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Title: "Demoralized" (proud2BlibKansan)
Post by: Tess Anderson on December 10, 2010, 09:33:36 PM
A nominee's thread:

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Petty, jealous, and competitive as usual - "demoralizing" to me is reading this and realizing she's still a teacher:

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proud2BlibKansan  (1000+ posts)        Fri Dec-10-10 08:22 PM
Original message
Demoralized
 I think I pay attention and know what's up but every once in awhile I get a surprise. This week, I found out that in the state where I teach, you can take a test and become a teacher. All you need is a college degree. It could be in basket weaving (and as a child of the 60s I do believe there are colleges out there that offer degrees in basket weaving - if there are not, please don't destroy my illusion ).

Anyhow, we have a new employee in our school. She was hired as a para but is a recently certified new teacher. She applied for a teaching position but there is a hiring freeze for teachers so she was hired as a para. She has decided that my job looks easy and so she is taking a test in January and if she passes, she too can be a sped teacher.

So my masters degree means nothing other than a few dollars more in my paycheck. I'm thinking of burning my thesis this weekend. When I think that I spent an entire summer working on that masterpiece, which was mandated for the degree I was seeking, which was also mandated for me to be certified in sped . . . .

Next week I will be evaluated for the 4th time in 3 years. I get to put on a dog and pony show while my principal sits and watches and takes notes. One of the components of our new evaluation (another new form - woopee!) is use of technology. I have 3 computers that work sort of, one that doesn't work at all, an overhead that is not worth turning on, and a tape recorder. Oh and a few Leap Pads. I'm thinking of deliberately NOT using any technology and failing that portion of the evaluation just to make a statement. Because seriously, my score on this evaluation is meaningless to me. Regardless of the number on the paper, I will still show up every morning, feed breakfast to the kids who have to pay and don't have the money, teach for a few hours, feed lunch to the kids who can't afford to pay, read a chapter of a good book to the class, teach for a few more hours, stay after school to work on paperwork and then go home. Next day, repeat. I won't do any of these things with any more or less effort because someone comes in and watches me teach a lesson and then gives me a magic number rating.

The number on my evaluation is meaningless to me. Besides, now that I know that anyone with a degree can take a test and do my job, what's the point?

Not long ago, Diane Ravitch said you can't reform education by demoralizing the very people who will be doing the work necessary to enact the reforms.

Well guess what? I'm demoralized.
 
Title: Re: "Demoralized" (proud2BlibKansan)
Post by: franksolich on December 10, 2010, 09:45:29 PM
There's some stretching here, as usual.

That's a problem with the Die alte Sau, the dysmenopausal Kansas school teacher, as her female organs below the waist seem stretched too.

The laws of Nebraska and Missouri are of course different, but I don't imagine they're that different.

In Nebraska, anyone with a four-year college degree (B.A. or B.S.) in any subject can teach in an elementary or high school.....but only as a substitute teacher, or a short-term temporary.  One cannot become a professional permanent teacher without the prerequisite college credits in education.

And thus no fat pension either.

This is how the Bostonian Drunkard, with a B.A. in "literature," managed to work as a substitute teacher in Massachusetts.  Substitute.

I don't imagine it's much different down there in Missouri.
Title: Re: "Demoralized" (proud2BlibKansan)
Post by: Ballygrl on December 10, 2010, 09:45:59 PM
Is she upset that Nadin is putting up a darn good fight for Top Primitive?
Title: Re: "Demoralized" (proud2BlibKansan)
Post by: Revolution on December 10, 2010, 09:49:47 PM
Is there ever a time this woman DOESN'T feel "demoralized?" Is there ever something feels "meaningful" to her?


Didn't think so...
Title: Re: "Demoralized" (proud2BlibKansan)
Post by: BattleHymn on December 10, 2010, 10:02:07 PM
There's some stretching here, as usual.

That's a problem with the Die alte Sau, the dysmenopausal Kansas school teacher, as her female organs below the waist seem stretched too.

The laws of Nebraska and Missouri are of course different, but I don't imagine they're that different.

In Nebraska, anyone with a four-year college degree (B.A. or B.S.) in any subject can teach in an elementary or high school.....but only as a substitute teacher, or a short-term temporary.  One cannot become a professional permanent teacher without the prerequisite college credits in education.

And thus no fat pension either.

This is how the Bostonian Drunkard, with a B.A. in "literature," managed to work as a substitute teacher in Massachusetts.  Substitute.

I don't imagine it's much different down there in Missouri.

Frank,


My brother and I looked into doing substitute teaching a couple of years back.  I believe all that is required in MO is 60 credit hours at an accredited school.  There may be a certificate, or some other slip of paper, but that is basically all there is to it.  




edited for clarity
Title: Re: "Demoralized" (proud2BlibKansan)
Post by: franksolich on December 10, 2010, 10:03:59 PM
Is she upset that Nadin is putting up a darn good fight for Top Primitive?

