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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: Texacon on April 12, 2019, 01:12:54 PM
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MineralMan
Why Does Each State Have Two Senators, Regardless of Population?
That seems unfair to a lot of people, but there is a reason for it. When the United States was founded, many worried about the populous states having an undue influence on legislation that might be passed by the new Congress. So, a bicameral legislature was created. One part, the House of Representatives was based on the concept of "one person, one vote." The number of House members each state got was based on that state's population.
That was just what the founders were afraid of, so they set up a second body in Congress - the Senate. Its membership was based on the idea that each state in this new United States would have equal representation, with two Senators from each state having seats in the Senate. The idea was balancing the power of the citizen against the power of the separate states. Both bodies were required to pass all new legislation. That was designed to prevent either body from misusing its power to control things.
And that was the idea. The United States of America is not a democracy. It is a Representative Republic. Both the people and the states are represented in its Congress to form a legislative body that supposedly would create balanced legislation. Sometimes it works as intended; sometimes it doesn't.
But that's why it is as it is.
Changing that would require a major constitutional amendment. Such an amendment would probably fail in the house that would be changed the most. About the only way that change could be made would be through a Constitutional Convention, something that has never been called during the nation's existence.
Now there are a bunch of interesting comments here, but I want to point something out and I hope a DUmmie will be bold enough to come explain it to us knuckle draggers.
zipplewrath
35. Not just Blue vs Red
As long as this nation has been around there has been some variation of "rural vs urban". Originally it was more "merchant vs. agrarian" But you can't have a country in which a minority view (what ever that view is) is in control of governing.
Here’s what I would like to know because I see this posted by multiple liberals on DU and Facebook.
You keep saying you want to live by popular vote and as demonstrated above, you think the minority should not govern the majority “whatever that view is”, yet schools and stadiums are being told they MUST have transgender bathrooms. Bakers are being told they MUST bake cakes for gay weddings. States have been told they MUST allow gay marriage.
I live in Texas. The majority here voted to amend our state constitution to not recognize gay marriage, many years ago. I don’t care if you agree with it or not, the MAJORITY voted to amend our state constitution and a MINORITY told us we couldn’t keep it that way.
So what is it, what do you want? Majority rule? Minority rule? Representative rule? Oh, I know ... YOUR rule, whatever it is.
Please come explain to this mouth breather how your ‘enlightened’ view of the world works.
KC
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Did MM finally pass his state's 8th Grade US Constitution Test? And want to share what he learned?
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Did MM finally pass his state's 8th Grade US Constitution Test? And want to share what he learned?
Meh. Copy and paste is all that it did, MM still has no clue what is in the constitution. eg. ask MM what militia or well regulated means in the 2nd.
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MineralMan
One part, the House of Representatives was based on the concept of "one person, one vote."
Huh!?! Did rockhead forget that, for the most part, only males who were land owners could vote (actually, who was and was not eligible to vote was determined by the individual States)?
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Huh!?! Did rockhead forget that, for the most part, only males who were land owners could vote (actually, who was and was not eligible to vote was determined by the individual States)?
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Not to mention the senate/senators were originally designed to represent the state governments.
Dummies and libs want to change the constitution so they can take over the federal government.
Scratch a liberal find a fascist.
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Because retards like CA, NY, NJ, DE, VT, MA and others are....well retards. Stupid question... next?
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time to send this DUmbass a full set of Schoolhouse Rock. Although it is above its IQ level they amy help in remedial civics.
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Just when you think that AOC is at the bottom of the stupid pool you find some other bottom dweller that goes lower.
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Apparently, these traitorous cretins don't know Google is a search engine that can find answers questions to questions like that.
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Mineral Man has actually stated FACTS into why the senate was designated as such, to represent the states. Even I couldn't give as succinct and accurate a summation (though probably copy/pasted from a relatively moron-free source).
I'm surprised that he isn't taken to task for posting the facts, tbh.
