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Offline franksolich

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primitive parts with old tractor
« on: February 21, 2010, 08:42:27 AM »
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triguy46 (1000+ posts)      Sat Feb-20-10 09:52 PM
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I parted with an old friend today...

Sold my 1950 Ford 8N tractor. I bought it in 1982 and have used it all this time. It was time to move on, have other equipment that is more useful around the place and need a new hay mower. I'm trying hard not to be sentimental about a "thing," but am somewhat. I have a pic of the day it was delivered, our 2 year son in my lap sitting on it, both of us grinning. Long time ago.

It was always reliable, and I always took care of it as we should do with the tools that let us be productive. I think the new owner will treat it well, will probably put it in showroom state, whereas I just used it.

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tularetom  (1000+ posts)        Sat Feb-20-10 10:02 PM
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2. I got you beat by 2 years

Still using my 1948 Case DI. It came with this place when I bought it in 1988 and I've rebuilt the engine about 5 years ago.

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Jackpine Radical  (1000+ posts)        Sat Feb-20-10 10:13 PM
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3. Reminds me. I gotta get my '54 Case SC repaired.

The clutch is out.

I have a '99 John Deere diesel 790 4wd with FEL that I use for actual work, but I just haven't been able to let go of ol' Casey.

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NYC_SKP  (1000+ posts)        Sat Feb-20-10 10:47 PM
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6. Sad. Plenty of these are still in service around here (CA Central Valley)

From the 40s.

Farmall M

after which two photographs of tractors

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NYC_SKP  (1000+ posts)        Sun Feb-21-10 12:04 AM
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8. I was always fascinated by their simplicity and construction and durability.

Especially their design, that there is no chassis to speak of.

The strength and mass of the rear end, the transmission and clutch housing and engine block together all constitute the frame.

If you know what I mean. Pretty clear in the picture below:

after which photograph of another tractor

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postulater (1000+ posts)        Sun Feb-21-10 12:20 AM
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9. Made to work and made to last. Great combination!

Congrats on making it useful for so long.

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Historic NY  (1000+ posts)      Sun Feb-21-10 12:31 AM
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10. Great piece of equipment....lots of them turn out for our local tractor pulls...

I wish I kept our old IH Farmall Cub, my uncle sold it to a friend who redid it and then passed it on to a collector.
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Re: primitive parts with old tractor
« Reply #1 on: February 21, 2010, 08:55:49 AM »
An 8N (or 2N/9N/NAA) are okay to plow a small garden with or mow some weeds but were pretty useless as farm tractors even in their day.
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Re: primitive parts with old tractor
« Reply #2 on: February 21, 2010, 09:34:52 AM »
Quote from: Carl on February 21, 2010, 08:55:49 AM
An 8N (or 2N/9N/NAA) are okay to plow a small garden with or mow some weeds but were pretty useless as farm tractors even in their day.

They're pretty useless for any kind of crop farming beyond vegetable gardening, but a pretty good light utility tractor for small-scale livestock farming, which is typical around here.  It's a pity they weren't designed with about 10 more horsepower originally.
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Re: primitive parts with old tractor
« Reply #3 on: February 21, 2010, 09:48:53 AM »
Quote from: DumbAss Tanker on February 21, 2010, 09:34:52 AM
They're pretty useless for any kind of crop farming beyond vegetable gardening, but a pretty good light utility tractor for small-scale livestock farming, which is typical around here.  It's a pity they weren't designed with about 10 more horsepower originally.

They were 23 HP I think....and I wore one out when I was a kid.

Brakes were a problem and they didn't have replaceable cam bushings. Therefore it's hard to get up any oil pressure in them even after a complete rebuild.

Back in the late 60's I used to braze up the rear axles where they wore out and turn them back to standard so you could put in new bearings and seals...stop the rearend oil from leaking out onto the brakes.
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Re: primitive parts with old tractor
« Reply #4 on: February 21, 2010, 03:35:44 PM »
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I wish I kept our old IH Farmall Cub, my uncle sold it to a friend who redid it and then passed it on to a collector.

