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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: Texacon on March 17, 2020, 12:46:38 PM

Title: 2009 H1N1 Swine Flu Pandemic/Obama vs Trump
Post by: Texacon on March 17, 2020, 12:46:38 PM
So we have roughly 4,226 confirmed cases of COVID-19 reported right now with 75 deaths since January 21st of this year.

President Trump closed off travel from China almost immediately and has already declared a national emergency.  All of this in less than 2 months.  The reason I'm posting this is because I'm tired of reading the DUmmies whining about how poorly Trump is handling this.  Keeping this information in mind, let's look at 2009 when Obama was president;

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2009_flu_pandemic_in_the_United_States

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The 2009 flu pandemic in the United States was a novel strain of the Influenza A/H1N1 virus, commonly referred to as "swine flu", that began in the spring of 2009. The virus had spread to the US from an outbreak in Mexico.[116]

As of mid-March 2010, the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) estimated that about 59 million Americans contracted the H1N1 virus, 265,000 were hospitalized as a result (0.4% of the estimated total number of people who contracted it), and 12,000 died (0.02%).[117][118]

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The earliest reported cases in the US began appearing in late March 2009, in California,[119][120] then spread to infect people in Texas, New York, and assorted other states by mid-April.

On April 22, the CDC first activated its Emergency Operations Center (EOC). On April 25, the World Health Organization (WHO) declared a public health emergency of international concern. On April 26, a public health emergency was declared in the United States, renewed twice in July and then October before being upgraded to a national emergency.[121]


So it took Obama roughly 5 months to get to where Trump is right now on declaring a national emergency ...


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The disease then spread across the country's population and by the end of May had infected citizens in all 50 states. The pattern continued through June of the same year. The total number of confirmed cases varied from 27,717 (Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) confirmed and probable cases) and 25,453 (total of all state confirmed cases) as of June 26, 2009.[122]

Towards the middle of June 2009, the number of US cases surpassed those of Mexico, which had been the previous leader in diagnosed cases of the disease. Toward the end of June 2009, the number of deaths related to the virus in the US surpassed those of all other countries as well.


Here it says that in 3 months we had 27,000 confirmed cases.  In 3 MONTHS.  We have 4,200 right now after 3 months with Trump in office because of some of the things his administration has been doing.

Note something here DUmmies; by June we had surpassed Mexico's cases WHERE WE GOT IT FROM, and our deaths surpassed ALL OTHER COUNTRIES!  Please show me your posts from 2009 decrying the job Obama was doing and WHY the H1N1 should have been blamed on him.  All of that in 3 months.


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On June 25, the CDC released information revealing that there were more than likely over one million (1,000,000) cases of the disease in the US, most of which had not been reported or diagnosed.


Wonder why that was ...


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Deaths relating to this new strain of influenza began appearing in the US in late April, and by early June, 15 states had reported fatalities related to or directly occurring from the virus. These deaths totaled at 4,000 as of November 15, 2009.


In 6 months there were 4,000 deaths all while Obama did ... what, exactly?  So if there aren't 4,000 deaths in the US in another 3 months, you can thank Trump.


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On April 26, 2009, the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services declared Swine Flu a public health emergency.[127] On October 24, 2009, President Barack Obama declared Swine Flu a national emergency in the United States.


He was warned in April ... he didn't declare a national emergency until October.  What's up with that?  Was he golfing?


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On January 15, 2010, the CDC released new estimate figures for swine flu, saying it has sickened about 55 million Americans and killed about 11,160 from April through mid-December.[130] On February 12, 2010, the CDC released updated estimate figures for swine flu, reporting that, in total, 57 million Americans had been sickened, 257,000 had been hospitalised and 11,690 people had died (including 1,180 children) due to swine flu from April through to mid-January.


Again, you'll note that above there were 4,000 deaths by November then you see the total to December which is over 11,000.  An additional 7,000 people died in about a month.  Also note, almost 1,200 children died.  Where was your Obama?

I hope some DUmmie comes over to explain to me why Obama's response was better than what Trump is doing.  Just one of them.  Either that or I want them to show me the links to the threads where they were trashing Obama like they're trashing Trump!

Put up or shut up, DUmmies!  LOL  Y'all claim to love facts, here's a whole string of them for you.

