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DUmmies Discuss New Home For Homely Chelsea
« on: March 14, 2013, 10:14:27 PM »
So the DUmp is in a tizzy, having no idea what the approved reaction is to the lavish new apartment being bought by the Hildebeast's homely offspring:

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Thu Mar 14, 2013, 04:21 PM
Nye Bevan (9,926 posts)
Chelsea Clinton Buys A $10.5 Million Apartment On Madison Square Park

Former first daughter Chelsea Clinton and her husband have purchased an apartment at The Whitman across from Madison Square Park for $10.5 million, the New York Post reported.
 
The deal for the 5,000-square-foot apartment, located at 21 East 26th St, closed last month, sources told the Post.
 
The apartment has four bedrooms and 6.5 bathrooms, and the living room boasts sweeping views of the park. Elliman’s Melanie Lazenby – who was profiled last year in "The Real Deal" – and Dina Lewis had the listing.
 
The five-story Whitman has one apartment per floor and a key-locked elevator.

http://www.businessinsider.com/chelsea-clinton-buys-apartment-2013-3

Looks like a beautiful place. Congrats to both.

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Thu Mar 14, 2013, 04:21 PM
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1. Snarky comments in 3...2...1...


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Thu Mar 14, 2013, 04:25 PM
SoCalDem (99,075 posts)

4. She's an only child of two wealthy parents.. Why would she NOT have a great place to live?
I doubt that anyone expected them to live in a two bedroom fixer-upper in the Bronx or Brooklyn..
 
She and her husband are both well-educated/employed and can probably well afford the place.
 
Do I think it's super expensive? Hell yes!, but NYC has ridiculously high prices for city-living
That's exactly how the DUmp reacted to W's daughters. Isn't it?


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Thu Mar 14, 2013, 04:27 PM
B2G (1,306 posts)

5. The double standard on wealth here is tres amusing
Seriously.



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Thu Mar 14, 2013, 04:54 PM
Wait Wut (5,603 posts)

18. What double standard?
Is it now a requirement of the Democratic Party to hate people that have more money than us?

Yes.


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Thu Mar 14, 2013, 08:47 PM
Swamp Lover (365 posts)

57. Really? Hatred of someone solely because they have money?
What? Was the screen name, "Laughable Cliche'" already taken?



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Thu Mar 14, 2013, 08:56 PM
choie (1,124 posts)

65. Agreed...more hypocrisy...
just another example of the pass that people here give to their "heart throbs".



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Thu Mar 14, 2013, 09:21 PM
devilgrrl (20,540 posts)

70. Has Chelsea whined non-stop about having to pay more taxes?
Seriously.



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Thu Mar 14, 2013, 04:29 PM
tech3149 (3,242 posts)

6. Yea but it's close enough to walk to work
Think of the saving in commute cost and time from North Jersey or the Shore.



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Thu Mar 14, 2013, 09:37 PM
graham4anything (6,161 posts)

One persons money has no effect on another person having or not having money

It is just an excuse to blame something or someone

Money don't buy happiness.
The poorest person can be the happiest in life, never once whining
The richest person can be the saddest going through life bitter and sad

Money doesn't give one freedom

But President Obama does give freedom

There is unlimited money in the world. It is not a finite number.
Therefore, one person's riches, has nothing to do with anyone else

It's a big mistake of raw number statistics when the $$$ total is infinite, and not finite
 
and if you get rid of the entire 1%, SO WHAT???
It's just one rain drop in an ocean of water



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Thu Mar 14, 2013, 09:41 PM
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78. "One persons money has no effect on another person having or not having money"
Hold on! I gotta stop laughing... Are you serious?

You really THINK that? Is money in unlimited supply?

Wow, you have some weird ideas about economic systems, pal.

Yes, money can be printed infinitely, but if it were, it would be valueless.

Go read some basic textbooks on economics.



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Thu Mar 14, 2013, 09:54 PM
Bonobo (19,745 posts)

88. Please. Don't stop now. I'm enjoying this.
Enlighten us all about how when the rich take from the limited resources available in the world, it doesn't affect anyone else.


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Thu Mar 14, 2013, 10:11 PM
graham4anything (6,161 posts)

95. It's your right not to answer. But as said, there are no dumb questions.
If x has 100
and y has 10
taking 100 from x, does NOT give y more than 10

simple, first grade mathematics

Unless you are using some voodoo economics, or RandPaulian hocus pocus.

How does removing x get y anything more or less?

So are you saying someone with say 40 million should give the poor their windfall?



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Thu Mar 14, 2013, 04:35 PM
frazzled (8,869 posts)

10. 5000 square feet for two people seems like ...
way more square feet than is good for two people to live in, whatever one's income. I say that not with malice but with advice to a young couple: too much space breeds distance, not togetherness. Unless of course, you end up just using the 1500 or so square feet in which you eat, sleep, and lounge. What you do with the rest is your business. But then don't talk to us about ecological matters or global warming. (Or income inequality.)