During the Democrat National Convention of 2008, it was the Die alte Sau who alleged Cindy Sheehan's hotel room was being bugged by the FBI.

It read as if something out of a 1960s sit-com, "Get Smart" or whatever it was, the FBI using 1960s technology to wire a telephone in 2008.

It was hilarious.
Title: Re: "Demoralized" (proud2BlibKansan)
Post by: franksolich on December 10, 2010, 10:07:23 PM
My brother and I looked into doing substitute teaching a couple of years back.  I believe all that is required in MO is 60 credit hours at an accredited school.  There may be a certificate, or some other slip of paper, but that is basically all there is to it.  

See?  I said probably the laws of Missouri and Nebraska aren't that much different; somewhat different, but not that much.

Nebraska requires a B.A. or a B.S. for a substitute teacher, Missouri requires 60 credit hours (which is about half of a four-year college degree).

I'm damned sure Missouri doesn't allow anyone with 60 credit hours to become a permanent professional teacher, with fringe benefits and fat pensions.
Title: Re: "Demoralized" (proud2BlibKansan)
Post by: Ree on December 10, 2010, 10:09:00 PM
I thought she taught Jr High...WTF is she feedin the kidlets for?
Title: Re: "Demoralized" (proud2BlibKansan)
Post by: Ballygrl on December 10, 2010, 10:13:08 PM
During the Democrat National Convention of 2008, it was the Die alte Sau who alleged Cindy Sheehan's hotel room was being bugged by the FBI.

It read as if something out of a 1960s sit-com, "Get Smart" or whatever it was, the FBI using 1960s technology to wire a telephone in 2008.

It was hilarious.

And she's in charge of teaching the future generations?
Title: Re: "Demoralized" (proud2BlibKansan)
Post by: franksolich on December 10, 2010, 10:17:58 PM
And she's in charge of teaching the future generations?

The Die alte Sau's one of those code pink underwear women.
Title: Re: "Demoralized" (proud2BlibKansan)
Post by: franksolich on December 10, 2010, 10:20:07 PM
I thought she taught Jr High...WTF is she feedin the kidlets for?

I wish Tucker were here.

He's our house expert on the Die alte Sau.
Title: Re: "Demoralized" (proud2BlibKansan)
Post by: Traveshamockery on December 10, 2010, 10:21:19 PM
My 25-year-old son graduated from college in 2009 with a degree in mass communications and after pursuing a job in broadcasting and there being no jobs realized he would rather teach and coach basketball in high school.

Because he had a degree, he was able to enroll in a program here in Texas called "I Teach Texas" and took several online courses to obtain a probationary teaching license.  He also had to take and pass in-person tests to be certified to teach English and History (he says they were difficult).  He was then able to apply for jobs teaching in any high school in Texas.  Fortunately he found a job in a crappy little town in East Texas where he's completing his one year of field experience.  Upon successful completion of that, he will be eligible to receive his full teaching license.  He's paid a full salary with full benefits.  The cost of this program is about $3500.00.  

He's having a blast.  He coaches the boys basketball team and teaches English to some rather challenging students (it's a very poor school district) but he is thriving and is really glad he decided to pursue teaching.  The State of Texas began this program to allow adults with a college degree with life and business experience to enter teaching.  

I couldn't be prouder of him.  
Title: Re: "Demoralized" (proud2BlibKansan)
Post by: franksolich on December 10, 2010, 10:25:27 PM
My 25-year-old son graduated from college in 2009 with a degree in mass communications and after pursuing a job in broadcasting and there being no jobs realized he would rather teach and coach basketball in high school.

Because he had a degree, he was able to enroll in a program here in Texas called "I Teach Texas" and took several online courses to obtain a probationary teaching license.  He also had to take and pass in-person tests to be certified to teach English and History (he says they were difficult).  He was then able to apply for jobs teaching in any high school in Texas.  Fortunately he found a job in a crappy little town in East Texas where he's completing his one year of field experience.  Upon successful completion of that, he will be eligible to receive his full teaching license.  He's paid a full salary with full benefits.  The cost of this program is about $3500.00.  

He's having a blast.  He coaches the boys basketball team and teaches English to some rather challenging students (it's a very poor school district) but he is thriving and is really glad he decided to pursue teaching.  The State of Texas began this program to allow adults with a college degree with life and business experience to enter teaching.  

I couldn't be prouder of him.  

But it's rather, uh, deceitful of the Die alte Sau to suggest that this "teacher" in Missouri with fewer qualifications than what she has, is going to enjoy the same generous pay, magnanimous benefits, and job-protecting seniority that the Die alte Sau does.
Title: Re: "Demoralized" (proud2BlibKansan)
Post by: Traveshamockery on December 10, 2010, 10:31:14 PM
But it's rather, uh, deceitful of the Die alte Sau to suggest that this "teacher" in Missouri with fewer qualifications than what she has, is going to enjoy the same generous pay, magnanimous benefits, and job-protecting seniority that the Die alte Sau does.


