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Nadin schools the DUmp on automatic weapons
« on: December 14, 2012, 06:50:54 PM »
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10021981871

what's even better is:

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Fri Dec 14, 2012, 05:31 PM
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2. Some of it is from being down range

In shootouts between the Mexican Army and the cartels.

It is a survival skill.

Funny story, line at movie theater at the Last Temptation of Christ. Cops come to do hot stop, and the shotguns come out. I went down, and then proceeded to pull sister and friend behind cover.

Cops later asked how. I told them. 
the cops asked her how.  ::)

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Fri Dec 14, 2012, 05:52 PM
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18. DU has an expert on everything.

Sometimes it's the same person. 

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Response to nadinbrzezinski (Reply #23)
Fri Dec 14, 2012, 06:12 PM
dionysus (21,943 posts)
29. RIFLE. it is spelled RIFLE.. if you want to pretend to be an expert on firearms stop typing "riffle"

for crying out loud, seeing you type "riffle" over and over...
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Fri Dec 14, 2012, 06:27 PM
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39. You are a marvel

Is there nothing you have not done or do not know on this Earth?
Can't wait to see you proclaim to have been an astronaut and lecture us on Astronomy.

:rotf:
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Re: Nadin schools the DUmp on automatic weapons
« Reply #1 on: December 14, 2012, 06:57:20 PM »
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Funny story, line at movie theater at the Last Temptation of Christ. Cops come to do hot stop, and the shotguns come out. I went down, and then proceeded to pull sister and friend behind cover.

Cops later asked how. I told them.

Bet the cops don't make that mistake again.

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Re: Nadin schools the DUmp on automatic weapons
« Reply #2 on: December 14, 2012, 07:00:50 PM »
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11. Sturmgewehr. Sturmweber sounds like an assault grill.

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12. An angry grill...nt

Sid

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Re: Nadin schools the DUmp on automatic weapons
« Reply #3 on: December 14, 2012, 07:04:52 PM »
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42. That's it.



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Re: Nadin schools the DUmp on automatic weapons
« Reply #4 on: December 14, 2012, 07:23:16 PM »
I gotta put the OP in this thread, nutcase nadin is getting hammered.


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Semi auto, it wasn't an automatic weapon!!!!


 
Expect to hear that from our gun fans.

It is true. A semi auto will fire a round every time you pull the trigger

A full auto will keep firing as long as you pull the trigger until you run out of ammo

The former is called accurate fire, because you have far more control over your gun

The latter is called suppressive fire. Keeping control with the recoil is all but easy. And it s otherwise known as spray and pray.

The argument we hear from gun fans is that these are not assault weapons.

Well, the Sturmweber '44 (assault rife) is the grand daddy to the Bushmaster and other riffles derived from the M-16, and the dad to the AK-47. The Germans classified them as assault riffles. They had two modes of fire, semi automatic, like the M-1 Garand, and the revolutionary automatic mode, making it essentially a small machine gun. Soldiers were instructed, like they are today, to keep to semi auto, unless they are in an emergency. This s at the hear of fire discipline.

So now I will get some tell me, you are afraid of how the gun looks! Pure canard, and sorry, but you really do not need anything like this (the Bushmaster is very popular with hunters) to go after deer. If you do, single shot and short magazines should do the job.

So you want to keep your bushmaster, and the rest of the AR -15 family, sure...have them all be single shot. The same goes for the rest of them.

For the record, the Bushmaster is not more scary than the M-1. In fact, the M-1 will have a longer range and penetration power...in a shoot out...well let's put it this way, unfortunately learn how to take cover, because sadly this is not over.


"Sturmweber" :rotf: Assault Grill!
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Re: Nadin schools the DUmp on automatic weapons
« Reply #5 on: December 14, 2012, 07:31:59 PM »
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7. I want to ask a question simply for information and you appear to know what you are talking about

do Semi-Autos fire bursts like three round bursts per squeeze like the M-16 that I was trained on as a Cav Scout?

I really don't know and wanted to find out. Thanks in advance.
Skidmark knows better. He's jerking her chain.  :lmao:
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27. I don't mind learning more of that story

The early M-16 was a disgrace.  
I carried and used an M-16. No letters or numbers after the 16. Never had a malfunction.
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Fri Dec 14, 2012, 06:22 PM
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34. I read a great article on it in a newspaper called "Shotgun News", many, many years ago.

I have since tried to find the article but havent been able to.