KC
Title: Re: 2009 H1N1 Swine Flu Pandemic/Obama vs Trump
Post by: Mary Ann on March 17, 2020, 01:35:06 PM
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100213062444
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Proud Liberal Dem (19,356 posts)


2009 H1N1/Swine Flu- Refresh My Memory

 
I remember back in Spring 2009 that the H1N1 (Swine) Flu was going around but TBH I can't remember how all that ended up. I remember there being a pretty big buzz about it for a hot minute, the Obama Administration mobilized and Republicans in the Senate finally allowed Kathleen Sebelius, whose nomination was being blocked by then-Senator Brownback, to be confirmed as HHS Secretary, and then it just kind of stopped being talked about to the best of my recollection. To this day, I only know of one friend who ever acknowledged having had that. Is Covid-19 considered to be worse overall than H1N1? Was that managed differently here in the US than this has been (aside from having a competent WH)? I just read in Wikipedia that it was classified as a pandemic.
This was posted on March 9. NO REPLIES!!! Wonder why . . .
Title: Re: 2009 H1N1 Swine Flu Pandemic/Obama vs Trump
Post by: SVPete on March 17, 2020, 01:44:59 PM
Well, here's a timeline with some significant events/milestones:

China informed WHO of the outbreak in Wuhan of unknown cause: December 31, 2019, https://www.who.int/csr/don/05-january-2020-pneumonia-of-unkown-cause-china/en/

Covid-19 identified to WHO: January 11 and 12, 2020, https://www.who.int/csr/don/12-january-2020-novel-coronavirus-china/en/

The US started screening arriving passengers from China: January 17, 2020, JFK, SFO, LAX https://www.businessinsider.com/new-disease-virus-china-us-airports-screening-cdc-2020-1 ; O'Hare and Hartsfield-Jackson January 22, 2020, https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2020/01/21/us-screenings-coronavirus-expanded-airports-atlanta-chicago/

Pharmaceuticals company working with US government to develop vaccine: January 22, 2020, Moderna, https://www.cnbc.com/2020/01/22/moderna-is-working-on-a-vaccine-for-chinas-deadly-coronavirus.html

Wuhan and other cities in Hubei Province shut down travel: January 23, 2020, https://news.cgtn.com/news/2020-01-27/5-million-people-left-Wuhan-before-the-lockdown-where-did-they-go--NACCu9wItW/index.html

State Department raised the travel advisory for China to Level 4, do not travel: January 31, 2020, https://www.usatoday.com/story/travel/2020/01/31/coronavirus-china-flight-ban-delta-cuts-all-flights-white-house/4620989002/

Trump declared a public health emergency: January 31, 2020, https://abcnews.go.com/Health/delta-suspends-us-flights-china-amid-coronavirus/story?id=68666037

People entering the US from China forbidden: February 2, 2020, https://www.cnn.com/2020/02/02/us/coronavirus-us-travel-restrictions/index.html This effectively ended flights from and to China, for obvious reasons. The current date for flights to resume is March 30, 2020.

An NIH clinical trial of Remdesivir begun: February 25, 2020, at University of Nebraska Medical Center, https://www.nih.gov/news-events/news-releases/nih-clinical-trial-remdesivir-treat-covid-19-begins

Experimental vaccine submitted for testing: February 26, 2020, Moderna, https://www.cnn.com/2020/02/25/business/moderna-coronavirus-vaccine/index.html

Testing labs allowed to use tests whose FDA Emergency Use Authorization requests are still pending: February 29, 2020, https://www.fda.gov/news-events/press-announcements/coronavirus-covid-19-update-fda-issues-new-policy-help-expedite-availability-diagnostics

Army signed agreement with Gilead on experimental COVID-19 treatment: March 10, 2020, https://www.militarytimes.com/news/your-military/2020/03/10/army-signs-agreement-with-drug-giant-gilead-on-experimental-covid-19-treatment/

Eli Lilly announced partnership with research company to develop a treatment/vaccine as part of the DARP program: March 13, 2020, https://www.msn.com/en-us/finance/companies/eli-lilly-joins-race-to-develop-coronavirus-treatment/ar-BB116BNR

Testing begins of Moderna's experimental coronavirus vaccine: March 16, 2020, at Kaiser Permanente Washington Health Research Institute, https://www.kpwashingtonresearch.org/news-and-events/recent-news/news-2020/kaiser-permanente-launches-coronavirus-vaccine-study-seattle

Not on this timeline that I need to add is the date when US people living in Wuhan started being evacuated. Also not on the timeline (because it's not really a single date and is still in process) is that a patient at UC Davis Medical Center was apparently saved by use of that experimental drug being tested at University of Nebraska.