She's a liberal democrat.  Deceit is her middle name. 
Title: Re: "Demoralized" (proud2BlibKansan)
Post by: Airwolf on December 10, 2010, 10:42:49 PM
If it means those kids get a much better teacher and education then I guess someone should either get with a program and keep her job or go to the local McDonalds and work the fry station. I would personally bet that she ain't going to put up the effort and a new teacher will be in the works.
Title: Re: "Demoralized" (proud2BlibKansan)
Post by: GOBUCKS on December 10, 2010, 11:31:24 PM
I'd like to see a "teach-off", pitting DUmmy proud2Bdumb against DUmmy Pam Dawson. I'll bet big gobs of knowledge and learning would be flying in every direction, puddling all over the floor, and oozing out from under the door. That's a pair of dedicated educators. People like them make the public school system what it is.
Title: Re: "Demoralized" (proud2BlibKansan)
Post by: Chris_ on December 10, 2010, 11:40:40 PM
big gobs of knowledge and learning would be flying in every direction, puddling all over the floor, and oozing out from under the door
:rotf: :lmao:
Title: Re: "Demoralized" (proud2BlibKansan)
Post by: Texacon on December 11, 2010, 03:04:47 AM
My 25-year-old son graduated from college in 2009 with a degree in mass communications and after pursuing a job in broadcasting and there being no jobs realized he would rather teach and coach basketball in high school.

Because he had a degree, he was able to enroll in a program here in Texas called "I Teach Texas" and took several online courses to obtain a probationary teaching license.  He also had to take and pass in-person tests to be certified to teach English and History (he says they were difficult).  He was then able to apply for jobs teaching in any high school in Texas.  Fortunately he found a job in a crappy little town in East Texas where he's completing his one year of field experience.  Upon successful completion of that, he will be eligible to receive his full teaching license.  He's paid a full salary with full benefits.  The cost of this program is about $3500.00.  

He's having a blast.  He coaches the boys basketball team and teaches English to some rather challenging students (it's a very poor school district) but he is thriving and is really glad he decided to pursue teaching.  The State of Texas began this program to allow adults with a college degree with life and business experience to enter teaching.  

I couldn't be prouder of him.  

Ahem ....

 :argh:

You should clarify.  A 'Crappy little town in East Texas' is equivalent to a major metropolitan area in any other state. 

One of the 'Crappy Little Towns' around here is going to the State Play Offs for 3a in football.  We will be playing in Dallas Cowboy Stadium next Friday.  Just got home from the Semi-Final game.

KC
Title: Re: "Demoralized" (proud2BlibKansan)
Post by: BlueStateSaint on December 11, 2010, 06:35:22 AM
I'd like to see a "teach-off", pitting DUmmy proud2Bdumb against DUmmy Pam Dawson. I'll bet big gobs of knowledge and learning would be flying in every direction, puddling all over the floor, and oozing out from under the door. That's a pair of dedicated educators. People like them make the public school system what it is.

That's definitely H5-worthy. :bow:
Title: Re: "Demoralized" (proud2BlibKansan)
Post by: formerlurker on December 11, 2010, 06:40:09 AM
She is the most vile, disgusting human being I have ever come across.   

proud2BlibKansan, a message to you, if you will allow.   If you worked in my district in MA, I would take incredible delight having your tenured ass fired -- the process of which being absolutely delightful to me, because I would make your job almost impossible for you to come to work everyday.   You are repulsive.  You should not be anywhere near children, never mind children with special needs.   In your entitlement saturated feeble brain, you believe you are a good teacher when you are nothing of the sort.    You sicken me, and have just secured my vote for biggest waste of breath at the DU hands down.   
Title: Re: "Demoralized" (proud2BlibKansan)
Post by: NHSparky on December 11, 2010, 06:58:11 AM
During the Democrat National Convention of 2008, it was the Die alte Sau who alleged Cindy Sheehan's hotel room was being bugged by the FBI.

It read as if something out of a 1960s sit-com, "Get Smart" or whatever it was, the FBI using 1960s technology to wire a telephone in 2008.

It was hilarious.

Considering that if the government has your cell phone number, and provided you haven't changed out your SIM chip, your ESN/MEID/IMEI (Either a 32-bit or 56-bit identifier) is still there, and bugging your phone is about as simple as flicking a switch.

DUmmies, for all their claims of intelligence, really aren't all that savvy.
Title: Re: "Demoralized" (proud2BlibKansan)
Post by: Alpha Mare on December 11, 2010, 07:01:50 AM
Annie, maybe there's a reason you are evaluated "4 times in 3 years"- you suck at teaching.

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Kansas ranks low in policies on teacher quality

by Bob Weeks on December 10, 2010

States are the primary drivers of teacher policy, said Sandi Jacobs, and the states, particularly Kansas, are not doing a good job promoting teacher quality.
Kansas did not make it past the first round of Race to the Top evaluations.

