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Proglodytes show us the way to keep them off our streets
« on: July 03, 2014, 01:42:05 PM »
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An interesting way to deal with open carry laws:
 
 http://www.pqed.org/2014/06/how-should-people-respond-to-open-carry.html?m=1

The questions that concerns me now is how we bystanders should react when people come into a store with guns. There really is no legitimate way of determining intent. Even if the people with guns are carrying a sign claiming to be activists (which they do not do), they could be lying, just setting us all up for slaughter. And since there is no way to know what is on their minds, all we have are our instincts, but as we all should know, our instincts are often racist, classist, and frequently mistaken. So, what should we do?

My proposal is as follows: we should all leave. Immediately. Leave the food on the table in the restaurant. Leave the groceries in the cart, in the aisle. Stop talking or engaging in the exchange. Just leave, unceremoniously, and fast.

But here is the key part: don’t pay. Stopping to pay in the presence of a person with a gun means risking your and your loved ones’ lives; money shouldn’t trump this. It doesn’t matter if you ate the meal. It doesn’t matter if you’ve just received food from the deli counter that can’t be resold. It doesn’t matter if you just got a haircut. Leave. If the business loses money, so be it. They can make the activists pay.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10025190524

So if we open carry every where they can never leave their Section 8 housing.

It'll be like rounding them up and putting them into a million little 1 to 4 person FEMA camps except they'll do all the work themselves; we just have to parade around with the guns.
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Re: Proglodytes show us the way to keep them off our streets
« Reply #1 on: July 03, 2014, 01:54:58 PM »
I'm all for them leaving but not really crazy about their new way to shop lift  :lmao:
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Re: Proglodytes show us the way to keep them off our streets
« Reply #2 on: July 03, 2014, 02:01:50 PM »
Could someone please link all the police reports of gun crimes (or any) committed by people that legally open carry?

Btw,DUmbass...the only crime that would be committed would be people leaving without paying as you advised.
God they are stupid.
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Re: Proglodytes show us the way to keep them off our streets
« Reply #3 on: July 03, 2014, 02:04:20 PM »
If they are legally allowed to carry then you are the one committing a crime by not paying for something you got  :rotf:  Seriously, this is hilarious  :lmao:
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Re: Proglodytes show us the way to keep them off our streets
« Reply #4 on: July 03, 2014, 02:25:05 PM »
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The questions that concerns me now is how we bystanders should react when people come into a store with guns.

for a start, I would say treat the armed citizen with courtesy,dignity, and respect.  The same thing you demand of us when dealing with illegal aliens or gays.
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Re: Proglodytes show us the way to keep them off our streets
« Reply #5 on: July 03, 2014, 02:39:24 PM »
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1. Now way are we hanging around if some asshole walks in with a gun, no way, AND,
 
how does one know if they are some open carry asshole or someone else ready to do mass murder?

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NightWatcher (24,476 posts)

4. So an 'open carry asshole' and a 'stand your ground asshole' walk into a grocery store

Each one assumes the other is a threat and 23 shoppers are killed by stray rounds.

HA!

If I see an open carry asshole, I will leave, after informing the management that I dont feel safe in their establishment.

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IronLionZion (12,528 posts)

11. I would leave first

and then after going to a safer place, call the management to give the reason they lost my business.

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Lugnut (9,232 posts)

13. That is what I would do.

Get out of the place then call to report it.


They got some real bad asses over there.
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Re: Proglodytes show us the way to keep them off our streets
« Reply #6 on: July 03, 2014, 02:44:20 PM »
They're just lapping it up over there!   :lmao:  They have no problem with the stealing aspect of it.  Of course they don't.

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11. I would leave first
 and then after going to a safer place, call the management to give the reason they lost my business.
 

He didn't "lose" your business.  He gained a shoplifter/dine-n-dasher. 

Finally one guy pointed it out:

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12. ...
And yes the restaurant could call the police and you would be charged with a crime if you walked out without paying due to open carry. You can't use you are afraid of something and that is why you left if that something is legal. It would be like little old white ladies getting up and leaving without paying when a black man walked into a restaurant. 

No response.  What little fragile violets they are. 
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Re: Proglodytes show us the way to keep them off our streets
« Reply #7 on: July 03, 2014, 02:47:50 PM »
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Re: Proglodytes show us the way to keep them off our streets
« Reply #8 on: July 03, 2014, 02:57:50 PM »
I guess you would never see a DUmmie at this place.

http://dailycaller.com/2014/07/02/god-and-guns-welcome-at-open-carry-colorado-restaurant/
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God And Guns Welcome At Open-Carry Colorado Restaurant

Bucking the proliferation of gun-free zones everywhere from movie theaters to Chipotle restaurants, the owners of a restaurant in Rifle, Colo., are openly welcoming the gun-carrying public.