What's sad about DU-grade Progs that, not only are they ignorant of or have memory-holed all these Trump Administration actions, but the results, a treatment and a vaccine in testing, are bad news to DU-grade Progs. Because Orange Man BAD!!!
Title: Re: 2009 H1N1 Swine Flu Pandemic/Obama vs Trump
Post by: Texacon on March 17, 2020, 02:01:21 PM
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100213062444This was posted on March 9. NO REPLIES!!! Wonder why . . .


Yeah, DUmmie admits it looked it up on Wiki, but won't admit to what it read because ... Obama.

KC
Title: Re: 2009 H1N1 Swine Flu Pandemic/Obama vs Trump
Post by: Texacon on March 17, 2020, 02:04:30 PM
Well, here's a timeline with some significant events/milestones:

China informed WHO of the outbreak in Wuhan of unknown cause: December 31, 2019, https://www.who.int/csr/don/05-january-2020-pneumonia-of-unkown-cause-china/en/

Covid-19 identified to WHO: January 11 and 12, 2020, https://www.who.int/csr/don/12-january-2020-novel-coronavirus-china/en/

The US started screening arriving passengers from China: January 17, 2020, JFK, SFO, LAX https://www.businessinsider.com/new-disease-virus-china-us-airports-screening-cdc-2020-1 ; O'Hare and Hartsfield-Jackson January 22, 2020, https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2020/01/21/us-screenings-coronavirus-expanded-airports-atlanta-chicago/

Pharmaceuticals company working with US government to develop vaccine: January 22, 2020, Moderna, https://www.cnbc.com/2020/01/22/moderna-is-working-on-a-vaccine-for-chinas-deadly-coronavirus.html

Wuhan and other cities in Hubei Province shut down travel: January 23, 2020, https://news.cgtn.com/news/2020-01-27/5-million-people-left-Wuhan-before-the-lockdown-where-did-they-go--NACCu9wItW/index.html

State Department raised the travel advisory for China to Level 4, do not travel: January 31, 2020, https://www.usatoday.com/story/travel/2020/01/31/coronavirus-china-flight-ban-delta-cuts-all-flights-white-house/4620989002/

Trump declared a public health emergency: January 31, 2020, https://abcnews.go.com/Health/delta-suspends-us-flights-china-amid-coronavirus/story?id=68666037

People entering the US from China forbidden: February 2, 2020, https://www.cnn.com/2020/02/02/us/coronavirus-us-travel-restrictions/index.html This effectively ended flights from and to China, for obvious reasons. The current date for flights to resume is March 30, 2020.

An NIH clinical trial of Remdesivir begun: February 25, 2020, at University of Nebraska Medical Center, https://www.nih.gov/news-events/news-releases/nih-clinical-trial-remdesivir-treat-covid-19-begins

Experimental vaccine submitted for testing: February 26, 2020, Moderna, https://www.cnn.com/2020/02/25/business/moderna-coronavirus-vaccine/index.html

Testing labs allowed to use tests whose FDA Emergency Use Authorization requests are still pending: February 29, 2020, https://www.fda.gov/news-events/press-announcements/coronavirus-covid-19-update-fda-issues-new-policy-help-expedite-availability-diagnostics

Army signed agreement with Gilead on experimental COVID-19 treatment: March 10, 2020, https://www.militarytimes.com/news/your-military/2020/03/10/army-signs-agreement-with-drug-giant-gilead-on-experimental-covid-19-treatment/

Eli Lilly announced partnership with research company to develop a treatment/vaccine as part of the DARP program: March 13, 2020, https://www.msn.com/en-us/finance/companies/eli-lilly-joins-race-to-develop-coronavirus-treatment/ar-BB116BNR

Testing begins of Moderna's experimental coronavirus vaccine: March 16, 2020, at Kaiser Permanente Washington Health Research Institute, https://www.kpwashingtonresearch.org/news-and-events/recent-news/news-2020/kaiser-permanente-launches-coronavirus-vaccine-study-seattle

Not on this timeline that I need to add is the date when US people living in Wuhan started being evacuated. Also not on the timeline (because it's not really a single date and is still in process) is that a patient at UC Davis Medical Center was apparently saved by use of that experimental drug being tested at University of Nebraska.