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maxsolomon (18,213 posts)
22. Burn the Senate to the Ground.
Not only is it undemocratic and barely "representational", it is filled with some one the worst humans in the country. Elderly, tottering grandees, blathering know-nothings whose only purpose is to stall progress, and whose only qualification is wealth or connections.
McConnell has been there for THIRTY ******* YEARS. How old was that racist hypocrite Strom Thurmond when he left, 99? He served from 1954 to 2002!
My niece was a Senate Page, and every time we spoke, I asked her to kick a Republican in the nuts. She never did, though...
Patrick Leahy is the longest serving senator, he has been there 44 years. :whistling:
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Patrick Leahy is the longest serving senator, he has been there 44 years. :whistling:
Grand Klegal of the KKK Robert Bird served 51 years. Just sayin.
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Grand Klegal of the KKK Robert Bird served 51 years. Just sayin.
Kind of off topic, but in the wake of tearing down all the Confederate memorials, when will wv be renaming the Robert c bird freeway? Having one named after a grand dragon seems the height of hypocrisy
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Kind of off topic, but in the wake of tearing down all the Confederate memorials, when will wv be renaming the Robert c bird freeway? Having one named after a grand dragon seems the height of hypocrisy
Were it only one.
List of places named after Robert Byrd
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
The Robert C. Byrd Green Bank Telescope in Green Bank, West Virginia.
Robert C. Byrd Academic and Technology Center, Marshall University in Huntington, West Virginia[6][9][10]
Robert C. Byrd Academic and Technology Center, Marshall University Graduate College in South Charleston, West Virginia[9][10]
Robert C. Byrd Auditorium, National Conservation Training Center in Shepherdstown, West Virginia[9][10][11]
Robert C. Byrd Biotechnology Science Center, Marshall University in Huntington, West Virginia[6][9][10][12][13]
Robert C. Byrd Cancer Research Laboratory, West Virginia University in Morgantown, West Virginia[6][9][10]
Robert C. Byrd Center for Legislative Studies, Shepherd University in Shepherdstown, West Virginia[9][10][14]
Robert C. Byrd Center for Pharmacy Education, University of Charleston in Charleston, West Virginia[9][10]
Robert C. Byrd Center for Rural Health, Marshall University in Huntington, West Virginia[6][9]
Robert C. Byrd Clinical Teaching Center, Charleston Area Medical Center Memorial Hospital in Charleston, West Virginia[9][10]
Robert C. Byrd Green Bank Telescope, Green Bank, West Virginia[6][9][10]
Robert C. Byrd Hardwood Technologies Center, Princeton, West Virginia[6][9][10]
Robert C. Byrd Health and Wellness Center, Bethany College in Bethany, West Virginia[9][10]
Robert C. Byrd Health Sciences Center, West Virginia University in Morgantown, West Virginia[6][9][10]
Robert C. Byrd Health Sciences Center Charleston Division, Charleston, West Virginia[9]
Robert C. Byrd High School, Clarksburg, West Virginia[6][9][15]
Robert C. Byrd Institute for Advanced Flexible Manufacturing (RCBI) Bridgeport Manufacturing Technology Center, Bridgeport, West Virginia[9][10][16]
RCBI Charleston Manufacturing Technology Center, South Charleston, West Virginia[6][9][10][16]
RCBI Huntington Manufacturing Technology Center, Huntington, West Virginia[9][10][16]
RCBI Rocket Center Manufacturing Technology Center, Rocket Center, West Virginia[9][10][16][17]
Robert C. Byrd Institute for Composites Technology and Training Center, Bridgeport, West Virginia[9]
Robert C. Byrd Library, Wheeling, West Virginia[9]
Robert C. Byrd Library and Robert C. Byrd Learning Resource Center, University of Charleston in Beckley[6][9][10]