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Thu Mar 14, 2013, 04:39 PM
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12. the keeping up with the Jonses is getting out of hand.
conspicuous consumption like this, in today's resource threatened world, is just not the right message.
 
Gluttony got us into the ****ing mess we are in.

Sorry, I don't find they 'deserve this' because their parents are rich.



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Thu Mar 14, 2013, 04:48 PM
Comrade Grumpy (2,651 posts)

15. A $10.5 million apartment is a good argument for wealth redistribution.


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Thu Mar 14, 2013, 04:54 PM
Brickbat (13,889 posts)

17. This thread would be so very different if one name were changed in that article.


The DUmp's foremost expert on upscale living chimes in.
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Thu Mar 14, 2013, 08:47 PM
DollarBillHines (1,720 posts)

59. Nice place
With those kind of appointments and 5K ft sq, they got a pretty good deal.

Of course, the last time we saw TiT, he was sleeping on a cot in the back of a trinket shop, drinking a quart of gin every evening.


DUmmy fascisthunter realizes what an embarrassment this thread is for the DUmpmonkeys.
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Thu Mar 14, 2013, 08:48 PM
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61. I bet you love rubbing this in DUers faces
not clever.



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Thu Mar 14, 2013, 09:20 PM
Shankapotomus (2,016 posts)

69. 10.5 million for your shelter...
while some go without? No. That's in bad taste. Chelsea is going against the trend.
The days of indulging yourself in more than you really need are over.

Actually, no, they're not. There will always be winners, and there will always be losers like DUmmy Shankapotomus and his DUmpmates.


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91. She pulled herself up by her bootstraps...
It had nothing to do with Mommy or Daddy...

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Re: DUmmies Discuss New Home For Homely Chelsea
« Reply #1 on: March 14, 2013, 10:19:39 PM »
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4. She's an only child of two wealthy parents.. Why would she NOT have a great place to live?
I'm curious about DU's feeling on the Koch family and their children.
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Re: DUmmies Discuss New Home For Homely Chelsea
« Reply #2 on: March 14, 2013, 11:33:51 PM »
Let's change that name to Romney.  The DUmp would be shitting bricks.

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Re: DUmmies Discuss New Home For Homely Chelsea
« Reply #3 on: March 14, 2013, 11:51:34 PM »
I don't like the bedroom.  It has windows all across it that face another apartment  building.  I can just see all the paparazzi out there with their cameras, or worse, the nuts with theirs.

And it's not worth 10.5. 
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Re: DUmmies Discuss New Home For Homely Chelsea
« Reply #4 on: March 15, 2013, 04:55:44 AM »
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91. She pulled herself up by her bootstraps...
It had nothing to do with Mommy or Daddy...

God,idiocy like this should be illegal.

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Re: DUmmies Discuss New Home For Homely Chelsea
« Reply #5 on: March 15, 2013, 05:27:02 AM »
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91. She pulled herself up by her bootstraps...

It had nothing to do with Mommy or Daddy...

Oh really?

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Chelsea Clinton joins New York hedge fund

Avenue Capital Group founder has been big contributor to Democrats

http://www.nbcnews.com/id/15549672/ns/business-us_business/t/chelsea-clinton-joins-new-york-hedge-fund/

Let's take a stroll down memory lane, shall we?

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How does a "hedge fund" work?

Should hedge funds be illegal?

Most of the arguments that you hear, mostly from people making money off of hedge funds, say they are a vital part of the markets operation. But are they really?

In the case of Goldman Sachs, they permitted John Paulson to pick over the worst mortgages, those behind in payments and questionable for the future, and put them in a basket to sell to unsuspecting buyers around the world. Of course, they had to get them rated AAA before they sold them. That was the first step in the fraudulent activity.

The experts say they then bet against those same "baskets" that they were selling to the unsuspecting buyers. How did they bet against them?? Is that why they bought insurance from AIG? How did that work?

At the least, it is very unethical, in my opinion. At the worst, it is fraud. But from the beginning, when the bad mortgages are chosen, there is the intent to deceive. That is the entire purpose of hedging on the bet. How easy is it to offer a mortgage to an unemployed person if you know you are going to sell that mortgage to someone else?

Of course, Goldman Sachs was not the only one doing it. There were probably four or five banks that were more involved than Goldman. It is a widespread scandal. It continues as we speak. It did not end with the collapse in 2008.

In fact, Goldman Sachs just reported a record quarter for profits. They are handing out huge bonuses once again. Some might call that "hush" money? If your employer gives you a million-dollar bonus, how likely are you to spill the beans? And what is the capital gains tax on these "bonuses"? What should be the capital gains tax on these profits?

