DUmmy sees movie about slavery; DUmmies react like it's a news segment

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Star Member chieftain (3,138 posts)

I saw 12 Years a Slave, today.

It may well be that the US will never be able to move beyond our original sin. The physical brutality exposed in the film is horrendous and unremitting. It hovers over all the relationships portrayed. And it is enabled by the total dominion that the white slave owners hold over their "property". It is that denial of the humanity of the other that is at the heart of racism that is graphically portrayed in this excellent, disturbing movie.

I wonder if this DUmbass knows that slavery is (a) a well-known historical fact, and (b) it was outlawed 150 years ago?


Here's the hallmark of a DUmmy: they see a movie depicting something shameful, terrible, and regrettable, yet (see above) OVER FOR 150 YEARS, and they start hand-wringing and laying fresh blame. Which means...you guessed it...they gotta toss an anti-RW word salad:

Star Member Skidmore   <--- DUmbass mourning a dead wood nymph(30,184 posts)
13. We went to see in Saturday and I wanted to post about the experience

Last edited Mon Nov 11, 2013, 11:12 PM USA/ET - Edit history (1)

but it was too raw and stays with me still. The brutality and sense of entitlement portrayed in the film has simply gone underground. That is what is frightening about Solomon Northup's story. It still resonates in modern times. It's in the smirk of George Zimmerman,  You were more likely to own slaves than Zimmerman, you scrunt

 the undisguised hatred from the likes of Craig Cobb, the cynical derision from Ted Cruz and his band of 40 jerks, the twisted logic of the gun cultists who use the Second Amendment as a shield to hide behind in their fear of "the other," and hides behind the hoods of the clan or wears a swastika or looks like the boy or girl next door. It hides behind the words of some of our nation's clergy in their preaching of selectivity for admission to the kingdom.

Holy shit, Skidmark, are you sure you didn't leave anyone out? HR Haldeman, maybe? Earl Butz?


Following the Civil War, the nation swept the ugliness under the carpet and the Union states and federal government elected to turn a blind eye to sop of Jim Crow laws written in the South to allow a region to preserve the sense of racial superiority and a kinder gentler form of servitude.

Especially white cracker honkies like you.


We drove part of the 20 mile drive home in silence. My husband, who is a black man from the Caribbean, reached for my hand after a while and told me that he was glad that we live in the time we do. He's right. It wasn't so long ago that he and I would likely not have been able to become a couple. We look foward to a time when this legacy is less painful to bear.

Yeah...150 years later, the wounds are still fresh. 


"12 Years..." should be viewed by all. I recommend it strongly for the great performances and narrative, but most of all for the excrutiatingly unflinching courage it took for Solomon Northup, who had endured so much, to tell his tale to a nation which was at such a different sensibility than we have now. Honor his life and the lives of all who suffered under this horrific injustice by viewing his story.

I'll see that if you go see Bad Grandpa. That has a few black folks in it too.

Northup's biography is no longer in print but Google Books has a copy which can be downloaded for free at:

Star Member Starry Messenger (22,823 posts)
20. My husband I saw it today too.

Like you, I found the total sense of entitlement from the whites the most horrifying and baffling. It's like a whole culture was run by serial killers. But they considered themselves normal, and that it was their birthright. That they were owed this life. I guess that sense of entitlement still operates today. Such a sickness.

I'll be thinking about the film for a long time.

Wow. Seeing as how you think it's a DOCUMENTARY, why not go visit those slave owners and give them a piece of your mind?

[obumazombie]

This is from Mr. Docudrama, Michael Moore. Aka evil 1%er.

[ExGeeEye]

I wonder when someone will make a movie based on ths Wikipedia article (I know, I know-- Wikipedia is a known Rethuglikkkan Hate Site  ).

[Carl]

I bet if someone made a movie about the brutality of Lenin,Stalin,Mao,Castro,etc...they would hate it.
Hell,they want us to dance on eggshells when talking about muzzie butchers in the news.

[diesel driver]

I wonder if any of the DUmbasses know that the film's director IS A BLACK MAN!!!

[whiffleball]

"Our original sin"?   How hyperbolic can you get.  This nation would "get over it" if bleeding hearts and perpetual victims would let it go and get on with their lives.  There's dollars and political points in those whistles and drumbeats though, so the music will continue indefinitely. 

[JohnnyReb]

Every DUmmie should rush out and buy a black person and set them free.....and accompany them back to Africa.

I imagine DUmmies would make the very worst slave owners....I base my assumption on their present day desire to control every little detail of peoples lives and to use any method to do so.

[ChuckJ]

The liberals and DUmmies always act like slavery is a creation of the whites, and the only ones who suffered the sting of slavery was the blacks.

Slavery has been around almost since the dawn of time. The ancient Egyptians (who were not white) had slaves. The Greeks had slaves. The Romans had slaves. Of course the Dummies probably consider the ancient Greeks and Romans as white since they were not as dark skinned as Africans.

