sparkling husband primitive gets unrec'd, has a fit

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Oh my.

The sparkling husband primitive:

Stinky The Clown  (1000+ posts)        Sun Jul-26-09 03:28 PM
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So I heard on local noozeradio today this story about a buildup of mercs in Afghanistan .....

.... In fact, we were out for a few hours going here and there and every time the damned car radio was on, this same story was going on.

The DoD and DoS are talking about building up mercenary forces in Afghanistan to about the 100,000 person level. They'll do the same sorts of things the Blackwater scum did in Iraq - convoy escorts, building security, guarding VIPs, that sort of shit. The same sort of shit that got us in DEEP SHIT in Iraq.

I'll bet that Blackwater won't be getting any contracts, but so what? They people who sign up to be mercs are the people who sign up to be mercs. Most are just looking for adventure and a way to make big money fast. A few are sociopaths. But whatever. 100,000 of them.

The story was short on specifics. In listening to it as many times as I did, it was clear: The story was a flag being run up the pole to test wind direction. Not that the buildup wouldn't happen, but rather, how to spin it.

I then checked my old watch. Had it been running backward about 7 or 8 years ........... ?

One wonders if the sparkling husband primitive's aware that the United Nations--gasp! the United Nations!--is considering hiring mercenaries to be United Nations "peace"keeping troops, because member nations are no longer enthusiastic about contributing their troops to the cause.

Anyway.

grantcart  (1000+ posts)        Sun Jul-26-09 03:36 PM
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1. there is a report that the Pentagon is considering a contract in December that would hire private contractors for base security and convoy escorts.

According to published reports there is no indication of 100,000 level.

The reports come from a WAPO report of a July 10th notice filed by the Pentagon.

No sources are indicating that the issue has been finalized or that there is consideration in the numbers that you heard on the radio.

Stinky The Clown  (1000+ posts)        Sun Jul-26-09 03:42 PM
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2. The radio story included a (prerecorded) interview with some DC "security expert" .......

...... who threw out the 100,000 number along with his reasons whey he felt that was the neighborhood in which they would be contracted.

The story on their website, as you point out, mentions no numbers at all.

dgibby  (1000+ posts)        Sun Jul-26-09 03:48 PM
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4. No doubt they'll hire that "new" company called Xe.

Stinky The Clown  (1000+ posts)        Sun Jul-26-09 03:51 PM
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5. To whomever did the unrec ....... how about you man up and say why?

You anonymous, chickenshit, jerkoff, COWARD

leftstreet  (1000+ posts)      Sun Jul-26-09 03:57 PM
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6. LOL I'm noticing the oddest things getting UnRec'd

But maybe some see it as a way of voting their disapproval of the subject, not the post?

I don't know.

tomreedtoon  (1000+ posts)      Sun Jul-26-09 04:02 PM
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7. Not me, but I didn't rec this either. And this is why:

You are assuming negative reasons for people becoming merc's. And yet, the people doing the work for "free" - those people recruited into the American Military - are considered dupes, innocents, and people exploited by their country.

Stinky, has it occurred to you that some people who sign up as merc's are more honest about life and reality than people who sign up with the military? That they realize the same values as the corporations and the medical establishment - that greed is good? You might dislike those values, but given the way this country has been run since Reagan, it's pretty predictable.

If I was told that a merc would make more money than a soldier (you know that has been talked about A LOT in the media) and I was jobless here in American, why would I choose anything but the merc job? That doesn't make me a psychopathic killer or a racist, just someone who knows basic math.

And no, although I was kicked to the curb by my employer, I'm not young enough, tough enough or vicious enough to become a mercenary.

MineralMan  (1000+ posts)      Sun Jul-26-09 04:08 PM
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9. I've known a couple of mercenaries, and I wouldn't allow them anywhere near a hot zone. Both were career hotheads with hair-trigger tempers. Last I heard of them, they were working for Blackwater in Iraq.

If we are going to have a military presence in a foreign country, it should only be military. No mercenaries. Ever. That's why the UCMJ is a tougher document than most other sets of laws.