The NCTQ gives an average grade of “D” to the states for their policies regarding teachers. Kansas is below average, earning a grade of “D-.”
Kansas requires multiple evaluations for new teachers, which Jacobs said is a wise policy, even though the evaluation process may not be meaningful. For teacher who have gained tenure, they are evaluated once a year in their first two years after gaining tenure. After that, evaluations are required once every three years.The policy area in which Kansas scored lowest was in exiting, or firing, ineffective teachers. Kansas labor law has special language just for teachers, and this language makes it very difficult to dismiss ineffective teachers.

Kansas is also weak in alternate certification, a process where people may become teachers without going through the traditional route through the education colleges. Kansas schools may hire such teachers only if they certify that no traditionally-prepared teacher is available. Jacobs said that research shows that alternatively-certified teachers perform well. There is strong consensus of evidence that advanced degrees do not make teachers any more effective in the classroom.
http://wichitaliberty.org/wichita-kansas-schools/kansas-ranks-low-in-policies-on-teacher-quality/

Annie, maybe there's a reason you are evaluated "4 times in 3 years"- you suck!
Title: Re: "Demoralized" (proud2BlibKansan)
Post by: BlueStateSaint on December 11, 2010, 07:04:13 AM
Annie, maybe there's a reason you are evaluated "4 times in 3 years"- you suck at teaching.
http://wichitaliberty.org/wichita-kansas-schools/kansas-ranks-low-in-policies-on-teacher-quality/

Annie, maybe there's a reason you are evaluated "4 times in 3 years"- you suck!

H5 for making the point stick with her, by repeating it.
Title: Re: "Demoralized" (proud2BlibKansan)
Post by: VivisMom on December 11, 2010, 07:54:55 AM
Quote
Kansas ranks low in policies on teacher quality

by Bob Weeks on December 10, 2010

States are the primary drivers of teacher policy, said Sandi Jacobs, and the states, particularly Kansas, are not doing a good job promoting teacher quality.
Kansas did not make it past the first round of Race to the Top evaluations.

The NCTQ gives an average grade of “D” to the states for their policies regarding teachers. Kansas is below average, earning a grade of “D-.”
Kansas requires multiple evaluations for new teachers, which Jacobs said is a wise policy, even though the evaluation process may not be meaningful. For teacher who have gained tenure, they are evaluated once a year in their first two years after gaining tenure. After that, evaluations are required once every three years.The policy area in which Kansas scored lowest was in exiting, or firing, ineffective teachers. Kansas labor law has special language just for teachers, and this language makes it very difficult to dismiss ineffective teachers.

Kansas is also weak in alternate certification, a process where people may become teachers without going through the traditional route through the education colleges. Kansas schools may hire such teachers only if they certify that no traditionally-prepared teacher is available. Jacobs said that research shows that alternatively-certified teachers perform well. There is strong consensus of evidence that advanced degrees do not make teachers any more effective in the classroom.[/quote

I have to say, I found this kind of surprising. Even in Baltimore City (which is arguably one of the worst school systems in our country) teachers are evaluated yearly. It may have just been at my particular school, but even the tenured teachers had to put on the dog-and-pony show yearly.

I think our DUmmie friend is leaving out some key elements in her story-most places have a transition to teaching program, similar to what Trav was talking about his son doing. If the 'villain' in this story is already a para-educator, she most likely is only a few credits shy of having a certificate in special ed, and no doubt that the school system is helping her to get those credits. She will have to take the Praxis tests to get fully certified, but it's not so simple as taking a test and magically being certified.

Title: Re: "Demoralized" (proud2BlibKansan)
Post by: franksolich on December 11, 2010, 09:58:37 AM
Annie, maybe there's a reason you are evaluated "4 times in 3 years"- you suck at teaching.
http://wichitaliberty.org/wichita-kansas-schools/kansas-ranks-low-in-policies-on-teacher-quality/

Annie, maybe there's a reason you are evaluated "4 times in 3 years"- you suck!

But how does Missouri rank?

Remember, the Die alte Sau lives in Kansas, but teaches in Missouri (Kansas City, Missouri).
Title: Re: "Demoralized" (proud2BlibKansan)
Post by: DumbAss Tanker on December 11, 2010, 10:11:59 AM
But how does Missouri rank?

Remember, the Die alte Sau lives in Kansas, but teaches in Missouri (Kansas City, Missouri).

Let's just say we'd rank a Hell of a lot higher if it wasn't for the Democrat-controlled bastions of KC and St. Louis being rolled up in the numbers.
Title: Re: "Demoralized" (proud2BlibKansan)
Post by: Traveshamockery on December 11, 2010, 10:23:05 AM
Ahem ....

 :argh:

You should clarify.  A 'Crappy little town in East Texas' is equivalent to a major metropolitan area in any other state. 

