This is why Trump voters call Democrats far left evil socialists.

[Texacon]

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100213010869

shockey80 (3,069 posts)


This is why Trump voters call Democrats far left evil socialists.

 
We gave them social security, medicare, medicaid, healthcare (Obamacare), unions, workers rights, minimum wage, 40 hour work week, overtime pay, unemployment insurance. Dam, we are evil.

I wish you could see me in action when I talk to a Trump voter. It is a thing of beauty. They go silent.

 

I guess my definition of someone 'giving' me something is different that genius up there.     Wouldn't you love to run into this guy on the street with a bunch of people standing around?  It would be awesome to walk away, leaving him blubbering and spitting.

TwilightZone (15,287 posts)

1. That assumes they know or understand anything about history.

That would be a poor assumption.

DemocracyMouse (2,265 posts)

24. That's why we need to return to TRADITIONAL Democratic values

To have a humane infrastructure with that beautiful list above.... PLUS a standout public education system.

But one thing Dems can do to help bring confused Republicans on board is this: all that great infrastructure is FOR THE PURPOSE of REAL FREE ENTERPRISE... for small businesses and freelancers to have a fighting chance against large corporations which are getting unfair advantages like massive tax breaks for oil co's, corporate real estate getting 10 year tax abatements to dump corporate housing on poor and middle class neighborhoods, and tax havens and loop holes every which way.

In other words true free enterprise, not socialism for the wealthy. Democrats MUST SAY THIS or get flooded with shrieking accusations of "communism" or "socialism" (and without knowing the difference bettween socialist and democratic socialism).

qwlauren35 (3,927 posts)

33. Careful on that one.

Democrats gave us Jim Crow. Democrats made sure that domestic workers and farmers were not eligible for social security because those were the primary jobs of black folks in the 1940's.

Let's face forward, please.

Ooops, can't have the truth getting out ... let's not mention that part.

Farmer-Rick (4,508 posts)

57. Democrats also gave us civil rights that the GOP is destroying.

Uhm ... do you have a link to that revisionist history??

ooky (3,966 posts)

2. Making a Trump voter go silent is like taking candy from a baby.

I always start with "how do you know?" and then it's all downhill from there for the Trump voter.

Pepsidog (3,375 posts)

16. That's the approach I take with the ignorant Trumpers. Show them how much they rely on the so-called

socialism they fear so much.

I've been trying to get out of social security for decades.  No dice.  You can't get out.  Wonder why that is?

There's more at the link if you're so inclined to go see how smart they are and how easy it is for them to make Trumpers cry.  LOL  Wonder why they don't sign up over here?  It would be like shooting fish in a barrel for them. 

 

KC

[SVPete]

shockey80 (3,069 posts)

This is why Trump voters call Democrats far left evil socialists.

We gave them 1. social security, 2. medicare, 3. medicaid, 4. healthcare (Obamacare), 5. unions, 6. workers rights, 7. minimum wage ...

Well that's a decrepit piss-poor straw man. Anyway:

1. Not on Social Security and hope I never have to depend on that Ponzi Scheme.

2. Not on Medicare and hope I never have to depend on it (though last I heard, it was illegal for insurance companies to sell basic health insurance to people over 65, so government has stacked that deck). The way Medicare under-compensates doctors for quite a few years has been driving doctors out of serving patients on Medicare.

3. Not on MediCal/Medicaid and hope I never have to depend on it.

4. While OhBummerDon'tCare made my company's health plan more expensive (~$2000/year more expensive!), I have never been on an actual OhBummerDon'tCare plan.

5. Have never been in a union, and glad of it!

6. Since "workers rights" is so nebulous, an amorphous something or other that has evolved over a couple of centuries and more in the US (and traces back to the Law of Moses), Dems cannot lay any greater to "workers rights" than can Rs.

7. In the US, FDR created the first minimum wage. He was a Dem, but far from as socialistic as modern Dems. Speaking personally, I haven't worked for minimum wage since the early-mid 1970s. After that my education had a career path that took me well above minimum wage.

But as my signature quote says,

[BadCat]

social security, medicare, medicaid, healthcare (Obamacare), unions

Ok, if I took every penny the dimocrats forcibly took from me for the above, and invested it and got just 4% interest, I'd have retired a rich man years ago and would have no need for any of it.

Suck on that moonbat.

[Texacon]

social security, medicare, medicaid, healthcare (Obamacare), unions

Ok, if I took every penny the dimocrats forcibly took from me for the above, and invested it and got just 4% interest, I'd have retired a rich man years ago and would have no need for any of it.

Suck on that moonbat.

Not to mention that it would be YOUR money you could use when, and how, you saw fit!  I see them bitching about social security over there all the damn time, until you see a post like this.  Hell, I think over 50% of them are on disability!  To the best of my knowledge social security was never set up to be a catch all.  Those over there on disability bitch because they don't 'earn' enough.  Then the raises are too small.  It's hard to set up an appointment.  You need a lawyer to get your disability.  On and on it goes.

