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Re: "Demoralized" (proud2BlibKansan)
« Reply #25 on: December 11, 2010, 10:11:59 AM »
But how does Missouri rank?

Remember, the Die alte Sau lives in Kansas, but teaches in Missouri (Kansas City, Missouri).

Let's just say we'd rank a Hell of a lot higher if it wasn't for the Democrat-controlled bastions of KC and St. Louis being rolled up in the numbers.
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Re: "Demoralized" (proud2BlibKansan)
« Reply #26 on: December 11, 2010, 10:23:05 AM »
Ahem ....

 :argh:

You should clarify.  A 'Crappy little town in East Texas' is equivalent to a major metropolitan area in any other state. 

One of the 'Crappy Little Towns' around here is going to the State Play Offs for 3a in football.  We will be playing in Dallas Cowboy Stadium next Friday.  Just got home from the Semi-Final game.

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I'm sorry Texacon - I should not refer to the town where he teaches as a "crappy little town."  I'll just say unique.  He lives in a different town than where he teaches.  His school is so small they don't even have a football team - they are totally into basketball.  He teaches in Dallardsville and lives in Livingston (who does have a football team). 

We live near Austin and it was kind of a culture shock to help them move to Livingston.  I'm really sorry if I offended you. 

My son loves that Texas high school football.  He graduated from Stony Point HS in Round Rock which is still in the playoffs for 5A in Texas.  I'll have to check and see if they played last night or today but they are a great football team.  When he first started at Stony Point in 2001 their football team was horrible. 

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Re: "Demoralized" (proud2BlibKansan)
« Reply #27 on: December 11, 2010, 10:28:04 AM »
But how does Missouri rank?

Remember, the Die alte Sau lives in Kansas, but teaches in Missouri (Kansas City, Missouri).
That's right. Education in Missouri is screwed up by DUmmy proud2Bdumb. Kansas is dragged down by the chromosomally-challenged DUmmy Pam Dawson.

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Re: "Demoralized" (proud2BlibKansan)
« Reply #28 on: December 11, 2010, 10:44:07 AM »
Don't you have to have morals to be demoralized? Jus sayin' O-)

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Re: "Demoralized" (proud2BlibKansan)
« Reply #29 on: December 11, 2010, 10:44:40 AM »
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Re: "Demoralized" (proud2BlibKansan)
« Reply #30 on: December 11, 2010, 10:49:19 AM »
http://teachersunionexposed.com/state.cfm?state=MO

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What gets me is that the Die alte Sau complains about "crappy computers" at her school.....yet "crappy computers" hasn't ever prevented her from hanging around Skins's island on school days during school hours.

If one has the inclination, it's always good to check the "time stamps;" I've seen days where the dysmenopausal Kansas school teacher, instead of teaching, has been posting.....all day long.
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Re: "Demoralized" (proud2BlibKansan)
« Reply #31 on: December 11, 2010, 10:57:23 AM »
She's being evaluated for the 4th time in three years?

My husband's been evaluated for the 5th time in four years on Tuesday.  It's to determine his pay raises, things that he needs to improve on, and possible job promotions.  It's not a bad thing to be evaluated dumb ass.

I hope that woman gets to take her job.  I wouldn't want proud2blib as my daughter's teacher.

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Re: "Demoralized" (proud2BlibKansan)
« Reply #32 on: December 11, 2010, 11:07:32 AM »
I hope that woman gets to take her job.

She won't, though.

The Die alte Sau is 58 years old, and has been teaching since the age of 22.  In Missouri, someone who has taught for 30 years gets a handsome retirement pension and benefits, if that person retires.

The dysmenopausal Kansas school teacher's husband, ditto, although he's a few years older and has taught longer.

They're both sitting pretty good; if they were to retire right now, they'd be in great shape.

Kansas City, Missouri, earlier this year decided to close down somewhere between half and two-thirds of their pu8blic schools due to drastically declining population, with a corresponding decrease in personnel.

The Die alte Sau and her husband however pulled seniority, and continue to teach, because every year they teach, the already-generous pensions increase.

Never mind they both already have it pretty good; they want more, they want it all.

As a consequence, there's a couple of young teachers down there in Kansas City, Missouri, working in convenience stores because they don't have jobs teaching; jobs that the dysmenopausal Kansas school teacher and her husband kept.

I'll bet the Die alte Sau isn't losing a minute of sleep over it.

She wants more, she wants it all.

And she has the chutzpah to think she's "morally superior" to decent and civilized people.
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Re: "Demoralized" (proud2BlibKansan)
« Reply #33 on: December 11, 2010, 11:32:18 AM »

I'm sorry Texacon - I should not refer to the town where he teaches as a "crappy little town."  I'll just say unique.  He lives in a different town than where he teaches.  His school is so small they don't even have a football team - they are totally into basketball.  He teaches in Dallardsville and lives in Livingston (who does have a football team). 

We live near Austin and it was kind of a culture shock to help them move to Livingston.  I'm really sorry if I offended you. 