Many of the initial population of the state of Georgia were indentured servants (essentially slaves), and they were white.

The Africans brought to the US on slave ships were purchased or traded for from other Africans.

A few years back I was reading on Amnesty International’s website and found that slavery is still going on in Africa.

You have to remember that the saddest thing about slavery is not the potential physical abuse. The saddest thing about slavery is the lack of freedom. With that said, slavery is becoming more widespread in the US these days. People are having their freedoms stripped away, having their possessions and money taken, and are increasingly being told what they can or can not do. These days the slave master is the government and the slaves are the citizens.

The question to the Dummies is this: Are you striving to break all people free from the bonds of slavery or are you perpetuating slavery by bending over and saying, “Please, master, may I have another?”

[Big Dog]

"Our original sin"?   How hyperbolic can you get.  This nation would "get over it" if bleeding hearts and perpetual victims would let it go and get on with their lives.  There's dollars and political points in those whistles and drumbeats though, so the music will continue indefinitely. 

The DUmmies reject the Christian idea of original sin, while attempting to impute a social "original sin" onto us all.

A =/= Not A, lurking DUmmies.

[txradioguy]

Slavery existed among Native Americans before it was introduced by the Europeans, although it was unlike chattel slavery where slaves become the personal property of a master. In oral tradition, for instance, Cherokees recounted people being enslaved as the result of failure in warfare, and as a temporary status pending adoption or release.[27] As the United States Constitution and the laws of several states permitted slavery, Native Americans were legally allowed to own slaves, including those brought from Africa by Europeans. Benjamin Hawkins was the federal agent assigned to the southeastern tribes in the 1790s and advised the tribes to take up slaveholding.[20] The Cherokee tribe had the most members who held black slaves, more than any other Native American nation.[28]
 
In colonial North America, the first exposure that Africans and Native Americans had to each other came from Africans being imported as laborers, both indentured servants and as slaves.[10] Records from the slavery period show several cases of brutal Native American treatment of black slaves. However, most Native American masters rejected the worst features of Southern practices.[11] Federal Agent Hawkins considered the form of slavery the tribes were practicing to be inefficient because the majority didn't practice chattel slavery.[20] Travelers reported enslaved Africans "in as good circumstances as their masters." A white Indian Agent, Douglas Cooper, upset by the Native American failure to practice more severe rules, insisted that Native Americans invite white men to live in their villages and "control matters."[11] Though less than 3% of Native Americans owned slaves, racial bondage and pressure from European-American culture created destructive cleavages in their villages. Many had a class hierarchy based on "white blood."[11] Native Americans of mixed white blood stood at the top, "pure" Native Americans next, and people of African descent were at the bottom.[11] As among mixed-race African Americans, some of the status of white descent may also have been related to the economic and social capital passed on by white relations.
 
Numerous people of African descent were held as slaves by members of Native groups up until the Civil War. Some later recounted their lives for a WPA oral history project during the Great Depression in the 1930s.[29]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Indians_in_the_United_States


 

[FiddyBeowulf]

Star Member Starry Messenger (22,823 posts)
20. My husband I saw it today too.

Like you, I found the total sense of entitlement from the whites the most horrifying and baffling. It's like a whole culture was run by serial killers. But they considered themselves normal, and that it was their birthright. That they were owed this life. I guess that sense of entitlement still operates today. Such a sickness.

I'll be thinking about the film for a long time.

If there was a sense of entitlement it came from the "settled science" of the time that blacks were inferior to whites. If it still operates today it would have to be in the form of an overreaching government bureaucracy and the democrats that enable them that seeks to tell people where to live, what to eat, what to drive and how much of their income they get to keep.

[txradioguy]

If there was a sense of entitlement it came from the "settled science" of the time that blacks were inferior to whites. If it still operates today it would have to be in the form of an overreaching government bureaucracy and the democrats that enable them that seeks to tell people where to live, what to eat, what to drive and how much of their income they get to keep.

Dems still operate on that premise today.  Even though it was a Nixon creation...look at how the Dems have taken Affirmative Action and run with it.

[GOBUCKS]

I am pretty sure Hollywood people were meticulous in portraying slavery exactly as it was, unaffected by their 21st century socialist dogma. They've always been unbiased like that.

