This is why I support elective abortion

[SSG Snuggle Bunny]

Because only liberals have them...

...and they ought to.



THIS is what they are producing as progeny:

minivan2 (94 posts)

I got in a fight with my parents today...
 
For my job I'm going to get a little over $8,000 a year, which I think is too little for a college student. While my parents think that it's fine. My parents are both democrats but I'm more liberal than they are, so while I was complaining on how bad the minimum wage is and high tuition, they started calling me a socialist. Since when did my parents become part of the right?

I tried telling them how it was easier for them back in the day, but they still didn't understand. I'm just frustrated with what happened and I'm almost crying right now. I want to move to Canada.

easychoice (451 posts)

1. Buck Up! Anyone who pays income tax is a socialist.

Tell your parents not to use big words they don't understand.

Try not to confuse "socialist" with "victim of socialism" retard.

delrem (5,124 posts)

2. $8,000 is way too little. Esp. for a college student.

Your parents are wrong.
Although I don't know the entire circumstances, IMO they ought not to have called you "political" names (socialist), because the issue wasn't about that.

I say, stand your ground but don't break with your family. Plan. You might well look at colleges in Canada, and at the myriad scholarships and subsidies available even to foreign students. To be sure, Canadian colleges and universities do tend to favor the very rich foreigners, the ones who can pay top dollar because it's nothing to their pocketbooks compared to securing their family a favored slot in Canada. But US citizens looking for opportunities are also very (and more deeply) favored because there's a long tradition of it and only good has ever come of it. So do look at Canadian colleges and universities and esp. scholarships etc. particular to each, and some of these can be pretty esoteric, not easily found (so more likely still available).

For people who supposedly eschew materialism and esteem those who do likewise they and their heroes sure seem pre-occupied with money.

BlueJazz (19,644 posts)

3. I may be off a little on the numbers but I'd remind them that...

..back-in-their-day the minimum wage was equal to somewhere around 14-18 dollars now.
In any case it was, at least, a decent pay for a days work...now it's just slave pay.

I don't know what the real pay is worth but I know what a Proglodyte is worth:

NOTHING

seabeyond (96,257 posts)

5. Who is paying your college cause I am paying my sons and I KNOW it is harder today

Than in my time. Now pay. Minimum wage back then was bogus too. Worse today. Cost of living higher. But wasn't easy back in the day either. But again, cost of living not as high.

What?

Rod Beauvex (291 posts)

6. How old are your parents?

I've noticed more and more, that a large chunk of the baby boomer generation, and even some of the older Gen Xers really don't seem to understand the modern world they live in, and are still living in the 50's and 60's, or if they're slightly younger and/or more progressive, the seventies. A lot of them still think a simple job can pay for college, a handshake and a 'good attitude' is all you need to get a job, which they seem to think are plentiful, and you can buy a house on a job without a degree. And it's not just the rightwing crazies either.


Thank the FSM DU is is filled with more sensible people, from all the age groups.

abelenkpe (8,256 posts)

13. Feel like my parents don't understand how much more difficult

It is today. And I'm gen X. Trying to raise two young kids. Millenials have it worse. 8000 is no where near enough. My parents bought a home, raised three kids, sent them to college on one salary. And work was 9-5, not 9-6. They have pensions, social security, savings. They were both high school drop outs. My parents truly believe that a good attitude is all that is needed to live the American dream, that those out of work, unable to buy a home or struggling in any way to live a life less than they enjoyed are lazy bums. They just do not get it.

Said every kid ever.

JEB (1,500 posts)

8. If this deadbeat nation wanted to even approach exceptional
 
it would educate anyone interested, willing and able to do the work of studying, free of charge. So **** yeah, I'm a Socialist and I'm 62.

TRANSLATION: Subsidized prolonged adolescence.

Warpy (77,554 posts)

9. Inflation

Your parents think 8 grand would have been a princely amount for college when they went to school. It won't go far now, not with inflated student housing costs.

Or dumbass could get an apartment with roommates.

Or the government could stop injecting money into a closed system.

Places that offer educations -- rather than charging you $20,000/year to drink beer and **** -- could teach you such things.

DEMTough (68 posts)

15. I feel you, I'm 20, and made just over $14,000 last year.

This is CA too, so odds are, our differences in wage are most likely not that different, due to the cost of living. I made 10$ an hour for most of last year, up from 9.50$ in the first two months. I'm currently making 10.30$ an hour from last November. While part-time.

If I didn't live with my parents and have FAFSA for school, I'd be on the streets right now. And I make too much for welfare.

Don't move to Canada, to me, that's giving up, I need to stay and fight so my children have a better and more secure upbringing than I did.

Yes, but that extra cost-of-living allows you to pay for such wonderful public services such as being find if you water your lawn and being fined if you don't water your lawn.

Nuclear Unicorn (11,676 posts)

16. Were you looking to them for additional support?

If so, I'm not suggesting you were wrong for doing so but getting into a "fight" probably set back your cause.

Do they tech that in kolluj? I'm pretty sure all they teach is to scream louder until someone gives you money to shut-up.

Gravitycollapse (7,028 posts)

18. I'm 24, making 19,000 a year and barely getting by with student loan debt.
 
****ing vultures.

Anyway, 8000 a year for a college student is probably not possible. I was barely getting by on 12,000 a year.