What's sad about DU-grade Progs that, not only are they ignorant of or have memory-holed all these Trump Administration actions, but the results, a treatment and a vaccine in testing, are bad news to DU-grade Progs. Because Orange Man BAD!!!


Great list!  You forgot one.

Trump declares National Emergency  https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-declares-national-emergency-coronavirus

That was 3 days ago.  It didn't take him 5 or 6 months.

Not to mention the governors are praising what Trump is doing.  With the likes of Gavin Newsom and now Andrew Cuomo!!

Sounds like Trump has it going on and the DUmmies aren't liking it.

KC
Title: Re: 2009 H1N1 Swine Flu Pandemic/Obama vs Trump
Post by: Old n Grumpy on March 17, 2020, 02:06:28 PM
So, We have 87 corona deaths in the US, meanwhile Chicago has had 81 deaths from gang shootings this year. But no one says shit about that,and it is preventable. :thatsright: :rant: :rant: :rant:
Title: Re: 2009 H1N1 Swine Flu Pandemic/Obama vs Trump
Post by: zeitgeist on March 18, 2020, 11:34:01 AM
I posted an article similar on FB on February 29.  It was hit by the FB 'fact check censors' on March 4.   It is almost as though Politifact employs DU moderators who's motto is "Though shalt not speak ill of Saint Barrack of Obama".     

The real basis of their complaint was this link: https://obamawhitehouse.archives.gov/realitycheck/the-press-office/declaration-a-national-emergency-with-respect-2009-h1n1-influenza-pandemic-0

In essence the link above says the Secretary of HHS declared an emergency in April of 2009.  It is really a splitting of hairs defense. 


Title: Re: 2009 H1N1 Swine Flu Pandemic/Obama vs Trump
Post by: jukin on March 18, 2020, 11:34:12 AM
So, We have 87 corona deaths in the US, meanwhile Chicago has had 81 deaths from gang shootings this year. But no one says shit about that,and it is preventable. :thatsright: :rant: :rant: :rant:


Don't forget the Obama leftist big gov of the CDC. Instead of protecting/preventing America from DISEASES they were busy doing things about gun control, the fake global warming, and other leftist and useless things and not their main job.

All of big government should be burned down and a small part of it reconstituted to perform the main task for which they were formed.
Title: Re: 2009 H1N1 Swine Flu Pandemic/Obama vs Trump
Post by: Old n Grumpy on March 18, 2020, 03:24:25 PM

Don't forget the Obama leftist big gov of the CDC. Instead of protecting/preventing America from DISEASES they were busy doing things about gun control, the fake global warming, and other leftist and useless things and not their main job.

All of big government should be burned down and a small part of it reconstituted to perform the main task for which they were formed.

I think we need to burn down half of it and arrest and prosecute the rest.
Title: Re: 2009 H1N1 Swine Flu Pandemic/Obama vs Trump
Post by: Wineslob on March 18, 2020, 03:45:49 PM
Trump's plan to insure re-election is going exactly as planned...... :hyper:




 :-)
Title: Re: 2009 H1N1 Swine Flu Pandemic/Obama vs Trump
Post by: Texacon on March 18, 2020, 09:22:11 PM
The main takeaway on the H1N1 for me is; this was in 2009. They owned both houses of Congress and the White House. They could do anything they wanted, and that was the result.

I don’t remember a single conservative calling it the Obama virus. Not one.

KC
Title: Re: 2009 H1N1 Swine Flu Pandemic/Obama vs Trump
Post by: SVPete on March 19, 2020, 09:14:11 AM
The death toll is continuing to climb, well over 100 now. With testing becoming widely available, the number of people will increase quickly in the coming week or two, many of them who would have been discovered earlier, but for the CDC's contaminated batch of test kits and the FDA reg requiring that only FDA-approved tests be used (along those lines, Biden's claim that the US declined test kits offered by WHO is false - none were declined because none were offered ... Biden making up stories to impress the credulous, as usual).
Title: Re: 2009 H1N1 Swine Flu Pandemic/Obama vs Trump
Post by: jukin on March 19, 2020, 01:13:32 PM
I think we need to burn down half of it and arrest and prosecute the rest.

When I say burn it all down, I mean with them in the buildings.