As I remember the Army refused to adopt a gun similar to the AR-15 that was so popular. But when they got enough pressure they developed their own version, the M-16. They changed a lot of the good characteristics with the rationalization that the gun needed to be universal and capable of being used in the Arctic and desert. This was while we were heavily involved in a jungle war. The AR-15 was designed to use a particular manufactures cartridge which pushed the slide (sorry dont know the proper term) back far enough to eject the shell and clear the breach of gases. The competing major cartridge manufacturer bribed the Army into using their cartridge which, turns out, didnt quite push the slide (?) back far enough to clear the breach of gases, which contained powder residue. The residue built up over time and caused jamming. The Army's solution, after soldiers were complaining that their fellow soldiers were being killed because of the guns jamming, was to issue cleaning kits.

I am far from being an expert and the above was from memory of an article I read approx 30 years ago. So take that into consideration re. the accuracy.  
Seems I remember the problem being residue fouling of the carrier guide gas port on the bolt carrier group.
For the DUmpmonkeys, the gas port is where gas from the gas tube would push it back, thus activating ejection.

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Fri Dec 14, 2012, 06:09 PM
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28. And I agree with them

Hell, the M-1 Garand is a better weapon for that due to the round.

I wish I did not know this shit.  
Your wish was granted a long time ago.
You really don't know shit.
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Re: Nadin schools the DUmp on automatic weapons
« Reply #6 on: December 14, 2012, 07:34:03 PM »
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8. Conversion kits are technically illegal

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And in some cases all you need is a file.

I will leave it at that.

But the reason they are becoming meaningless is that a well trained shooter can achieved a fairly high rate of fire even in semi auto, I will add controlled fire.

I would rather be down range of somebody shooting at full auto, not semi.

The bald headed dwarf is insane. She doesn't have a clue to what she's talking about. Not a clue.
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Re: Nadin schools the DUmp on automatic weapons
« Reply #7 on: December 14, 2012, 07:46:29 PM »
Is it just my impression here - but is she actually growing less sand and less coherent as time passes ?

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Re: Nadin schools the DUmp on automatic weapons
« Reply #8 on: December 14, 2012, 07:46:51 PM »
I think Nadin has "down range" confused with "deranged" in her case.
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Re: Nadin schools the DUmp on automatic weapons
« Reply #9 on: December 14, 2012, 07:57:11 PM »
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^^^going nuts reading the oblate spheroid.  Get me outta here.
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Re: Nadin schools the DUmp on automatic weapons
« Reply #10 on: December 14, 2012, 08:00:06 PM »
Coach

I didn't know that you do ascII art!

I see a shark with frikken laser beams!
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Re: Nadin schools the DUmp on automatic weapons
« Reply #11 on: December 14, 2012, 08:06:08 PM »
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As I remember the Army refused to adopt a gun similar to the AR-15 that was so popular. But when they got enough pressure they developed their own version, the M-16. They changed a lot of the good characteristics with the rationalization that the gun needed to be universal and capable of being used in the Arctic and desert. This was while we were heavily involved in a jungle war. The AR-15 was designed to use a particular manufactures cartridge which pushed the slide (sorry dont know the proper term) back far enough to eject the shell and clear the breach of gases. The competing major cartridge manufacturer bribed the Army into using their cartridge which, turns out, didnt quite push the slide (?) back far enough to clear the breach of gases, which contained powder residue. The residue built up over time and caused jamming. The Army's solution, after soldiers were complaining that their fellow soldiers were being killed because of the guns jamming, was to issue cleaning kits.

That's the most comical crock of misinformed horseshit I've ever read.
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Re: Nadin schools the DUmp on automatic weapons
« Reply #12 on: December 14, 2012, 08:08:38 PM »
Quote from: EagleKeeper on December 14, 2012, 08:00:06 PM
Coach

I didn't know that you do ascII art!

I see a shark with frikken laser beams!

It's bad, very bad.

I'm researching the oblate spheroid for the Top DUmmie awards, and every time I think she's fallen to a new low of stupidity, damn it, she gets even more stupid.

I can't believe it.
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Re: Nadin schools the DUmp on automatic weapons
« Reply #13 on: December 14, 2012, 08:25:35 PM »
Someone needs to take the TV remote away from her.  I swear half the shit she posts comes straight from basic cable television filtered through a mishmash of bad Spanglish.
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Re: Nadin schools the DUmp on automatic weapons
« Reply #14 on: December 14, 2012, 08:27:42 PM »
Quote from: Chris_ on December 14, 2012, 08:25:35 PM
Someone needs to take the TV remote away from her.  I swear half the shit she posts comes straight from basic cable television filtered through a mishmash of bad Spanglish.