Even the waitresses at Shooters Grill in this small Colorado mountain town are armed, some with modern semiautomatic pistols, but at least one with a Wild West-looking Ruger Blackhawk .357 revolver and a bandolier of live ammunition.

The owner assured reporters that the weapons are not part of a costume to go with the restaurant’s Western-themed décor.

“They’re real and they’re loaded and we know what we’re doing,” said owner Lauren Boebert, in comments to the Summit Daily News. “I fear for anyone who tries to rob us.”
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Re: Proglodytes show us the way to keep them off our streets
« Reply #9 on: July 03, 2014, 03:32:03 PM »
Why would they wait to see an openly carried firearm by another patron ?
They could just dine and dash and assert that's what they saw.
Same thing for fueling the DUmmy's car, if they actually own it.
It would be gas and go with the ephemeral open carry patron to blame.
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Re: Proglodytes show us the way to keep them off our streets
« Reply #10 on: July 03, 2014, 04:55:09 PM »
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33. I plan to start yelling Gun, Gun, Gun as loud as I can and asking for the manager......

I will tell the manager I am leaving the premises but offer to give them my telephone number so we can arrange payment for any goods or services I consumed.

But I will leave the premises and as long as I have demonstrated good faith that I had a "reasonable" fear for my safety because someone was toting a gun and I had no way of knowing if the person carrying was there to commit a crime and that I am very uncomfortable around guns I have committed no crime.

I can assure you that based on those facts you would never be in any trouble with the police. You made clear your intention to pay for the goods/services but circumstances beyond your control that caused you to have a reasonable fear for your safety caused you to leave the premises.



Regarding leaving a restaurant without paying:

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31. Such BS. They can only charge you with a crime if you commit one - if your intent is to prevent

potential harm to your family - and just because one has a carry license does not automatically mean I HAVE to presume they are safe, not mentally challenged, or about to create havoc - then they are going to have a hell of a time proving that the elements of a crime were committed.

PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE - Charge me with a ****ing crime - I would LOVE it. And I may well bring an action against the restaurant for not assuring that the gun is unloaded, that the person is legally carrying it (did they ask to see their permit and verify that it isn't fraudulent?) and the potential psychological damage from potentially being held against my will by an accomplice of that armed individual. That's reaching, but hey, that's how you get the big settlement 

Oh, and what the **** is wrong with you? Equating black people with guns? Racism with public safety?

You are suggesting that DUers who fear for their safety and the safety of their family from a deadly weapon are the SAME as virulent racists who perpetuate their hate of PEOPLE?

Seriously? That's a horrible example and borders on overt racism.

Different sub-thread:

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14. every person with a gun is a threat and should be treated as such nt

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25. I like walking out AND calling the police. Make as much noise as possible.

Eventually the store and police will tired this and put a stop to it.

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dilby (692 posts)

32. They will get tired of it for sure and probably ask you to stop calling them.

And the store will probably ask you to stop coming into it. It would be like the George Zimmerman calling the cops every time he saw a black kid in his neighborhood.

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43. Having been hit by a bullet fragment
 
and having my father shot and lose the ability to use his right hand; I can tell you I am in fear of guns. I think that if people are allowed to open carry in public the owner of the establishment must be made to provide a bulletproof "no gun" zone. This would be similar to the no smoking areas with separate ventilation that were established prior to most places going all no smoking.

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49. It's real simple...

Are the open-carry extremists disturbing the peace? If so, you call 911 and tell the cops. Keep doing it until the stores and the toters get the picture.

A simple but effective tool to fight abuse of open-carry without devolving into a nation of whiners. Keep the focus on public safety and the general welfare.

"without devolving into a nation of whiners."

Too late.

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50. Pity the poor store clerks.. When somone comes in with a gun,
 
they have been able assume that person is there to rob them..

Can they now "stand their ground" and shoot them?...or have the security guard shoot them?

How does one assume that the gun wielding "customer" is there to buy cotton swabs & a tv guide?...or are they just a run-of-the-mill robber?
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Re: Proglodytes show us the way to keep them off our streets
« Reply #11 on: July 03, 2014, 04:59:03 PM »
These are the warriors that are going to wage the leftist revolution?  :rofl:


Hey DUmbfuks,here is a clue.



Dangerous...



Not dangerous...

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Re: Proglodytes show us the way to keep them off our streets
« Reply #12 on: July 03, 2014, 05:13:25 PM »
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25. I like walking out AND calling the police. Make as much noise as possible.

Eventually the store and police will tired this and put a stop to it.

