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Offline tuolumnejim

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Time for a new Declaration of Independence.
« on: March 31, 2011, 01:21:51 AM »
No thanks, or as I like to say BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA! DUmbshit.  :rotf:

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white_wolf (878 posts)        Thu Mar-31-11 02:17 AM
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Time for a new Declaration of Independence.
 It is time for the working class to rise up and declare their independence from the Plutocracy that has utterly destroyed our Republic. Here is my version. I feel like I may be forgetting some things,so I may edit this later. Let me know what you think.

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all people are created equal, that they are endowed with certain unalienable Rights, that are among these are the right to healthcare no matter their financial status, the right to democratically control control the corporations they work for, for the tyranny of a CEO is as hard to bear as the tyranny of government, the right of senior citizens to enjoy their final years in dignity and comfort, the right of universal education for all in the schools and university of our nation, the right to have a congress that is accountable to them and not to corporations. Government should not be changed for trivial reason, however the current Plutocracy of the United States has reduced us to absolute despotism and serfdom. These conditions are intolerable. Below is our list of grievances with current government of the United States.

The Government of the United States has refused to pass legislation enacting Single-Payer Healthcare, despite the support of the majority of the nation and the grieve need we have for it.
It has refused to end two wars which have drained our resources, killed thousands of soldiers and civilians, and has made us hated around the world. It has also refused to give up the empire it has created in order to fulfill the the capitalist greed of the military industrially complex.
It has allowed corporations to buy legislation and to use reap the benefits of the United States infrastructure while not pay for them and shipping jobs overseas.
It has raided Social Security and now contemplates having it removed.
It has failed to prosecute war criminals who have condoned torture and illegal wars in direct violation of the Constitution of the United States.
It has refused to repeal the Patriot Act, a direct violation of the 4th Amendment to the Constitution.
It has raised taxes on the poor and working classes, while refusing to raise taxes for the rich and cutting social services for those who need them most.
It has refused to prosecute Wall street and instead gave them billions of tax payer money.

Below are our demands to remedy these grievances and our last offer of reconciliation:
We demand that Congress expand Medicare to cover every citizen of the United States.
We demand the prosecution of the George Bush, Dick Cheney, and all who authorized or committed torture, and who lied their way into an the Iraq War.
We demand all Corporations that have over 100 employees be turned over to the control of the worker so that they may run them as co-ops and have full control over them, without being forced into economic slavery at the behest of a CEO.
We demand an end to the empire and the Military Industrial Complex.
We demand a progressive income tax that shall force the wealthy to pay their fair share. Anyone making over 1 million a year, shall be taxed at 90%.
We demand an end to our current election system that forces us to choose between only two parties. We demand that the Congress institute Proportional Representation.
We demand the immediate repeal of the Patriot Act.
We demand Wall Street be prosecuted for their crimes and that all the money they and other corporations have stolen be distributed to the working people.
We demand that all elections be financed by pubic money, so as to prevent the rise of another Plutocracy.
Public and private workers shall have the right to form Unions, strike, and collectively bargain.
We demand that all Representatives of the United States from the President and Congress down be eligible for recall if it is felt that they are not acting in interested of those who elected them.
We demand an end to the Electoral College and demand that all Presidents shall be elected by popular vote.
We demand nationalization of all industries that the people shall determine to be necessary for the public good.

 
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Re: Time for a new Declaration of Independence.
« Reply #1 on: March 31, 2011, 01:39:47 AM »
Awww, they're so cute when they try and be intellectual or profound.

If only they could put that amount of effort into getting a damn job.
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Re: Time for a new Declaration of Independence.
« Reply #2 on: March 31, 2011, 03:03:20 AM »
Can you really call yourself "working class" if your only "job" is collecting your entitlement funds, eating Cheetos, smoking weed, and ranting on DU?
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Re: Time for a new Declaration of Independence.
« Reply #3 on: March 31, 2011, 03:11:48 AM »
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...We demand an end to the empire and the Military Industrial Complex...


There is it.  The "magic phrase".

He's not only a DUmbass, he's of the black helicopter, dark suit, "disappearing in the middle of the night", contrails spraying, batshit crazy type of DUmbass.
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Re: Time for a new Declaration of Independence.
« Reply #4 on: March 31, 2011, 03:46:34 AM »
Quote from: ChuckJ on March 31, 2011, 03:03:20 AM
Can you really call yourself "working class" if your only "job" is collecting your entitlement funds, eating Cheetos, smoking weed, and ranting on DU?