1. Have you tried doing something that is A) valuable and B) done better by you than anyone else?

2. If you are incurring debt does that debt enhance you efforts in Point #1?

If not...










AND THE WINNER IS:

mwrguy (1,626 posts)

17. They have a problem with socialism?

Great democrats you've got there.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10025283334

[hillneck]

minivan2 (94 posts)
I want to move to Canada.

Bye.  Don't let the door hit you in the rear end on the way out.  Also surrender passports and anything else denoting American citizenship as you pass the desk.I'm sure a little hut in Yellowknife would suit you fine.   

[BlueStateSaint]

abelenkpe (8,256 posts)

13. Feel like my parents don't understand how much more difficult

It is today. And I'm gen X. Trying to raise two young kids. Millenials have it worse. 8000 is no where near enough. My parents bought a home, raised three kids, sent them to college on one salary. And work was 9-5, not 9-6. They have pensions, social security, savings. They were both high school drop outs. My parents truly believe that a good attitude is all that is needed to live the American dream, that those out of work, unable to buy a home or struggling in any way to live a life less than they enjoyed are lazy bums. They just do not get it.

All together now . . .

[landofconfusion80]

This is interesting.  I had a HS friend discussing an article about the great expense of college and how it was impossible to pay for it.  Doing some basic back-of-the-napkin figuring, it came out to if you have a basic part-time job through college, you could pay for it with two years of part-time work after getting out.  Of course, these outcomes were met with cries of how far off they were so I doubled the tuition and you could STILL get it done on minimum wage.  The fun part was when they argued that the tuition in the article wasn't nearly as large as reality, defeating the whole premise of the article in the first place.

[USA4ME]

delrem

I say, stand your ground

Dog whistle. I smell a Menendez brothers scenario in the future.

minivan2

7. My dad just turned 55
 
My mom will be 60 in 2 years. So their not terribly old, but from my age that seems like their fossils.

I see that education is accomplishing something. According to this, our original poster, there is not a "they're" in her vocabulary and her parents remind her of some fossils they own. I can't for the life of me see why she's not just rolling in cash.

.

[DumbAss Tanker]

As a critical reader, my first questions would be just what kind of "Work," at what skill level, for how many hours per week, on what schedule, and how continuously through the year is the supposed job involved with the $8,000?  Also, on or off the books (Being a family of Democrats, I suspect I know the answer to that one already), since without all the various required withholding for an on-book job, the $8K net is equivalent to over a $9K gross at any on-book job.

I rather suspect it's really just an allowance disguised to make the student feel like they were actually doing something to earn it from the parents' side, all in exchange for some half-assed and totally-dispensable attempt to help out the family business, with the "I know I was supposed to do that, but I had to study for a test" card getting played regularly by the student.

[BlueStateSaint]

As a critical reader, my first questions would be just what kind of "Work,"

This should answer all of your questions . . .

[franksolich]

The primitives frequently wax nostalgic for the good old days, in this case when mom and pop found it easy to work their way through college.

The primitives keep on forgetting something.

In the good old days, which really weren't that long ago, federal, state, and local taxes were pocket change; now, apparently they're even more than the monthly house mortgage and automobile loan payment put together.

[67 Rover]

Because only liberals have them...

...and they ought to.



THIS is what they are producing as progeny:


Try not to confuse "socialist" with "victim of socialism" retard.

For people who supposedly eschew materialism and esteem those who do likewise they and their heroes sure seem pre-occupied with money.

I don't know what the real pay is worth but I know what a Proglodyte is worth:

NOTHING

What?

Said every kid ever.

TRANSLATION: Subsidized prolonged adolescence.

Or dumbass could get an apartment with roommates.

Or the government could stop injecting money into a closed system.

Places that offer educations -- rather than charging you $20,000/year to drink beer and **** -- could teach you such things.

Yes, but that extra cost-of-living allows you to pay for such wonderful public services such as being find if you water your lawn and being fined if you don't water your lawn.

Do they tech that in kolluj? I'm pretty sure all they teach is to scream louder until someone gives you money to shut-up.

1. Have you tried doing something that is A) valuable and B) done better by you than anyone else?

2. If you are incurring debt does that debt enhance you efforts in Point #1?

If not...










AND THE WINNER IS:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10025283334

Perhaps if the universities and colleges did not pay fake Indian professors $350,000 to teach a single class tuition would not be so high.  Just a thought.

[HawkHogan]

Dummies and the policies they support are the reason why tuition is so ridiculous.  The fed government keeps pumping money into these schools via FAFSA,loans, grants, etc.

Dummies don't see the connection.

[Jasonw560]

Idiots. All of them.

[Karin]

SSB, I agree with your winner designation.  Not only a full blown embrace of socialism, he had to slam someone's parents as well.   Douche. 

[MrsSmith]

Unless my calculator is broken, minimum wage is $15k per year, not $8k.  My guess is, if there is any truth to the OP, the parents think the kid should get a full time job instead of flipping burgers part-time.  LOL

[67 Rover]

Unless my calculator is broken, minimum wage is $15k per year, not $8k.  My guess is, if there is any truth to the OP, the parents think the kid should get a full time job instead of flipping burgers part-time.  LOL

The parents are also hoping the DUmbass changes its major to something useful.

[BlueStateSaint]

The parents are also hoping the DUmbass changes its major to something useful.

"But underwater wymyn's basketweaving studies are the next big thing."