Yes they will. You'll end up getting your ass beat by the cops, or arrested and charged with nuisance 9-11 calls or both.  Most cops support the 2nd amendment.
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Re: Proglodytes show us the way to keep them off our streets
« Reply #13 on: July 04, 2014, 05:37:14 AM »
"A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional
 maturity."
Sigmund Freud, General Introduction to Psychoanalysis (1952)
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Re: Proglodytes show us the way to keep them off our streets
« Reply #14 on: July 04, 2014, 05:50:33 AM »
Good freaking Lord on a stick! Why the hell would people who open carry be there to commit a crime? That's like wearing a neon sign that says, "HEY, I'M THE ONE WHO ROBBED THE PLACE"! If I'm going to rob some store or shoot up the place, I'm certainly not going to walk in advertising the fact that I have a gun. Too many little pussies who would rather wipe their asses on a cactus than defend themselves grabbing their 0bama phones calling 911. When your knee-jerk reaction is to flee, you're probably more useless than a ringworm on a goldfish. Even gangster movies have the common sense to have the bad guys eating in a restaurant hiding their weapons. Hint: if your rivals see you have a gun they'll shoot first.

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Re: Proglodytes show us the way to keep them off our streets
« Reply #15 on: July 04, 2014, 07:23:52 AM »
Quote from: thundley4 on July 03, 2014, 02:57:50 PM
I guess you would never see a DUmmie at this place.

http://dailycaller.com/2014/07/02/god-and-guns-welcome-at-open-carry-colorado-restaurant/

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Re: Proglodytes show us the way to keep them off our streets
« Reply #16 on: July 04, 2014, 07:32:26 AM »
Good Lord, what a bunch of idiots.

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If all it takes for the DUmmies to reveal their pants-wetting, shrieking moonbat selves is the sight of a holstered firearm, I'll open carry more often!
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Re: Proglodytes show us the way to keep them off our streets
« Reply #17 on: July 04, 2014, 09:19:07 AM »
AK-47 = DUmmie repellent.....little heavy but if it works :yahoo:
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Re: Proglodytes show us the way to keep them off our streets
« Reply #18 on: July 04, 2014, 09:37:55 AM »
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33. I plan to start yelling Gun, Gun, Gun as loud as I can and asking for the manager......

I will tell the manager I am leaving the premises but offer to give them my telephone number so we can arrange payment for any goods or services I consumed.

But I will leave the premises and as long as I have demonstrated good faith that I had a "reasonable" fear for my safety because someone was toting a gun and I had no way of knowing if the person carrying was there to commit a crime and that I am very uncomfortable around guns I have committed no crime.

I can assure you that based on those facts you would never be in any trouble with the police. You made clear your intention to pay for the goods/services but circumstances beyond your control that caused you to have a reasonable fear for your safety caused you to leave the premises.


 :rotf: and DUmmies wonder why we, or anyone else for that matter don't take them seriously.

What a pearl-clutching, mamby-pamby, limp-wristed loser.

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Re: Proglodytes show us the way to keep them off our streets
« Reply #19 on: July 04, 2014, 10:23:57 AM »
Ya know, if there as many of them as they imagine there are, it would take care of the need to get reservations at restaurants. But it would probably be just one person at the 2-seat table by the restroom, so ...

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Re: Proglodytes show us the way to keep them off our streets
« Reply #20 on: July 04, 2014, 10:24:42 AM »
The funniest part of all this hysterical, pearl-clutching, bed-wetting, vulva-thumping talk of how their going to out sissy each other is that none of them are ever going to actually do it.  And the first one of these ****ing retards that thinks they're justified in trying to incite a panic over (literally) nothing actually does it?  Well, I hope they get posting privileges from the state pound-me-in-the-ass prison; I can't wait to hear how their time as Bubba's personal umbrella stand is going.

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Re: Proglodytes show us the way to keep them off our streets
« Reply #21 on: July 04, 2014, 10:51:13 AM »
Quote from: SGT Snuggle Bunny on July 03, 2014, 01:42:05 PM
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So if we open carry every where they can never leave their Section 8 housing.

It'll be like rounding them up and putting them into a million little 1 to 4 person FEMA camps except they'll do all the work themselves; we just have to parade around with the guns.

Why stop there?  Open carry in the section 8 housing also, send them scurrying like the cockroaches they are.
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Re: Proglodytes show us the way to keep them off our streets
« Reply #22 on: July 04, 2014, 02:07:42 PM »
Are they saying that in light of actual crime statistics whenever a group of obama sons enter a diner everyone else should immediately flee and then demand the owner ban them? 
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Re: Proglodytes show us the way to keep them off our streets
« Reply #23 on: July 04, 2014, 03:03:05 PM »
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Are they saying that in light of actual crime statistics whenever a group of obama sons enter a diner everyone else should immediately flee and then demand the owner ban them?
So, you've been to our Huddle House and Waffle House on Saturday nights, huh? You could have at least waved hello as you went by.
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Re: Proglodytes show us the way to keep them off our streets
« Reply #24 on: July 04, 2014, 05:09:57 PM »
In the remote Colorado county where I live, you can get an open carry permit in about...oh, I don't know...in about 10 minutes?
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