Excellent post.

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Come to think of it, unions do create jobs. Companies have to hire two workers to do the work of one.

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Re: Time for a new Declaration of Independence.
« Reply #5 on: March 31, 2011, 04:04:16 AM »
This sounds more like a letter to Santa from a not so bright individual.
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Re: Time for a new Declaration of Independence.
« Reply #6 on: March 31, 2011, 04:39:15 AM »
Let me get this straight...he wants to confiscate virtually all businesses from its owners yet somehow thinks there will be untold numbers of millionaires to tax at 90%.
Even without trying to do a whole bunch of math the thing falls in on itself in no time.

Oh wait...that is why it eventually morphs into Communism with the state owning all and doling out crumbs to the peasants.
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Re: Time for a new Declaration of Independence.
« Reply #7 on: March 31, 2011, 05:39:05 AM »
Quote from: chitownchica on March 31, 2011, 04:04:16 AM
This sounds more like a letter to Santa from a not so bright individual.

I disagree - a letter to Santa is more likely to get a response.
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Re: Time for a new Declaration of Independence.
« Reply #8 on: March 31, 2011, 05:48:47 AM »
What's wrong with the original?

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He has refused his assent to laws, the most wholesome and necessary for the public good.

He has forbidden his governors to pass laws of immediate and pressing importance, unless suspended in their operation till his assent should be obtained; and when so suspended, he has utterly neglected to attend to them.

He has refused to pass other laws for the accommodation of large districts of people, unless those people would relinquish the right of representation in the legislature, a right inestimable to them and formidable to tyrants only.

He has called together legislative bodies at places unusual, uncomfortable, and distant from the depository of their public records, for the sole purpose of fatiguing them into compliance with his measures.

He has dissolved representative houses repeatedly, for opposing with manly firmness his invasions on the rights of the people.

He has refused for a long time, after such dissolutions, to cause others to be elected; whereby the legislative powers, incapable of annihilation, have returned to the people at large for their exercise; the state remaining in the meantime exposed to all the dangers of invasion from without, and convulsions within.

He has endeavored to prevent the population of these states; for that purpose obstructing the laws for naturalization of foreigners; refusing to pass others to encourage their migration hither, and raising the conditions of new appropriations of lands.

He has obstructed the administration of justice, by refusing his assent to laws for establishing judiciary powers.

He has made judges dependent on his will alone, for the tenure of their offices, and the amount and payment of their salaries.

He has erected a multitude of new offices, and sent hither swarms of officers to harass our people, and eat out their substance.

He has kept among us, in times of peace, standing armies without the consent of our legislature.

He has affected to render the military independent of and superior to civil power.
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Re: Time for a new Declaration of Independence.
« Reply #9 on: March 31, 2011, 11:14:23 AM »
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Below is our list of grievances with current government of the United States.

He needs to follow this up with feats of strength.
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Re: Time for a new Declaration of Independence.
« Reply #10 on: March 31, 2011, 11:18:55 AM »
This is beyond retarded.
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Re: Time for a new Declaration of Independence.
« Reply #11 on: March 31, 2011, 11:25:13 AM »
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Time for a new Declaration of Independence.
[Paraphrased for readability ->] Yippity yap yap yap yip yip...

Money talks and bullshit walks, boy.
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Re: Time for a new Declaration of Independence.
« Reply #12 on: March 31, 2011, 02:00:29 PM »
The thing was a laff-riot from beginning to end, including the grammar.  I'm so sorry to be childish, but you guys caught this, right?
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We demand that all elections be financed by pubic money
:lmao:

Think I'll row over and see what they have to say for themselves. 
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Re: Time for a new Declaration of Independence.
« Reply #13 on: March 31, 2011, 02:04:15 PM »
Don't forget the right to free weed, man. Free weed.  :stoner:
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Re: Time for a new Declaration of Independence.
« Reply #14 on: March 31, 2011, 02:10:33 PM »
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SDuderstadt  (1000+ posts)      Wed Mar-30-11 11:38 PM
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21. You might want to let me state my own plan, rather than...
 put words in my mouth.

All the same, I think it's funny that others ridicule conscious capitalism and totally discount its adoption, yet, at the same time, somehow believe that companies with 100 employees will magically be turned over to the workers.
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23. I never said i would magically happen..
 It will happen because we will pass a law forcing that to happen. I have no faith in corporations to do the right thing,that is why the government must force them to do what is right and enact laws to those ends.