[Ptarmigan]

Slavery existed among Native Americans before it was introduced by the Europeans, although it was unlike chattel slavery where slaves become the personal property of a master. In oral tradition, for instance, Cherokees recounted people being enslaved as the result of failure in warfare, and as a temporary status pending adoption or release.[27] As the United States Constitution and the laws of several states permitted slavery, Native Americans were legally allowed to own slaves, including those brought from Africa by Europeans. Benjamin Hawkins was the federal agent assigned to the southeastern tribes in the 1790s and advised the tribes to take up slaveholding.[20] The Cherokee tribe had the most members who held black slaves, more than any other Native American nation.[28]
 
In colonial North America, the first exposure that Africans and Native Americans had to each other came from Africans being imported as laborers, both indentured servants and as slaves.[10] Records from the slavery period show several cases of brutal Native American treatment of black slaves. However, most Native American masters rejected the worst features of Southern practices.[11] Federal Agent Hawkins considered the form of slavery the tribes were practicing to be inefficient because the majority didn't practice chattel slavery.[20] Travelers reported enslaved Africans "in as good circumstances as their masters." A white Indian Agent, Douglas Cooper, upset by the Native American failure to practice more severe rules, insisted that Native Americans invite white men to live in their villages and "control matters."[11] Though less than 3% of Native Americans owned slaves, racial bondage and pressure from European-American culture created destructive cleavages in their villages. Many had a class hierarchy based on "white blood."[11] Native Americans of mixed white blood stood at the top, "pure" Native Americans next, and people of African descent were at the bottom.[11] As among mixed-race African Americans, some of the status of white descent may also have been related to the economic and social capital passed on by white relations.
 
Numerous people of African descent were held as slaves by members of Native groups up until the Civil War. Some later recounted their lives for a WPA oral history project during the Great Depression in the 1930s.[29]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Indians_in_the_United_States


 

Arab Muslims engage in slavery and still do to this very day.

Arab slave trade
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arab_slave_trade

The Arab slave trade: 200 million non-Muslim slaves from all colors and nationalities
http://themuslimissue.wordpress.com/2012/08/27/the-arab-slave-trade-and-200-million-non-muslim-slaves-of-all-skin-colors/

[GOBUCKS]

Numerous people of African descent were held as slaves by members of Native groups up until the Civil War. Some later recounted their lives for a WPA oral history project during the Great Depression in the 1930s.

The Noble Savages relocated on the "trail of tears" took their black slaves with them.

[Traveshamockery]

Did DUmmie Pam Dawson (aka demtenjeep/Greenbrier) star in this film?   

[BannedFromDU]

The Noble Savages relocated on the "trail of tears" took their black slaves with them.

     Read it and weep, DUmbassholes. The noblest of all noble people who ever lived, the people whose land we stole so we could enslave the continent of Africa...well...some of them had slaves, too, and they were negro persons!

[Traveshamockery]

    Read it and weep, DUmbassholes. The noblest of all noble people who ever lived, the people whose land we stole so we could enslave the continent of Africa...well...some of them had slaves, too, and they were negro persons!

But, but, but they were tortured and forced to have slaves by Ted Cruz.   

[Tucker]

Every DUmmie should rush out and buy a black person and set them free.....and accompany them back to Africa.

I imagine DUmmies would make the very worst slave owners....I base my assumption on their present day desire to control every little detail of peoples lives and to use any method to do so.

Slave owners were DUmmies. The south was solidly controlled by the democrat party. I'm part of the first generation of conservatives to change east Tennessee from "d" to "R".

[Dori]

None of my ancestors had slaves (none that I can find anyway).  They were mostly poor farmers.  I do have one Great-Great something Grandfather that was a circuit rider, preached to slaves  and opposed slavery.

The United States had a very small portion of the slave trade.  More went to So. America, yet you never hear them being discussed.  Slavery was always controversial in this country and had been declining even before the civil war.

I also think it depended upon the slave owner as to how the slaves were treated.  But according to the left, they were all abused, beaten and raped and I'm sure that's what this movie is all about.

[BannedFromDU]

None of my ancestors had slaves (none that I can find anyway).  They were mostly poor farmers.  I do have one Great-Great something Grandfather that was a circuit rider, preached to slaves  and opposed slavery.

The United States had a very small portion of the slave trade.  More went to So. America, yet you never hear them being discussed.  Slavery was always controversial in this country and had been declining even before the civil war.

I also think it depended upon the slave owner as to how the slaves were treated.  But according to the left, they were all abused, beaten and raped and I'm sure that's what this movie is all about.

     I am all for reparations paid to former slaves. I think a fund should be set up using money contributed by people who feel like giving to it. Then, anyone who can prove they were a slave in any state in the US would be eligible for payouts.

     Pretty cut and dried, if you ask me.

[Wineslob]

Django would beg to differ..........................reality ya know.

[Rebel]

Newsflash, DUmbasses. I'm already over it. Come to think of it, I was never under or parallel to it. It's not "my" ****ing sin. No slaves are alive to apologize for and, come to think of it again, I was born in 1973. I couldn't give a rat's ass about anyone's plight today, I don't care what ****ing color they are. 1st generation immigrants come here and succeed. It's you liberal idiots that keep feeding that line of bullshit that it's all whitey's fault, no fault of their own, that continues to perpetuate this shit.  

[GOBUCKS]

My family had several families of "field hands".

After the war, during which there was no damage beyond theft of some livestock, they stayed on as "farm hands".

There was virtually no change in what they did or how they lived.

The last of them didn't move away until some time in the 1920s.

I suspect that situation was more common than many would believe, at least in the border states.