So, was said tractor yours or your uncle's? Or did uncle basically steal it? Or, more likely, dummy is trying to be 'cool' and 'in' on a tractor thread?
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Re: primitive parts with old tractor
« Reply #5 on: February 21, 2010, 03:39:56 PM »
Uses for an old tractor...

[youtube=425,350]jbN-jO11vKg[/youtube]
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Re: primitive parts with old tractor
« Reply #6 on: February 21, 2010, 04:13:34 PM »
Quote from: Chris on February 21, 2010, 03:39:56 PM
Uses for an old tractor...

[youtube=425,350]jbN-jO11vKg[/youtube]

You know, sir, I was just reading yesterday--yes, it was just yesterday, this is no bouncy--about a group here in Nebraska who "square dance" using FarmAll tractors.

Apparently it's a big hit at county fairs.

I've never heard of this phenomenon.
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« Reply #7 on: February 21, 2010, 04:17:58 PM »
Okay, I just checked.

They're actually from Iowa (apparently there's a Nemaha, Iowa, too, but Nemaha, Nebraska is better known), but most of their performances are in Nebraska.

They even have a web-site.

www.farmallpromenade.com
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Re: primitive parts with old tractor
« Reply #8 on: February 21, 2010, 04:30:47 PM »
Quote from: franksolich on February 21, 2010, 04:13:34 PM
You know, sir, I was just reading yesterday--yes, it was just yesterday, this is no bouncy--about a group here in Nebraska who "square dance" using FarmAll tractors.

Apparently it's a big hit at county fairs.

I've never heard of this phenomenon.

I've never heard of such a thing.  That video is Swedish... that's an old Volvo 'traktor'.  Didn't FarmAll get bought by International at some point?  I seem to remember them producing some trucks.
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Re: primitive parts with old tractor
« Reply #9 on: February 21, 2010, 04:35:17 PM »
Quote from: Chris on February 21, 2010, 04:30:47 PM
I've never heard of such a thing.  That video is Swedish... that's an old Volvo 'traktor'.

Are you looking at the web-site I mentioned above?

Or some other web-site?
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Re: primitive parts with old tractor
« Reply #10 on: February 21, 2010, 04:41:08 PM »
Quote from: franksolich on February 21, 2010, 04:35:17 PM
Are you looking at the web-site I mentioned above?

Or some other web-site?

Sorry, I was watching the video I posted.
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Re: primitive parts with old tractor
« Reply #11 on: February 21, 2010, 04:44:16 PM »
Ah, okay... Farmall was a model from International Harvester, which later got into the pickup truck business.

http://jalopnik.com/346831/1948-international-harvester-kb+2-pickup-truck
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Re: primitive parts with old tractor
« Reply #12 on: February 21, 2010, 08:27:05 PM »
Quote from: Chris on February 21, 2010, 04:44:16 PM
Ah, okay... Farmall was a model from International Harvester, which later got into the pickup truck business.

http://jalopnik.com/346831/1948-international-harvester-kb+2-pickup-truck

Actually International built trucks from pickups all the way to heavy duty over-the-road tractors......

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Re: primitive parts with old tractor
« Reply #13 on: February 21, 2010, 10:10:19 PM »
Quote from: TVDOC on February 21, 2010, 08:27:05 PM
Actually International built trucks from pickups all the way to heavy duty over-the-road tractors......

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They still do. The mobile mixers, mobile manure spreaders and the like that the company I was working for recently manufactures, are all built on International truck chassis.
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Re: primitive parts with old tractor
« Reply #14 on: February 22, 2010, 04:39:53 AM »
Fwiw the old International Harvester company ceased to exist in 1985 or 86.
The ag division was purchased by J I Case and now operates as CNH global.
I work for a CNH dealer that represents the Case brand and all the old International tractors and equipment.
New Holland which includes the old Ford ag line is the other side of that company.

The industrial division (TD series crawlers,Hough payloaders..) was absorbed into Dresser Industries which later became part of Komatsu.
I am not sure if they have been bought since then again.

Cub Cadet tried to operate as an independent company for a while but is now owned and being destroyed by MTD.