Robert C. Byrd Life Long Learning Center, Eastern West Virginia Community and Technical College in Moorefield, West Virginia[9]
Robert C. Byrd Life Long Learning Center, West Virginia University in Morgantown, West Virginia[10]
Robert C. Byrd Metals Fabrication Center, Rocket Center, West Virginia[9][10][17]
Robert C. Byrd National Aerospace Education Center, Bridgeport, West Virginia (affiliated with Fairmont State University)[9][10]
Robert C. Byrd National Technology Transfer Center, Wheeling Jesuit University in Wheeling, West Virginia[6][9][18]
Robert C. Byrd Regional Training Institute, Camp Dawson near Kingwood, West Virginia[9]
Robert C. Byrd Science and Technology Center, Shepherd University in Shepherdstown, West Virginia[6][9][10]
Robert C. Byrd Technology Center, Alderson–Broaddus College in Philippi, West Virginia[6][9][10]
Robert C. Byrd United Technical Center[6][10]
Commerce[edit]
Robert C. Byrd Hilltop Office Complex, Rocket Center, West Virginia[6][9][10][17]
Robert C. Byrd Industrial Park, Moorefield, West Virginia[6][9][10]
Community[edit]
Robert C. Byrd Community Center, Pine Grove, West Virginia[6][9][10]
Robert C. Byrd Community Center, Sugar Grove, West Virginia[6][10]
Government[edit]
Robert C. Byrd Rooms, Office of the West Virginia Senate Minority Leader, West Virginia State Capitol in Charleston, West Virginia[9]
Robert C. Byrd United States Courthouse and Federal Building, Beckley, West Virginia[6][9][10]
Robert C. Byrd United States Courthouse and Federal Building, Charleston, West Virginia[6][9][10]
Robert C. Byrd Federal Correctional Institution, Hazelton, West Virginia[6][10]
Healthcare[edit]
Robert C. Byrd Clinic, West Virginia School of Osteopathic Medicine in Lewisburg, West Virginia[6][9][10]
Robert C. Byrd Clinical Addition to Veteran's Hospital, Huntington, West Virginia[6][9][10]
Recreation and tourism[edit]
Robert C. Byrd Addition to the Lodge at Oglebay Park, Wheeling, West Virginia[6][9][10]
Robert C. Byrd Conference Center (also known as the Robert C. Byrd Center for Hospitality and Tourism), Davis & Elkins College in Elkins, West Virginia[6][9][10]
Robert C. Byrd Visitor Center, Harpers Ferry National Historical Park in Harpers Ferry, West Virginia[6][9][10]
Transportation[edit]
The Robert C. Byrd Bridge crossing the Ohio River between Huntington, West Virginia and Chesapeake, Ohio.
Robert C. Byrd Appalachian Highway System, Appalachian Development Highway System in West Virginia[9][10][19]
Robert C. Byrd Bridge, crosses the Ohio River between Huntington, West Virginia and Chesapeake, Ohio[6][9][10][19]
Robert C. Byrd Bridge, Ohio County, West Virginia[19]
Robert C. Byrd Drive, West Virginia Routes 16 and 97 between Beckley and Sophia, West Virginia[6][10]
Robert C. Byrd Expressway, United States Route 22 near Weirton, West Virginia[6][9][10]
Robert C. Byrd Freeway, United States Route 119 between Williamson and Charleston, West Virginia (also known as Corridor G)[6][9]
Robert C. Byrd Highway, United States Route 48 between Weston, West Virginia and the Virginia state line near Wardensville, West Virginia (also known as Corridor H)[6][19]
Robert C. Byrd Interchange on Interstate 77[9]
Robert C. Byrd Interchange on United States Route 19, Birch River, West Virginia[9][19]
Robert C. Byrd Intermodal Transportation Center, Wheeling, West Virginia[9][10]
Robert C. Byrd Locks and Dam, Ohio River in Gallipolis Ferry, West Virginia[6][9][10]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_places_named_after_Robert_Byrd
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Not to mention the senate/senators were originally designed to represent the state governments.
Dummies and libs want to change the constitution so they can take over the federal government.
Scratch a liberal find a fascist.
These days you don't even have to scratch'em.
They don't even bother to put on the mask anymore.