What type of "reform" can we expect from the White House and the Congress? Will the taxpayers still be vulnerable after reform is passed? This is a test for the Democratic Party. We know where the Republicans stand.

http://betterment.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x8181675

Let the right person work in a hedge fund and it's bootstrapping (NOTE: itself a term usually dismissed with derision on DU).

Let the wrong person teach disdvantaged minorities and it's nothing but perverse cynicism:

[TOPIC: Jenna Bush wants to teach black and hispanic children in Harlem]

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23. She has a crush on Bill Clinton and wants to be close to him...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x1995061#1995251
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Re: DUmmies Discuss New Home For Homely Chelsea
« Reply #6 on: March 15, 2013, 06:30:29 AM »
God,idiocy like this should be illegal.

Yeah, you see Arkansans move into ritzy NYC apartments all the time.  Romney gave away his inheritance and didn't marry his money.  You still had people screaming because he was the son of a wealthy businessman/politician.
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Re: DUmmies Discuss New Home For Homely Chelsea
« Reply #7 on: March 15, 2013, 06:32:52 AM »
Oh really?

http://www.nbcnews.com/id/15549672/ns/business-us_business/t/chelsea-clinton-joins-new-york-hedge-fund/

Let's take a stroll down memory lane, shall we?

http://betterment.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x8181675

Let the right person work in a hedge fund and it's bootstrapping (NOTE: itself a term usually dismissed with derision on DU).

Let the wrong person teach disdvantaged minorities and it's nothing but perverse cynicism:

[TOPIC: Jenna Bush wants to teach black and hispanic children in Harlem]

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x1995061#1995251

High 5.  I wish we could post this over there.
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Re: DUmmies Discuss New Home For Homely Chelsea
« Reply #8 on: March 15, 2013, 06:34:04 AM »
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10. 5000 square feet for two people seems like ...
way more square feet than is good for two people to live in, whatever one's income. I say that not with malice but with advice to a young couple: too much space breeds distance, not togetherness. Unless of course, you end up just using the 1500 or so square feet in which you eat, sleep, and lounge. What you do with the rest is your business. But then don't talk to us about ecological matters or global warming. (Or income inequality.)

How big is the algore's house?
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Re: DUmmies Discuss New Home For Homely Chelsea
« Reply #9 on: March 15, 2013, 06:41:56 AM »
I don't like the bedroom.  It has windows all across it that face another apartment  building.  I can just see all the paparazzi out there with their cameras, or worse, the nuts with theirs.

And it's not worth 10.5. 


Show me an "apartment" in NYC that would go for 1/4 of the same price in most other cities.

It's worth $10.5 million.  Why?  Because there's some idiot out there willing to pay it.

Then again, I wouldn't worry too much--it's his side of the family that has the big bucks, not her so much, although having her last name pretty much ensures she'll have no-show, no-work mid six-figure income (or higher) for the rest of her life.
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« Reply #10 on: March 15, 2013, 06:43:36 AM »
How big is the algore's house?

WHICH ONE?  IIRC, the one he paid $9 million for on the beach in Montecito goes something like 7000 square feet.  But that's nothing compared to the house he's got outside Nashville.

I mean, we're talking Silky Pony-sized digs here.
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« Reply #11 on: March 15, 2013, 06:52:55 AM »
The hypocrisy is strong






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Re: DUmmies Discuss New Home For Homely Chelsea
« Reply #12 on: March 15, 2013, 07:19:59 AM »
I'm curious about DU's feeling on the Koch family and their children.

 :argh: :argh: :argh: :argh:

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5. The double standard on wealth here is tres amusing
Seriously.


Oh, you noticed!


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Thu Mar 14, 2013, 04:54 PM
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18. What double standard?
Is it now a requirement of the Democratic Party to hate people that have more money than us?

Where in the hell have you been the last 30 years?

High 5.  I wish we could post this over there.

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Re: DUmmies Discuss New Home For Homely Chelsea
« Reply #13 on: March 15, 2013, 07:29:58 AM »
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One persons money has no effect on another person having or not having money

It is just an excuse to blame something or someone

Money don't buy happiness.
The poorest person can be the happiest in life, never once whining
The richest person can be the saddest going through life bitter and sad

Money doesn't give one freedom

But President Obama does give freedom   :hammer: :hammer:

There is unlimited money in the world. It is not a finite number.
Therefore, one person's riches, has nothing to do with anyone else

It's a big mistake of raw number statistics when the $$$ total is infinite, and not finite
 
and if you get rid of the entire 1%, SO WHAT???
It's just one rain drop in an ocean of water

If one post, could sum up the reasons why these people are unreachable with common sense, this is it.
              

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Re: DUmmies Discuss New Home For Homely Chelsea
« Reply #14 on: March 15, 2013, 07:55:08 AM »
Show me an "apartment" in NYC that would go for 1/4 of the same price in most other cities.