Not on my watch, you filthy commie.  Bring back HUAC.  

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4. **** and No.
 Absolutely under no circumstances would I support anything like this. Ever.
 And White wolf was crestfallen.  
Concerning the workers running the businesses:
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Common Sense Party  (1000+ posts)      Wed Mar-30-11 11:44 PM
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26. I don't want a bunch of knobs who can't read a balance sheet running the whole show

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Re: Time for a new Declaration of Independence.
« Reply #15 on: March 31, 2011, 02:10:55 PM »
I have to ask, if these are rights they are talking about then who or what has endowed people with those rights?
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Re: Time for a new Declaration of Independence.
« Reply #16 on: March 31, 2011, 03:01:46 PM »
Quote from: Rebel on March 31, 2011, 02:04:15 PM
Don't forget the right to free weed, man. Free weed. 
Nah, that policy has been co-opted by the libertarian ronbots. Ron and Rand use it as their battle cry.
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Re: Time for a new Declaration of Independence.
« Reply #17 on: March 31, 2011, 03:04:12 PM »
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It has refused to end two three wars which have drained our resources, killed thousands of soldiers and civilians, and has made us hated around the world.
 
He forgot Barry's latest war.....
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Re: Time for a new Declaration of Independence.
« Reply #18 on: March 31, 2011, 03:24:57 PM »
Quote from: TexasCop on March 31, 2011, 03:04:12 PM
 
He forgot Barry's latest war.....


Libya is not a war, but a kinetic military intervention.
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Re: Time for a new Declaration of Independence.
« Reply #19 on: March 31, 2011, 04:01:19 PM »
Good grief. I can't believe I took the time to read that entire diatribe.

I want my click back.
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Re: Time for a new Declaration of Independence.
« Reply #20 on: March 31, 2011, 05:27:21 PM »
Quote from: USNFlyer on March 31, 2011, 04:01:19 PM
Good grief. I can't believe I took the time to read that entire diatribe.

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Aww, crap.
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Re: Time for a new Declaration of Independence.
« Reply #21 on: April 01, 2011, 02:11:34 AM »
My son has an inspection tomorrow and was reading this to him while he was cleaning. He said, "This is my idea of freedom, all Marines should be given free beer for the rest of their lives!" But then, what do I expect, after all he IS a part of the evil Military Industrial Complex (which I'm sure is owned by the BFEE).

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Re: Time for a new Declaration of Independence.
« Reply #22 on: April 01, 2011, 04:36:16 AM »
Quote from: delilahmused on April 01, 2011, 02:11:34 AM
(which I'm sure is owned by the BFEE)

And if you had paid your franchise fee, you'd know this. :tongue:
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Re: Time for a new Declaration of Independence.
« Reply #23 on: April 01, 2011, 06:34:43 AM »
Quote from: delilahmused on April 01, 2011, 02:11:34 AM
My son has an inspection tomorrow and was reading this to him while he was cleaning. He said, "This is my idea of freedom, all Marines should be given free beer for the rest of their lives!" But then, what do I expect, after all he IS a part of the evil Military Industrial Complex (which I'm sure is owned by the BFEE).

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My son stands inspection every Wednesday. This year he got a bad brass belt buckle. It was black on the back side and every where else except the front when he was issued it. The front side has fine scratches like whoever had it before him cleaned it with steel wool or something. He's been pissed about that buckle since day one. Last year he always had the shiniest brass of all the cadets (got compliments from the Major). He's asked for a different buckle several times but they won't give him one. Tuesday night I tried to rub the scratches out...no luck. I'm going by the auto store and get a fine grit rubbing compound and get those scratches out if it kills me.

Oh, and they had their JROTC Ball last week. He looked real sharp in his class A uniform with a white shirt and bowtie. Little girl that went with him looked good to. Wish I could e-mail you a picture but alas I can't on this old computer....but I'm still waiting for a picture of your son in Dress Blues.  :-) If for no other reason than to needle my son...I'm mean to that boy.. :rotf:
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Re: Time for a new Declaration of Independence.
« Reply #24 on: April 01, 2011, 07:01:36 AM »
So basically they want a Declaration of INDEPENDENCE to form a government that taxes, regulates and micro-manages every aspect of your life from womb to tomb.

Perhaps someone should explain what the phrase "contradiction in terms" means.
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