One of the 'Crappy Little Towns' around here is going to the State Play Offs for 3a in football.  We will be playing in Dallas Cowboy Stadium next Friday.  Just got home from the Semi-Final game.

KC


I'm sorry Texacon - I should not refer to the town where he teaches as a "crappy little town."  I'll just say unique.  He lives in a different town than where he teaches.  His school is so small they don't even have a football team - they are totally into basketball.  He teaches in Dallardsville and lives in Livingston (who does have a football team). 

We live near Austin and it was kind of a culture shock to help them move to Livingston.  I'm really sorry if I offended you. 

My son loves that Texas high school football.  He graduated from Stony Point HS in Round Rock which is still in the playoffs for 5A in Texas.  I'll have to check and see if they played last night or today but they are a great football team.  When he first started at Stony Point in 2001 their football team was horrible. 
Title: Re: "Demoralized" (proud2BlibKansan)
Post by: GOBUCKS on December 11, 2010, 10:28:04 AM
But how does Missouri rank?

Remember, the Die alte Sau lives in Kansas, but teaches in Missouri (Kansas City, Missouri).
That's right. Education in Missouri is screwed up by DUmmy proud2Bdumb. Kansas is dragged down by the chromosomally-challenged DUmmy Pam Dawson.
Title: Re: "Demoralized" (proud2BlibKansan)
Post by: Randy on December 11, 2010, 10:44:07 AM
Don't you have to have morals to be demoralized? Jus sayin' O-)
Title: Re: "Demoralized" (proud2BlibKansan)
Post by: Alpha Mare on December 11, 2010, 10:44:40 AM
http://teachersunionexposed.com/state.cfm?state=MO (http://)

http://www.nctq.org/stpy09/ (http://www.nctq.org/stpy09/)

(http://e.deviantart.net/emoticons/p/pointandlaugh.gif)Yeah Annie, you still suck!
Title: Re: "Demoralized" (proud2BlibKansan)
Post by: franksolich on December 11, 2010, 10:49:19 AM
http://teachersunionexposed.com/state.cfm?state=MO (http://)

http://www.nctq.org/stpy09/ (http://www.nctq.org/stpy09/)

(http://e.deviantart.net/emoticons/p/pointandlaugh.gif)Yeah Annie, you still suck!


What gets me is that the Die alte Sau complains about "crappy computers" at her school.....yet "crappy computers" hasn't ever prevented her from hanging around Skins's island on school days during school hours.

If one has the inclination, it's always good to check the "time stamps;" I've seen days where the dysmenopausal Kansas school teacher, instead of teaching, has been posting.....all day long.
Title: Re: "Demoralized" (proud2BlibKansan)
Post by: Evil_Conservative on December 11, 2010, 10:57:23 AM
She's being evaluated for the 4th time in three years?

My husband's been evaluated for the 5th time in four years on Tuesday.  It's to determine his pay raises, things that he needs to improve on, and possible job promotions.  It's not a bad thing to be evaluated dumb ass.

I hope that woman gets to take her job.  I wouldn't want proud2blib as my daughter's teacher.

Sorry, I haven't read all three pages yet.
Title: Re: "Demoralized" (proud2BlibKansan)
Post by: franksolich on December 11, 2010, 11:07:32 AM
I hope that woman gets to take her job.

She won't, though.

The Die alte Sau is 58 years old, and has been teaching since the age of 22.  In Missouri, someone who has taught for 30 years gets a handsome retirement pension and benefits, if that person retires.

The dysmenopausal Kansas school teacher's husband, ditto, although he's a few years older and has taught longer.

They're both sitting pretty good; if they were to retire right now, they'd be in great shape.

Kansas City, Missouri, earlier this year decided to close down somewhere between half and two-thirds of their pu8blic schools due to drastically declining population, with a corresponding decrease in personnel.

The Die alte Sau and her husband however pulled seniority, and continue to teach, because every year they teach, the already-generous pensions increase.

Never mind they both already have it pretty good; they want more, they want it all.

As a consequence, there's a couple of young teachers down there in Kansas City, Missouri, working in convenience stores because they don't have jobs teaching; jobs that the dysmenopausal Kansas school teacher and her husband kept.

I'll bet the Die alte Sau isn't losing a minute of sleep over it.

She wants more, she wants it all.

And she has the chutzpah to think she's "morally superior" to decent and civilized people.
Title: Re: "Demoralized" (proud2BlibKansan)
Post by: Texacon on December 11, 2010, 11:32:18 AM

I'm sorry Texacon - I should not refer to the town where he teaches as a "crappy little town."  I'll just say unique.  He lives in a different town than where he teaches.  His school is so small they don't even have a football team - they are totally into basketball.  He teaches in Dallardsville and lives in Livingston (who does have a football team). 

We live near Austin and it was kind of a culture shock to help them move to Livingston.  I'm really sorry if I offended you. 

My son loves that Texas high school football.  He graduated from Stony Point HS in Round Rock which is still in the playoffs for 5A in Texas.  I'll have to check and see if they played last night or today but they are a great football team.  When he first started at Stony Point in 2001 their football team was horrible. 