It's worth $10.5 million.  Why?  Because there's some idiot out there willing to pay it.

Then again, I wouldn't worry too much--it's his side of the family that has the big bucks, not her so much, although having her last name pretty much ensures she'll have no-show, no-work mid six-figure income (or higher) for the rest of her life.
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Re: DUmmies Discuss New Home For Homely Chelsea
« Reply #15 on: March 15, 2013, 08:05:31 AM »
High 5.  I wish we could post this over there.

Of course I had no direct recollection of any such post regarding Jenna Bush.

The little tyrants are just that predictable in their unprincipled hate-mongering.
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« Reply #16 on: March 15, 2013, 08:08:24 AM »
Besides the primtives ability to be consistently stupid, they also have the uncanny ability to consistently tie themselves into knots.

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Re: DUmmies Discuss New Home For Homely Chelsea
« Reply #17 on: March 15, 2013, 08:25:34 AM »
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6. Yea but it's close enough to walk to work
Think of the saving in commute cost and time from North Jersey or the Shore.
Spend 10.5 mill on a place close to work in order to save four bucks and thirty minutes while commuting.
Yup, makes perfectly good sense to me.
Good grief, the excuses they find.
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Re: DUmmies Discuss New Home For Homely Chelsea
« Reply #18 on: March 15, 2013, 08:38:16 AM »
If selling missile secrets to the Chinese made mom and pop rich, then selling business trade secrets will make daughter rich.

I'm pretty sure she didn't sleep her way to the top.
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Re: DUmmies Discuss New Home For Homely Chelsea
« Reply #19 on: March 15, 2013, 09:24:32 AM »
Spend 10.5 mill on a place close to work in order to save four bucks and thirty minutes while commuting.
Yup, makes perfectly good sense to me.
Good grief, the excuses they find.
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Re: DUmmies Discuss New Home For Homely Chelsea
« Reply #20 on: March 15, 2013, 09:27:43 AM »
How big is the algore's house?

Thu Mar 14, 2013, 04:35 PM
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10. 5000 square feet for two people seems like ...
way more square feet than is good for two people to live in, whatever one's income. I say that not with malice but with advice to a young couple: too much space breeds distance, not togetherness. Unless of course, you end up just using the 1500 or so square feet in which you eat, sleep, and lounge. What you do with the rest is your business. But then don't talk to us about ecological matters or global warming. (Or income inequality.)

Oh how I rue the day I bought my home.   I bought on what I could afford with out giving thought to the future.  Should have bought on need at the time.  Two of us, livingroom, kitchen big kitchen, bedroom with private bath, laundry room, 1/2 bath.   All we needed at that time and all we need today.

To go back in time I would have bought half the home we did.   Too big for just us two plus with 2 extra bedrooms and a family room, for 15 years we had family moving in and out one adult stayed 14 years !!

All these years we gave up our privacy to family on both sides moving in and out.   Result is 1/3 of our home is now used for storage, Over night visitors best bring a sleeping bag and sleep on the carpet.

Cost to heat and cool unused rooms is huge, lots of problems that if we down sized to smaller quarters would solve.

Reason I have been looking into the micro homes.     I would give up a second bedroom for a wrap around porch or a half bath for a full cellar to turn into storage.  

To each their own for us average people, higher low class those making under $60,000 a year for two.  


Things were different in the past when I needed a home for 2 boys and two girls.   We needed lots of room  but today with no one but Hubby and I, heck we could live most well in an Airstream and if we did not like the neighbors, we could move on.    



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Re: DUmmies Discuss New Home For Homely Chelsea
« Reply #21 on: March 15, 2013, 09:30:06 AM »
If selling missile secrets to the Chinese made mom and pop rich, then selling business trade secrets will make daughter rich.

I'm pretty sure she didn't sleep her way to the top.

Bill probably hit it already. It's not like she's his daughter!



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Re: DUmmies Discuss New Home For Homely Chelsea
« Reply #22 on: March 15, 2013, 10:15:04 AM »
Bill probably hit it already. It's not like she's his daughter!





What are you trying to say Big Dog, come on don't be shy, out with it.

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Re: DUmmies Discuss New Home For Homely Chelsea
« Reply #23 on: March 15, 2013, 10:25:45 AM »
What are you trying to say Big Dog, come on don't be shy, out with it.

A convincing argument has been made that Chelsea is actually the daughter of Hillary and Webb Hubbell. I think she is more likely the daughter of Hillary and the donkey from Shrek.
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Re: DUmmies Discuss New Home For Homely Chelsea
« Reply #24 on: March 15, 2013, 10:32:28 AM »
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91. She pulled herself up by her bootstraps...

It had nothing to do with Mommy or Daddy...
Come on.

This DUmmy is being sarcastic. The dots give it away.

I guess they do need to use that stupid "sarcasm" thing.