Galveston county was one of the few places that opted out of social security when that was an available option.  Those who go to work with, and retire with, Galveston county retire as bona fide millionaires.  Social security was never a good idea AND was never intended to be a RETIREMENT plan!  It was designed to be nothing more than a supplement to your retirement and it has been raped by ne'er do wells.  Social security is legalized theft and it is a huge pet peeve of mine.

KC

[USA4ME]

SS has always been a money grab. When FDR set it up, there was a reason that retirement age was set at age 65. In the 30’s, men (the overwhelming majority of the workforce) only lived to an average age of 66. Collect money all your working life, pay out a year on average, keep the rest. Not a bad deal if you’re the gov’t.

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[Ralph Wiggum]

shockey80 (3,069 posts)

I wish you could see me in action when I talk to a Trump voter. It is a thing of beauty. They go silent.

 

[J P Sousa]

social security, medicare, medicaid, healthcare (Obamacare), unions

Ok, if I took every penny the dimocrats forcibly took from me for the above, and invested it and got just 4% interest, I'd have retired a rich man years ago and would have no need for any of it.

Suck on that moonbat.

The democraps got us in this mess because none of them can do math. 

[Delmar]

Response to smirkymonkey (Reply #7)Sun Feb 23, 2020, 05:46 PM
Star Member Laelth (22,397 posts)
31. Truman was a REAL Democrat. n/t

-Laelth

You can say that again!

In 1911, the year he turned 27, Truman wrote to his future wife, Bess: ″I think one man is just as good as another so long as he’s honest and decent and not a ****** or a Chinaman. Uncle Will says that the Lord made a white man from dust, a ****** from mud, then He threw up what was left and it came down a Chinaman.″

″(Uncle Will) does hate Chinese and Japs,″ Truman continued. ″So do I. It is race prejudice, I guess. But I am strongly of the opinion Negroes ought to be in Africa, yellow men in Asia and white men in Europe and America.″

More than 25 years later, then-Senator Truman wrote a letter to his daughter describing waiters at The White House as ″an army of coons.″ In a letter to his wife in 1939 he referred to ″****** picnic day.″

In 1941, in a letter to his daughter, he wrote of the Civil War: ″I feel as your old country grandmother has expressed it - ’What a pity a white man like Lee had to surrender to old Grant.‴

https://apnews.com/ab0d537a112c3554373a97dff54c0e60

[Texacon]

You can say that again!
https://apnews.com/ab0d537a112c3554373a97dff54c0e60

Well since he was a democrat DU would be fine with all that. He EVOLVED. Find anything like that from a Republican, uh ... lol, there wouldn’t be an excuse big enough.

KC

[Karin]

Bonus mini bouncy

Response to shockey80 (Original post)
Sun Feb 23, 2020, 02:16 PM
 NoMoreRepugs (3,226 posts)
19. Ran into a MAGA hat wearin fellow dog walker

this afternoon coming in other direction loudly talking to person with him about how young people support Bernie because they want EVERYTHING for FREE. I am not a Bernie supporter but I did have to say with EMPHASIS “Do you really believe that??” - while making sure I got close enough so he could read the ACLU logo on my hat. He mumbled something unintelligible and went in the other direction.

Then there was this:

Response to shockey80 (Original post)
Sun Feb 23, 2020, 10:51 PM
SMC22307 (5,591 posts)
40. The Democratic Party needs to drill this into voters' heads.

Same with historic stock market performance -- better under Dems.

What?

Oh, no, this guy is not for long:

Response to shockey80 (Original post)
Mon Feb 24, 2020, 05:01 AM
 James48 (2,184 posts)
47. One problem.

All of those are “the culture of life”.

Dems have now also become the party of abortion.

We need to be a party of inclusion, that also recognizes those with the values of right to life.

I’m a pro-life Democrat. Just like millions of others- who wants our party to be the big tent where you can support all those values, and still support life.

I will go so far as to agree that government has no business dictating laws around abortion. We can both agree that woman need support services, birth control, and if that fails, prenatal care, adoption assistance, assistance for medical coverage, child care, family leave, and pre-school care. All these supports and more- ARE democratic values.

But please DONT say abortion is a democratic value. Leave it at saying - abortion is something we all agree is NOT the governments business, that it is ok to have differing opinions on abortion, and that everyone hopes that abortion is rare, is a last resort and not a first choice, and that we all can do what we can to support women in making those most difficult decisions.

Can we PLEASE do that? It will make a huge difference.

No, James48, this is not the party for you.  Not anymore.

[jukin]

social security, medicare, medicaid, healthcare (Obamacare), unions

Ok, if I took every penny the dimocrats forcibly took from me for the above, and invested it and got just 4% interest, I'd have retired a rich man years ago and would have no need for any of it.

Suck on that moonbat.

You and me both brother.  I will never see evn half of the money that was stolen from me and taxed as well.

16% of my earnings. If everybody had to file quaterlies and pay the full boat on FICA and medicare it would have died long ago.