My son loves that Texas high school football.  He graduated from Stony Point HS in Round Rock which is still in the playoffs for 5A in Texas.  I'll have to check and see if they played last night or today but they are a great football team.  When he first started at Stony Point in 2001 their football team was horrible. 

Heh.  I should have put a  :-)  on there.  You didn't upset me.  There ARE a lot of really small towns/districts around here.  Heck, I live in one of the poorest counties in all of Texas.  Some of the stuff around here is sad to say the least.

Don't worry about it.  We all throw rocks at Austin!

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Re: "Demoralized" (proud2BlibKansan)
« Reply #34 on: December 11, 2010, 11:41:29 AM »
One learns from reading the DUmp that ALL towns in Texas, except the Peoples' Republic of Austin, are crappy. Red State Hell.

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Re: "Demoralized" (proud2BlibKansan)
« Reply #35 on: December 11, 2010, 12:04:45 PM »
One learns from reading the DUmp that ALL towns in Texas, except the Peoples' Republic of Austin, are crappy. Red State Hell.

I've noticed that.  WHY don't they like us??!!

 :bawl:

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Re: "Demoralized" (proud2BlibKansan)
« Reply #36 on: December 11, 2010, 12:36:00 PM »
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Re: "Demoralized" (proud2BlibKansan)
« Reply #37 on: December 11, 2010, 01:14:58 PM »
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7. Thank you. That's very nice of you. I thought about discouraging this woman but just didn't have the nerve. She'll find out soon enough that it really isn't an easy job. And to quote my para (who is wonderful and I wouldn't want to do my job without her) the reason it looks easy is because I am good at my job.
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Re: "Demoralized" (proud2BlibKansan)
« Reply #38 on: December 11, 2010, 02:11:42 PM »
Heh.  I should have put a  :-)  on there.  You didn't upset me.  There ARE a lot of really small towns/districts around here.  Heck, I live in one of the poorest counties in all of Texas.  Some of the stuff around here is sad to say the least.

Don't worry about it.  We all throw rocks at Austin!

 :lmao:

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We live in Round Rock but my husband works in Austin.  He drives his big Dodge truck with his "Stop Global Whining" bumper sticker on the back and tailgates people who still have Biden/Obama 2008 stickers on the back.  

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My son's girlfriend works in the same school system as a Pre-K teacher and about a month after they both started teaching there, they both said they discovered that almost all of the kids and people in that school district are related to each other.   :-)

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Re: "Demoralized" (proud2BlibKansan)
« Reply #39 on: December 11, 2010, 07:39:53 PM »
I can say this even when we had teachers here that were left leaning or full blown Dems when I was growing up ,at least we didn;t have to suffer their ideaology or constant bashing of the country. Some did tell us from time to time how they felt about things but they never tried to hit any of us over the head with socialist crap like our favorite Kansas School marm.
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Re: "Demoralized" (proud2BlibKansan)
« Reply #40 on: December 11, 2010, 08:15:48 PM »
I wish Tucker were here.

He's our house expert on the Die alte Sau.

Front and center.

Proud2be teaches special ed at the elementary level at two different schools. She teaches at one school in the AM, drives to another school for the PM lessons.

She has enough time to retire but won't because of her co pay for continued health benefits.
Come to think of it, unions do create jobs. Companies have to hire two workers to do the work of one.

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Re: "Demoralized" (proud2BlibKansan)
« Reply #41 on: December 14, 2010, 07:01:01 AM »
Front and center.

Proud2be teaches special ed at the elementary level at two different schools. She teaches at one school in the AM, drives to another school for the PM lessons.

She has enough time to retire but won't because of her co pay for continued health benefits.


...and the students are smarter than she is.
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Re: "Demoralized" (proud2BlibKansan)
« Reply #42 on: December 14, 2010, 08:04:27 AM »
I was perusing the classifieds here in NY, and it appeared to me that even for substitutes and aides, you had to have a certification and degree in education (correct me if I'm wrong, other NYers).  Masters is required for almost anything else.  How they can get anybody with these requirements to fill these positions in the vast arctic tundra of the North Country is beyond me.  People don't get Masters around here; they learn tree removal and heating systems.  If I were Queen, I would simply require decent civilized people with common sense and some good knowledge of life to hire for these. 

Those education degrees are crap; I majored in it for 2 years.  Nothing but hot air and bullshit. 

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Re: "Demoralized" (proud2BlibKansan)
« Reply #43 on: December 14, 2010, 08:10:09 AM »
I was perusing the classifieds here in NY, and it appeared to me that even for substitutes and aides, you had to have a certification and degree in education (correct me if I'm wrong, other NYers).  Masters is required for almost anything else.  How they can get anybody with these requirements to fill these positions in the vast arctic tundra of the North Country is beyond me.  People don't get Masters around here; they learn tree removal and heating systems.  If I were Queen, I would simply require decent civilized people with common sense and some good knowledge of life to hire for these. 

Those education degrees are crap; I majored in it for 2 years.  Nothing but hot air and bullshit. 