Heh.  I should have put a  :-)  on there.  You didn't upset me.  There ARE a lot of really small towns/districts around here.  Heck, I live in one of the poorest counties in all of Texas.  Some of the stuff around here is sad to say the least.

Don't worry about it.  We all throw rocks at Austin!

 :lmao:

KC
Title: Re: "Demoralized" (proud2BlibKansan)
Post by: GOBUCKS on December 11, 2010, 11:41:29 AM
One learns from reading the DUmp that ALL towns in Texas, except the Peoples' Republic of Austin, are crappy. Red State Hell.
Title: Re: "Demoralized" (proud2BlibKansan)
Post by: Texacon on December 11, 2010, 12:04:45 PM
One learns from reading the DUmp that ALL towns in Texas, except the Peoples' Republic of Austin, are crappy. Red State Hell.

I've noticed that.  WHY don't they like us??!!

 :bawl:

 :lmao:

KC
Title: Re: "Demoralized" (proud2BlibKansan)
Post by: JohnnyReb on December 11, 2010, 12:36:00 PM
A liberals red state hell is Gods' little corner to others.
Title: Re: "Demoralized" (proud2BlibKansan)
Post by: true_blood on December 11, 2010, 01:14:58 PM
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proud2BlibKansan  Donating Member  (1000+ posts)     Fri Dec-10-10 08:38 PM
Response to Reply #4
7. Thank you. That's very nice of you. I thought about discouraging this woman but just didn't have the nerve. She'll find out soon enough that it really isn't an easy job. And to quote my para (who is wonderful and I wouldn't want to do my job without her) the reason it looks easy is because I am good at my job.
I know that sounds arrogant but I don't get many props these days so I give them to myself. :)
The primitive finds ways to give herself a pat on the back.  ::) ::)
Gotta do whatever it takes, no matter what. Even if it means stooping to new lows. Typical liberal.
Title: Re: "Demoralized" (proud2BlibKansan)
Post by: Traveshamockery on December 11, 2010, 02:11:42 PM
Heh.  I should have put a  :-)  on there.  You didn't upset me.  There ARE a lot of really small towns/districts around here.  Heck, I live in one of the poorest counties in all of Texas.  Some of the stuff around here is sad to say the least.

Don't worry about it.  We all throw rocks at Austin!

 :lmao:

KC


 :cheersmate:

We live in Round Rock but my husband works in Austin.  He drives his big Dodge truck with his "Stop Global Whining" bumper sticker on the back and tailgates people who still have Biden/Obama 2008 stickers on the back.  

 :rotf:


My son's girlfriend works in the same school system as a Pre-K teacher and about a month after they both started teaching there, they both said they discovered that almost all of the kids and people in that school district are related to each other.   :-)
Title: Re: "Demoralized" (proud2BlibKansan)
Post by: Airwolf on December 11, 2010, 07:39:53 PM
I can say this even when we had teachers here that were left leaning or full blown Dems when I was growing up ,at least we didn;t have to suffer their ideaology or constant bashing of the country. Some did tell us from time to time how they felt about things but they never tried to hit any of us over the head with socialist crap like our favorite Kansas School marm.
Title: Re: "Demoralized" (proud2BlibKansan)
Post by: Tucker on December 11, 2010, 08:15:48 PM
I wish Tucker were here.

He's our house expert on the Die alte Sau.

Front and center.

Proud2be teaches special ed at the elementary level at two different schools. She teaches at one school in the AM, drives to another school for the PM lessons.

She has enough time to retire but won't because of her co pay for continued health benefits.
Title: Re: "Demoralized" (proud2BlibKansan)
Post by: JohnnyReb on December 14, 2010, 07:01:01 AM
Front and center.

Proud2be teaches special ed at the elementary level  at two different schools. She teaches at one school in the AM, drives to another school for the PM lessons.

She has enough time to retire but won't because of her co pay for continued health benefits.


...and the students are smarter than she is.
Title: Re: "Demoralized" (proud2BlibKansan)
Post by: Karin on December 14, 2010, 08:04:27 AM
I was perusing the classifieds here in NY, and it appeared to me that even for substitutes and aides, you had to have a certification and degree in education (correct me if I'm wrong, other NYers).  Masters is required for almost anything else.  How they can get anybody with these requirements to fill these positions in the vast arctic tundra of the North Country is beyond me.  People don't get Masters around here; they learn tree removal and heating systems.  If I were Queen, I would simply require decent civilized people with common sense and some good knowledge of life to hire for these. 