If we need mercenaries to perform any part of a military mission, then we need either to get the hell out of that place or increase the number of personnel in the area. If we can pay contract mercenaries way more money than we can our own troops, then we need to increase the pay to our troops to a level capable of attracting adequate numbers of qualified people.

Mercs suck!

Stinky The Clown  (1000+ posts)        Sun Jul-26-09 04:30 PM
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11. I have no problem debating an issue. I have no quarrel with disagreement.

All I'm asking is to have the decency to man up when you take an actual action ...... like pressing the unrec button.

You chose to simply state your disagreement. And that's fine.

My quarrel is with the anonymous unrec cowards, not you.

As to what I said about mercs ..... "They people who sign up to be mercs are the people who sign up to be mercs. Most are just looking for adventure and a way to make big money fast. A few are sociopaths.

That statement is pretty much sanguine about them and hardly broadly critical.

grantcart  (1000+ posts)        Sun Jul-26-09 04:48 PM
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14. They may have been unreccing because they don't like the idea of President Obama using private contractors in Afghanistan.

Stinky The Clown  (1000+ posts)        Sun Jul-26-09 05:27 PM
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15. Or, alternatively, they don't like the mention that he is

The Rita Hayworth primitive:

Tangerine LaBamba  (1000+ posts)      Sun Jul-26-09 04:08 PM
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8. My watch is talking to your watch - the Discovery Channel is running an eight-hour series called "Cronkite Remembers," and it's all Cronkite talking about his career, complete with all the film clips, recordings, commentary. It's amazing.

I just watched Cronkite on Vietnam, including his time spent with LBJ before and after his presidency, and the comment after Cronkite saw the destruction of Hue made by a general who said something about "victory is at hand, we only need another hundred, hundred-and-fifty thousand troops."

Afghanistan flashed before me.

My watch is running more than forty years backward.

We're doomed.

Stinky The Clown  (1000+ posts)        Sun Jul-26-09 04:33 PM
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12. Heh ..... I'm watching the same thing and updating my iTunes ........

..... a lazy Sunday on the deck ....... ruminating and doing mindless crap ...... and then there's Walter on my teevee.

Man, I miss teevee noozers of his ilk.

Tangerine LaBamba  (1000+ posts)      Sun Jul-26-09 04:37 PM
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13. I bowed out of brunch, hurried up a shower, threw some laundry around, and am eating up this series.

I could cry, watching this..............................

readmoreoften  (1000+ posts)        Sun Jul-26-09 04:21 PM
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10. The contractors are already there. They're the ones "interrogating" Bagram prisoners.

You know, more Dilawars to win hearts and minds. I assume their numbers are less than 100,000 but I don't get why this is so shocking.

[SSG Snuggle Bunny]

MineralMan  (1000+ posts)      Sun Jul-26-09 04:08 PM
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...

If we are going to have a military presence in a foreign country, it should only be military. No mercenaries. Ever. That's why the UCMJ is a tougher document than most other sets of laws.

If we need mercenaries to perform any part of a military mission, then we need either to get the hell out of that place or increase the number of personnel in the area. If we can pay contract mercenaries way more money than we can our own troops, then we need to increase the pay to our troops to a level capable of attracting adequate numbers of qualified people.

Letters of Marque and Reprisal

Google it.

[thundley4]

Stinky The Clown  (1000+ posts)        Sun Jul-26-09 03:51 PM
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5. To whomever did the unrec ....... how about you man up and say why?

You anonymous, chickenshit, jerkoff, COWARD

Poor Stinkfinger.  Doesn't understand that being critical of Dear Leader is cause enough for multiple "unrecs".

[GOBUCKS]

In fact, we were out for a few hours going here and there

a lazy Sunday on the deck .......

I wonder if DUmmy husb2Sparkly is making a point to tell us that he's been
let out of the basement crapper. Of course, this is one of the bad sites, so
surely he's not aware that he's is best known for that banishment.