE THAT.   to me this is exactly

I'm not sure I can agree with your characterization of Zimmerman. If what he says is true about the crime rate and break ins in his apartment complex, a tenant there would be entirely justified in being suspicious about a young black male stranger lurking about.
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Re: How positive are you of Zimmerman's guilt or innocence?
« Reply #8 on: April 13, 2012, 09:07:58 AM »
Until all the facts come out, and he gets a fair trial; I am keeping my opinion of whether he is innocent or guilty to myself. More people should do the same, although we all know the race baiting liberals won't. They seem to know everything whether they were there or not.

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Re: How positive are you of Zimmerman's guilt or innocence?
« Reply #9 on: April 13, 2012, 09:11:14 AM »
Until all the facts come out, and he gets a fair trial; I am keeping my opinion of whether he is innocent or guilty to myself. More people should do the same, although we all know the race baiting liberals won't. They seem to know everything whether they were there or not.

I would say most conservatives think the same thing. We have seen the media manipulate things to make him appear as being a grand wizard in the KKK and I hope his family sues the piss out of them.

I may not lock my doors while sitting at a red light and a black man is near, but I sure as hell grab on tight to my wallet when any democrats are close by.

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Re: How positive are you of Zimmerman's guilt or innocence?
« Reply #10 on: April 13, 2012, 09:16:59 AM »
I would say most conservatives think the same thing. We have seen the media manipulate things to make him appear as being a grand wizard in the KKK and I hope his family sues the piss out of them.



If I was his family, I would already have a lawyer at ready.

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Re: How positive are you of Zimmerman's guilt or innocence?
« Reply #11 on: April 13, 2012, 09:45:07 AM »
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Before, they could basically just make up any kind of bullshit, slander, and conjecture they wanted

Like that other thread where a DUmmy said "what if he hit himself in the face with a rock?"   :mental: :loser:

I am 0% positive of guilt or innocence, and so I've made not a single post about it on Internetland.  We have a process, let it work.  Unlike the DUmp, I do not care for mob lynchings. 

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Re: How positive are you of Zimmerman's guilt or innocence?
« Reply #12 on: April 13, 2012, 09:48:40 AM »
There's something I've noticed since Zimmerman's charging and arrest. The DUmmies are suddenly becoming more circumspect and hedging their bets a bit regarding what happened that night.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1002548217



Wow. That's quite a turnabout from just a couple of days ago, when Zimmerman's guilt and racism were cast in stone, and anyone who looked at the situation critically was accused of "defending Zimmerman", if not tombstoned outright. To be sure there are still plenty of rabid race warriors about, but their front is starting to show some cracks.

One more, just for the unmatchable irony of it:

Sound like anyone we know?

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They are hedging their bets because the first news photos of Zimmerman showed him looking like a "white Hispanic". The photos and video from court show him to look more "brown Hispanic"  and the DUmmies hard wired identity politics chip is starting to kick in.
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Re: How positive are you of Zimmerman's guilt or innocence?
« Reply #13 on: April 13, 2012, 09:50:09 AM »
Let us consult with the ministry of identity politics.
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Re: How positive are you of Zimmerman's guilt or innocence?
« Reply #15 on: April 20, 2012, 08:54:13 AM »
Yo DUmbasses:






http://abcnews.go.com/US/george-zimmerman-case-exclusive-photo-shows-bloodied-back/story?id=16177849#.T5FQs9lWBIQ


Game, set, match.  :stirpot:

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Re: How positive are you of Zimmerman's guilt or innocence?
« Reply #16 on: April 20, 2012, 10:22:32 AM »
Breaking now on Drudge, circa 10:15 a.m. central time.

Zimmerman gets bail, $150,000.

Watch the primitive heads explode.
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Re: How positive are you of Zimmerman's guilt or innocence?
« Reply #17 on: April 20, 2012, 11:33:02 AM »
Oh, so the owebumaManiaMedia has been dragged kicking and screaming into honestly reporting on this story ? Will miracles ever cease ?
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Re: How positive are you of Zimmerman's guilt or innocence?
« Reply #18 on: April 20, 2012, 11:50:05 AM »
Like that other thread where a DUmmy said "what if he hit himself in the face with a rock?"   :mental: :loser:

I am 0% positive of guilt or innocence, and so I've made not a single post about it on Internetland.  We have a process, let it work.  Unlike the DUmp, I do not care for mob lynchings. 
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Re: How positive are you of Zimmerman's guilt or innocence?
« Reply #19 on: April 20, 2012, 03:00:27 PM »
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It was when I saw Al Sharpton coming out against him that I became 100% positive of Zimmerman's innocence.
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Re: How positive are you of Zimmerman's guilt or innocence?
« Reply #20 on: April 20, 2012, 03:20:50 PM »
It was when I saw Al Sharpton coming out against him that I became 100% positive of Zimmerman's innocence.
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Re: How positive are you of Zimmerman's guilt or innocence?
« Reply #21 on: April 20, 2012, 03:39:28 PM »
I'm not going to say all that much about this whole thing except that if Zimmerman doesn't get convicted, the Panthers in Florida might destroy property or something, and Trayvon's family might actually be making an appearance on truTV's "Disorder in the Court" at some point. Of course, those are just opinions.

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Re: How positive are you of Zimmerman's guilt or innocence?
« Reply #22 on: April 20, 2012, 03:40:44 PM »
I'm not going to say all that much about this whole thing except that if Zimmerman doesn't get convicted, the Panthers in Florida might destroy property or something, and Trayvon's family might actually be making an appearance on truTV's "Disorder in the Court" at some point. Of course, those are just opinions.

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Re: How positive are you of Zimmerman's guilt or innocence?
« Reply #23 on: April 20, 2012, 04:04:16 PM »
I watched the live bail hearing on Court TV and surprise,surprise, his lawyer allowed him do do something that Judges and Lawyers have never seen before. 

He got up and testified to his innocence and apologised to the parents of Martin. What a risk he ran, the DA was so stunned he dropped the ball and did not use this as an advantage to cross examine him.  Total foul up for the prosecution, and the parents of the boy left the court a total mess. 
 
I do believe  the photo of Zimmerman's head looks authentic, he did get his head banged up as from the photo it seems to have been taken on scene at night.  Only thing I question is why so little blood, head wounds bleed big time.

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Re: How positive are you of Zimmerman's guilt or innocence?
« Reply #24 on: April 20, 2012, 04:09:45 PM »
I watched the live bail hearing on Court TV and surprise,surprise, his lawyer allowed him do do something that Judges and Lawyers have never seen before. 

He got up and testified to his innocence and apologised to the parents of Martin. What a risk he ran, the DA was so stunned he dropped the ball and did not use this as an advantage to cross examine him.  Total foul up for the prosecution, and the parents of the boy left the court a total mess. 
 
I do believe  the photo of Zimmerman's head looks authentic, he did get his head banged up as from the photo it seems to have been taken on scene at night.  Only thing I question is why so little blood, head wounds bleed big time.

Are you a real nurse ? Deep head wounds bleeding is difficult to stanch. This wound appears to be more superficial with capillary type bleeding.
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