Those education degrees are crap; I majored in it for 2 years.  Nothing but hot air and bullshit. 
Title: Re: "Demoralized" (proud2BlibKansan)
Post by: Tucker on December 14, 2010, 08:10:09 AM
I was perusing the classifieds here in NY, and it appeared to me that even for substitutes and aides, you had to have a certification and degree in education (correct me if I'm wrong, other NYers).  Masters is required for almost anything else.  How they can get anybody with these requirements to fill these positions in the vast arctic tundra of the North Country is beyond me.  People don't get Masters around here; they learn tree removal and heating systems.  If I were Queen, I would simply require decent civilized people with common sense and some good knowledge of life to hire for these. 

Those education degrees are crap; I majored in it for 2 years.  Nothing but hot air and bullshit. 

I can get the same results eating pinto beans and cornbread. :-)
Title: Re: "Demoralized" (proud2BlibKansan)
Post by: Ballygrl on December 14, 2010, 08:20:39 AM
I can say this even when we had teachers here that were left leaning or full blown Dems when I was growing up ,at least we didn;t have to suffer their ideaology or constant bashing of the country. Some did tell us from time to time how they felt about things but they never tried to hit any of us over the head with socialist crap like our favorite Kansas School marm.

In High School in my Senior year I took an elective called Current World Affairs, I absolutely loved it, our Teacher was a liberal, but I have to say he was the best Teacher I ever had, he would give his views but he always let us express our views and never once demeaned us for having those views, and I'd say about 95% of the class were Republicans, he was what we'd refer to today as a "real" liberal, the 1's that believe in free speech, he had a great sense of humor and never told us we were wrong when our views differed from his.
Title: Re: "Demoralized" (proud2BlibKansan)
Post by: Celtic Rose on December 14, 2010, 09:12:18 AM
My 25-year-old son graduated from college in 2009 with a degree in mass communications and after pursuing a job in broadcasting and there being no jobs realized he would rather teach and coach basketball in high school.

Because he had a degree, he was able to enroll in a program here in Texas called "I Teach Texas" and took several online courses to obtain a probationary teaching license.  He also had to take and pass in-person tests to be certified to teach English and History (he says they were difficult).  He was then able to apply for jobs teaching in any high school in Texas.  Fortunately he found a job in a crappy little town in East Texas where he's completing his one year of field experience.  Upon successful completion of that, he will be eligible to receive his full teaching license.  He's paid a full salary with full benefits.  The cost of this program is about $3500.00.  

He's having a blast.  He coaches the boys basketball team and teaches English to some rather challenging students (it's a very poor school district) but he is thriving and is really glad he decided to pursue teaching.  The State of Texas began this program to allow adults with a college degree with life and business experience to enter teaching.  

I couldn't be prouder of him.  

I imagine that the "para" (teaching assistant?) will be doing the same sort of thing.  I doubt that the exam is the end of the story.  Her teaching assistant experience likely counts as something, and she will likely continue with the teaching requirements after the fact. 

California has emergency credentials as well (not as much anymore, but I'm sure that if I were will to teach at an awful school I could get one), and Teach for America works entirely on that principle.  My friend became a teacher in Texas through Teach for America.
Title: Re: "Demoralized" (proud2BlibKansan)
Post by: ReaganForRushmore on December 14, 2010, 09:25:01 AM
When I sold my firm in 2004, my better half and I talked about teaching. She said that I would go crazy
not having my days filled. Being a semi-old fart, I joined the "I Teach Texas" program. When the regional
office in Houston reviewed my application,degrees and experience, they called and asked when could I start? I spent a spring semester teaching Trig and Economics. I had a blast.

What I viewed with teaching (This is my opinion only) is that the longer you rest on your merits, the more bitter you become. I was not with a HS for one week when I had a couple of teachers come into the class room during my lunch break and start asking me why I got paid the amount of money that my contract stated?

I was pissed. I told them that was none of their business.

One "lady" said that she had a masters in English and an undergrad in Theater Arts. I said great.
She asked, "What makes you qualified to teach?"  I told her.

This is what is important. This lady said she got into to teaching because she could have her summers off
and that she could care less if the kids learned, much less pass her course. I would have liked to think she was merely throwing out bait to see if I would take it.

Point is, she retired two years later. I still get to teach and what is funny, is that the kids are really
wanting to learn. They want to be challenged.
Title: Re: "Demoralized" (proud2BlibKansan)
Post by: Traveshamockery on December 14, 2010, 09:58:06 AM
My son says he knows he's made the right decision going into teaching and coaching.  Even if he were able to get a job in broadcasting, those jobs are pretty few and far between and would involve a lot of moving around the country to move up.  He works a lot of hours but I think he is finding it pretty rewarding. 

Title: Re: "Demoralized" (proud2BlibKansan)
Post by: BlueStateSaint on December 14, 2010, 10:05:01 AM
I was perusing the classifieds here in NY, and it appeared to me that even for substitutes and aides, you had to have a certification and degree in education (correct me if I'm wrong, other NYers).  Masters is required for almost anything else.