Trucks went on to be Navistar and perhaps have re assumed the International label,I am not up on that.
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Re: primitive parts with old tractor
« Reply #15 on: February 22, 2010, 01:24:48 PM »
Quote from: DefiantSix on February 21, 2010, 10:10:19 PM
They still do. The mobile mixers, mobile manure spreaders and the like that the company I was working for recently manufactures, are all built on International truck chassis.

I don't know their present position, or whether they even still do exist, but they used to be by far the largest player in the school bus chassis market segment (known in the trade as the "FFC" flat-faced cowl, or chassis-cab).  Basically a medium-duty truck chassis with the "cowl" from the front bumper to (but not including) the windshield.  These were built and shipped to a number of different body companies that completed the vehicle.....Blue Bird Coach being one of several......IHC had over 50% of this market at one time.....

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Re: primitive parts with old tractor
« Reply #16 on: February 22, 2010, 04:46:53 PM »
Not to get off topic, but have you ever heard of SRC (Springfield Remanufacturing Corp)? 
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Re: primitive parts with old tractor
« Reply #17 on: February 23, 2010, 05:51:36 AM »
Quote from: BattleHymn on February 22, 2010, 04:46:53 PM
Not to get off topic, but have you ever heard of SRC (Springfield Remanufacturing Corp)? 
Yes,they are who CNH contracts to for rebuilding components as starters/alternators on up to engines.
When I was at NAPA the starters and alternators were from Rayloc.
Very poor quality and reman engines changed almost yearly for vendor.
Scary.

SRC remanufactured in the 10 years I have been acquainted with them is very good quality.
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« Reply #18 on: February 24, 2010, 11:54:08 PM »
I am glad to hear you are satisfied with our product, as I work for SRC.  Small world!    :cheersmate:
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Re: primitive parts with old tractor
« Reply #19 on: February 25, 2010, 12:27:42 AM »
Quote from: franksolich on February 21, 2010, 04:17:58 PM
Okay, I just checked.

They're actually from Iowa (apparently there's a Nemaha, Iowa, too, but Nemaha, Nebraska is better known), but most of their performances are in Nebraska.

They even have a web-site.

www.farmallpromenade.com

Or, you could do this:

[youtube=425,350]c5GnBvpFnzA[/youtube]
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Re: primitive parts with old tractor
« Reply #20 on: February 25, 2010, 01:24:36 AM »
Quote from: franksolich on February 21, 2010, 04:17:58 PM
Okay, I just checked.

They're actually from Iowa (apparently there's a Nemaha, Iowa, too, but Nemaha, Nebraska is better known), but most of their performances are in Nebraska.

They even have a web-site.

www.farmallpromenade.com
Well, of course. Whenever you hear someone mention Nemaha, you just assume they mean the town in Nebraska. Iowa? Please!

And Red Green is a genius.
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Re: primitive parts with old tractor
« Reply #21 on: February 25, 2010, 07:40:33 AM »
Quote from: BattleHymn on February 24, 2010, 11:54:08 PM
I am glad to hear you are satisfied with our product, as I work for SRC.  Small world!    :cheersmate:

How is business?
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Re: primitive parts with old tractor
« Reply #22 on: February 25, 2010, 11:26:42 PM »
Only time will tell with this Obama economy.  We had some layoffs through last year, and cut our shifts down to just one, from two.  Right now, we are relatively stable; utilizing temporary employment agencies for any unforeseen non-skilled labor needs. 

Our joint venture with FIAT has opened up new remanufacturing opportunities for us, such as NEF engines, hydraulic components, and a few other things.  I pray that we can hold out until things begin to turn around, without losing anymore good people. 
   
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Re: primitive parts with old tractor
« Reply #23 on: February 25, 2010, 11:47:27 PM »
Quote from: BattleHymn on February 25, 2010, 11:26:42 PM
Only time will tell with this Obama economy.  We had some layoffs through last year, and cut our shifts down to just one, from two.  Right now, we are relatively stable; utilizing temporary employment agencies for any unforeseen non-skilled labor needs. 

Our joint venture with FIAT has opened up new remanufacturing opportunities for us, such as NEF engines, hydraulic components, and a few other things.  I pray that we can hold out until things begin to turn around, without losing anymore good people. 
   

Good luck.
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