Someone needs to take her keyboard away from her.

I swear, this woman is nuts.

<<is halfway through reading everything the oblate spheroid wrote November 2011-November 2012.

Trust me, she's nuts.
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Re: Nadin schools the DUmp on automatic weapons
« Reply #15 on: December 14, 2012, 08:31:13 PM »
Ok so she would rather be in front of a full auto weapon then a semi automatic one. Let me know how that works out for Gnads when someone lets loose with an XM-134 mini gun.

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Re: Nadin schools the DUmp on automatic weapons
« Reply #16 on: December 14, 2012, 08:35:01 PM »
Nadin is an idiot.  the Thompson submachinegun could be fired on full auto and the shooter could write his name with it.  On the other hand, can we trade her for Hammar?
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Re: Nadin schools the DUmp on automatic weapons
« Reply #17 on: December 14, 2012, 08:42:12 PM »
Quote from: Vagabond on December 14, 2012, 08:35:01 PM
Nadin is an idiot.  the Thompson submachinegun could be fired on full auto and the shooter could write his name with it.  On the other hand, can we trade her for Hammar?
Surprised you're aware of that. Darn thing was quite good on full.
What model did you work with?
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Re: Nadin schools the DUmp on automatic weapons
« Reply #18 on: December 14, 2012, 08:42:47 PM »
Quote from: franksolich on December 14, 2012, 08:27:42 PM
Someone needs to take her keyboard away from her.

I swear, this woman is nuts.

<<is halfway through reading everything the oblate spheroid wrote November 2011-November 2012.

Trust me, she's nuts.

It'll rot your brain and make you go blind.
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Re: Nadin schools the DUmp on automatic weapons
« Reply #19 on: December 14, 2012, 08:45:36 PM »
Quote from: Tucker on December 14, 2012, 08:42:47 PM
It'll rot your brain and make you go blind.

I'm getting the impression the oblate spheroid's going to lose it, and do some harm to people.

CRAZY SHORT BALD DWARF GOES BERSERK, SHOOTS UP FIRE STATION WITH AUTOMATIC RE-LOADING SLINGSHOT, INJURES SEVEN.

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Re: Nadin schools the DUmp on automatic weapons
« Reply #20 on: December 14, 2012, 09:11:56 PM »
Quote from: LC EFA on December 14, 2012, 07:46:29 PM
Is it just my impression here - but is she actually growing less sand and less coherent as time passes ?

As impossible as that sounds,........

...yes.

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28. And I agree with them

Hell, the M-1 Garand is a better weapon for that due to the round.

I wish I did not know this shit.   

Gen. George S. Baldidwarf knows the "greatest battlefield implement yet devised."

jeeez....
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Re: Nadin schools the DUmp on automatic weapons
« Reply #21 on: December 14, 2012, 09:19:01 PM »
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As I remember the Army refused to adopt a gun similar to the AR-15 that was so popular. But when they got enough pressure they developed their own version, the M-16. They changed a lot of the good characteristics with the rationalization that the gun needed to be universal and capable of being used in the Arctic and desert. This was while we were heavily involved in a jungle war. The AR-15 was designed to use a particular manufactures cartridge which pushed the slide (sorry dont know the proper term) back far enough to eject the shell and clear the breach of gases. The competing major cartridge manufacturer bribed the Army into using their cartridge which, turns out, didnt quite push the slide (?) back far enough to clear the breach of gases, which contained powder residue. The residue built up over time and caused jamming. The Army's solution, after soldiers were complaining that their fellow soldiers were being killed because of the guns jamming, was to issue cleaning kits.



Quote from: GOBUCKS on December 14, 2012, 08:06:08 PM

That's the most comical crock of misinformed horseshit I've ever read.

Funny thing is, the (D)Ullard is half right..... kinda sorta, but has the causes and malfunctions all mixed up;  much like their attempts at professing knowledge.

....and we wonder how they get such bizarre notions.....
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Re: Nadin schools the DUmp on automatic weapons
« Reply #22 on: December 14, 2012, 09:23:01 PM »
I think Nadine should get the award for the most stupid person on the planet. God she is pathetic.
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Re: Nadin schools the DUmp on automatic weapons
« Reply #23 on: December 14, 2012, 09:26:05 PM »
Is this a Sturmweber do you think?

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Re: Nadin schools the DUmp on automatic weapons
« Reply #24 on: December 14, 2012, 09:46:23 PM »
Quote from: redwhit on December 14, 2012, 09:26:05 PM
Is this a Sturmweber do you think?



Heh!!

I want one.
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