I'll ask the young teachers I know.
Title: Re: "Demoralized" (proud2BlibKansan)
Post by: DumbAss Tanker on December 14, 2010, 10:32:46 AM
In a lot of the Heartland, you only need a BA/BS to sub; if you are going to be a full-timer, you can get in at the entry level with the bachelor's degree with all the State's required Ed credits and supporting courses, but then in most states you have to be on a masters track and complete it within a certain number of years to stay on board.  As far as Summers go, actual mileage may vary, but a lot of teachers use them to take short courses in their specialties to keep up, or get additional certifications or continuing ed, not just to screw off. 

There are, of course, some who do the minimum to keep the clock punched in the classroom for nine months and then go on cruises or otherwise screw off all Summer.  Not naming any names there...
 :whatever:
Title: Re: "Demoralized" (proud2BlibKansan)
Post by: GOBUCKS on December 14, 2010, 10:39:18 AM
Proud2Bdumb Anne Pritchett and the chromosomally-challenged greenbriar Pam are fully qualified professional teachers. That tells me enough about today's teaching profession.
Title: Re: "Demoralized" (proud2BlibKansan)
Post by: Wineslob on December 14, 2010, 10:47:31 AM
She won't, though.

The Die alte Sau is 58 years old, and has been teaching since the age of 22.  In Missouri, someone who has taught for 30 years gets a handsome retirement pension and benefits, if that person retires.

The dysmenopausal Kansas school teacher's husband, ditto, although he's a few years older and has taught longer.

They're both sitting pretty good; if they were to retire right now, they'd be in great shape.

Kansas City, Missouri, earlier this year decided to close down somewhere between half and two-thirds of their pu8blic schools due to drastically declining population, with a corresponding decrease in personnel.

The Die alte Sau and her husband however pulled seniority, and continue to teach, because every year they teach, the already-generous pensions increase.

Never mind they both already have it pretty good; they want more, they want it all.

As a consequence, there's a couple of young teachers down there in Kansas City, Missouri, working in convenience stores because they don't have jobs teaching; jobs that the dysmenopausal Kansas school teacher and her husband kept.

I'll bet the Die alte Sau isn't losing a minute of sleep over it.

She wants more, she wants it all.

And she has the chutzpah to think she's "morally superior" to decent and civilized people.

Excellent example of why early retirement is a good thing.
Title: Re: "Demoralized" (proud2BlibKansan)
Post by: Tucker on December 14, 2010, 10:55:09 AM
Proud2Bdumb Anne Pritchett and the chromosomally-challenged greenbriar Pam are fully qualified professional teachers. That tells me enough about today's teaching profession.

Let's not forget that Mrs. Dawson, who has cancer, is qualified to be a principal. She's no DUmmy.
Title: Re: "Demoralized" (proud2BlibKansan)
Post by: AllosaursRus on December 14, 2010, 12:15:08 PM
My 25-year-old son graduated from college in 2009 with a degree in mass communications and after pursuing a job in broadcasting and there being no jobs realized he would rather teach and coach basketball in high school.

Because he had a degree, he was able to enroll in a program here in Texas called "I Teach Texas" and took several online courses to obtain a probationary teaching license.  He also had to take and pass in-person tests to be certified to teach English and History (he says they were difficult).  He was then able to apply for jobs teaching in any high school in Texas.  Fortunately he found a job in a crappy little town in East Texas where he's completing his one year of field experience.  Upon successful completion of that, he will be eligible to receive his full teaching license.  He's paid a full salary with full benefits.  The cost of this program is about $3500.00. 

He's having a blast.  He coaches the boys basketball team and teaches English to some rather challenging students (it's a very poor school district) but he is thriving and is really glad he decided to pursue teaching.  The State of Texas began this program to allow adults with a college degree with life and business experience to enter teaching

I couldn't be prouder of him. 

Uh oh! Wait until the DUmmies get a load of that! I'm sure they believe the Vagina Chronicles should be a required course for a teaching certificate! Heaven forbid we actually teach our young how to make a living and balance their checkbook! Hell, I bet they even grade the kids and keep score during the basketball games! OH NOES!

The menopausal inflicted Kansan will be leading the protest in 5...4...3...2...1...
Title: Re: "Demoralized" (proud2BlibKansan)
Post by: AllosaursRus on December 14, 2010, 12:27:39 PM
Front and center.

Proud2be teaches special ed at the elementary level at two different schools. She teaches at one school in the AM, drives to another school for the PM lessons.

She has enough time to retire but won't because of her co pay for continued health benefits.


I was wonderin' what the hell "sped" was!

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Title: Re: "Demoralized" (proud2BlibKansan)
Post by: Traveshamockery on December 14, 2010, 03:08:58 PM
Uh oh! Wait until the DUmmies get a load of that! I'm sure they believe the Vagina Chronicles should be a required course for a teaching certificate! Heaven forbid we actually teach our young how to make a living and balance their checkbook! Hell, I bet they even grade the kids and keep score during the basketball games! OH NOES!

The menopausal inflicted Kansan will be leading the protest in 5...4...3...2...1...


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