I can get the same results eating pinto beans and cornbread. :-)
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Re: "Demoralized" (proud2BlibKansan)
« Reply #44 on: December 14, 2010, 08:20:39 AM »
I can say this even when we had teachers here that were left leaning or full blown Dems when I was growing up ,at least we didn;t have to suffer their ideaology or constant bashing of the country. Some did tell us from time to time how they felt about things but they never tried to hit any of us over the head with socialist crap like our favorite Kansas School marm.

In High School in my Senior year I took an elective called Current World Affairs, I absolutely loved it, our Teacher was a liberal, but I have to say he was the best Teacher I ever had, he would give his views but he always let us express our views and never once demeaned us for having those views, and I'd say about 95% of the class were Republicans, he was what we'd refer to today as a "real" liberal, the 1's that believe in free speech, he had a great sense of humor and never told us we were wrong when our views differed from his.
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Re: "Demoralized" (proud2BlibKansan)
« Reply #45 on: December 14, 2010, 09:12:18 AM »
My 25-year-old son graduated from college in 2009 with a degree in mass communications and after pursuing a job in broadcasting and there being no jobs realized he would rather teach and coach basketball in high school.

Because he had a degree, he was able to enroll in a program here in Texas called "I Teach Texas" and took several online courses to obtain a probationary teaching license.  He also had to take and pass in-person tests to be certified to teach English and History (he says they were difficult).  He was then able to apply for jobs teaching in any high school in Texas.  Fortunately he found a job in a crappy little town in East Texas where he's completing his one year of field experience.  Upon successful completion of that, he will be eligible to receive his full teaching license.  He's paid a full salary with full benefits.  The cost of this program is about $3500.00.  

He's having a blast.  He coaches the boys basketball team and teaches English to some rather challenging students (it's a very poor school district) but he is thriving and is really glad he decided to pursue teaching.  The State of Texas began this program to allow adults with a college degree with life and business experience to enter teaching.  

I couldn't be prouder of him.  

I imagine that the "para" (teaching assistant?) will be doing the same sort of thing.  I doubt that the exam is the end of the story.  Her teaching assistant experience likely counts as something, and she will likely continue with the teaching requirements after the fact. 

California has emergency credentials as well (not as much anymore, but I'm sure that if I were will to teach at an awful school I could get one), and Teach for America works entirely on that principle.  My friend became a teacher in Texas through Teach for America.

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Re: "Demoralized" (proud2BlibKansan)
« Reply #46 on: December 14, 2010, 09:25:01 AM »
When I sold my firm in 2004, my better half and I talked about teaching. She said that I would go crazy
not having my days filled. Being a semi-old fart, I joined the "I Teach Texas" program. When the regional
office in Houston reviewed my application,degrees and experience, they called and asked when could I start? I spent a spring semester teaching Trig and Economics. I had a blast.

What I viewed with teaching (This is my opinion only) is that the longer you rest on your merits, the more bitter you become. I was not with a HS for one week when I had a couple of teachers come into the class room during my lunch break and start asking me why I got paid the amount of money that my contract stated?

I was pissed. I told them that was none of their business.

One "lady" said that she had a masters in English and an undergrad in Theater Arts. I said great.
She asked, "What makes you qualified to teach?"  I told her.

This is what is important. This lady said she got into to teaching because she could have her summers off
and that she could care less if the kids learned, much less pass her course. I would have liked to think she was merely throwing out bait to see if I would take it.

Point is, she retired two years later. I still get to teach and what is funny, is that the kids are really
wanting to learn. They want to be challenged.

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Re: "Demoralized" (proud2BlibKansan)
« Reply #47 on: December 14, 2010, 09:58:06 AM »
My son says he knows he's made the right decision going into teaching and coaching.  Even if he were able to get a job in broadcasting, those jobs are pretty few and far between and would involve a lot of moving around the country to move up.  He works a lot of hours but I think he is finding it pretty rewarding. 


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Re: "Demoralized" (proud2BlibKansan)
« Reply #48 on: December 14, 2010, 10:05:01 AM »
I was perusing the classifieds here in NY, and it appeared to me that even for substitutes and aides, you had to have a certification and degree in education (correct me if I'm wrong, other NYers).  Masters is required for almost anything else.

I'll ask the young teachers I know.
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Re: "Demoralized" (proud2BlibKansan)
« Reply #49 on: December 14, 2010, 10:32:46 AM »
In a lot of the Heartland, you only need a BA/BS to sub; if you are going to be a full-timer, you can get in at the entry level with the bachelor's degree with all the State's required Ed credits and supporting courses, but then in most states you have to be on a masters track and complete it within a certain number of years to stay on board.  As far as Summers go, actual mileage may vary, but a lot of teachers use them to take short courses in their specialties to keep up, or get additional certifications or continuing ed, not just to screw off. 

There are, of course, some who do the minimum to keep the clock punched in the classroom for nine months and then go on cruises or otherwise screw off all Summer.  Not naming any names there...
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