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What will you do if Trump refused to leave office or decides to stop election voting activities

Democrats and Never-Trumpers gaming out ‘doomsday scenarios’ if president refuses to leave office: report


According to a report in the New York Times, Democratic strategists and Never-Trumper conservatives fear Donald Trump will refuse to leave office should he lose in November and are making plans and figuring out their legal options should such an unprecedented state of affairs come to pass.

The report, by the Times’ Reid Epstein, begins with one such possible scenario.

“In October, President Trump declares a state of emergency in major cities in battleground states, like Milwaukee and Detroit, banning polling places from opening. A week before the election, Attorney General William P. Barr announces a criminal investigation into the Democratic presidential nominee, Joseph R. Biden Jr,” he suggested. “After Mr. Biden wins a narrow Electoral College victory, Mr. Trump refuses to accept the results, won’t leave the White House and declines to allow the Biden transition team customary access to agencies before the Jan. 20 inauguration.”

Admitting that his suggestion sounds “far-fetched,” he added, “Not to a group of worst-case scenario planners — mostly Democrats, but some anti-Trump Republicans as well — who have been gaming out various doomsday options for the 2020 presidential election:


https://www.rawstory.com/2020/05/democrats-and-never-trumpers-gaming-out-doomsday-scenarios-if-president-refuses-to-leave-office-report/

not this shit again...  :lmao:

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Star Member pwb (4,812 posts)

1. That is a stretch.

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Star Member The Velveteen Ocelot (83,387 posts)

2. If that infected ass-boil refuses to leave the WH on January 20, at that point he will have become a private citizen who's trespassing on government property, and the federal marshals can drag his fat orange butt right out of there.

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demtenjeep (27,303 posts)

3. Carville says there are a ton of soldiers on the TR that will gladly do an extraction

procedure.

Says the military hates him.

He would know

Ragin' Ca-gen

soldiers on an aircraft carrier?

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no_hypocrisy (35,478 posts)

4. I think it's sound strategy to start preparing several possibilities/probabilities

instead of letting it happen.

I'm certain Biden has attorneys already drafting legal memoranda on this very matter.

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Star Member dmr (27,178 posts)

6. "Peaceful transition of power."

This is what we hear each and every Inaugural Day.

The beauty of our Constitution.

If Trump attempts to betray this, he'll be escorted out. If he squawks, then frog-marched in handcuffs ... kicking and screaming, I don't care. He will be a trespasser with no more rights than the average John Doe.

The White House is not his. It is the People's House - yours and mine.

If they try to pull a stunt in October, it won't work.

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SoonerPride (6,198 posts)

8. I am headed to Washington DC to join a million people to drag him out

If we have to storm the white house then so be it.

But he will be evicted either peaceably or forcefully.

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Star Member BigmanPigman (35,086 posts)

10. The1st Women's March was the day after his Inauguration

and millions stormed the streets. I imagine that event would be eclipsed by the crowds going to DC to remove him.

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Star Member I_UndergroundPanther (1,638 posts)

11. I don't know what I personally could do.

Myself.
However if anyone in Harford county Maryland could help with transportation to and from wherever it is. I'd be glad to go to a protest,make a sign and scream about it with whatever others are going out there to scream about it too.

I have risk factors making me vulnerable to covid, but I don't care because I can't live in a neoliberal dictatorship without my consience and moral/ ethical compass on fire and every fiber of my being going mad wanting it to be destroyed.
Trump would be hated with the heat of 100 trillion blue star sun's.

I'd be willing to hookup via zoom or in person with others to brainstorm about what to do about it.

I don't want to be useless
When it comes to fighting for our country,should trump try to be a dicktator
Emphasis on dick..

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Star Member TreasonousBastard (34,546 posts)

14. I'll catch the story in the Times later, but my first problem is believing there are...

enough people in this country who are willing to tear up the Constitution for Donald.

The states come up with the electors. Nothing so far says how the states come up with electors, and for years the legislatures did it. They can do it again.

And at this point nothing says they have to vote for whom they pledged, although that's been before the Supremes already, and will be again. Pressure on a few electors could change things. And since the 22(?) amendment, the election is certified by the incoming Congress not the outgoing one. Think about that for a minute.

Without another civil war, it seems to me that we have enough support within all three branches of government to frog march the present lump out of the White House if he doesn't get certified by Inauguration Day.

Ain't no emergency bad enough to keep this one in office.

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15. It sounds a bit too wild for rational conjecture but, since we are hypothesizing, I would suggest that such an action would clearly be an illegal overthrow of the Government, and a direct attack on the Constitution. I would feel that, in order to fulfill the oath that I took as a young man, and that I never rescinded, I would feel obligated to grab my pitchfork and head to the streets. I am too old to be a good soldier, but I am too young to become a good slave.

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17. Stable power reproduces itself in various ways -- but one of those ways is that masses of people

consent to it hundreds or thousands of times daily in the course of their ordinary lives

Such an act would qualify as treason

Who's would consent to this? Any judge or politician who goes along with it would be in violation of their oath of office

Here's a question: What political party, after losing the election, used the powers if the intel services to spy on the incoming President and forge up a plot to overturn the election?

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Here's a question: What political party, after losing the election, used the powers if the intel services to spy on the incoming President and forge up a plot to overturn the election?


I know!  It was the democrat party.
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 ::) Are they back to this stupidity again? ::)  :banghead: Second or third time this year, I think. :banghead:
If, as anti-Covid-vaxxers claim, https://www.poynter.org/fact-checking/2021/robert-f-kennedy-jr-said-the-covid-19-vaccine-is-the-deadliest-vaccine-ever-made-thats-not-true/ , https://gospelnewsnetwork.org/2021/11/23/covid-shots-are-the-deadliest-vaccines-in-medical-history/ , The Vaccine is deadly, where in the US have Pfizer and Moderna hidden the millions of bodies of those who died of "vaccine injury"? Is reality a Big Pharma Shill?

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It was Cankles who got schlonged in a landslide and didn't concede until lunchtime the next day.  It was leftists that went on a rampage, burning cars and smashing windows.  It was Cankles and other leftists that pursued phony desperation recounts.  It was Cankles' leftist Hollywood pals that made videos urging the Electoral College to go the faithless elector route.  It was Barry who used the powers of the intel services to spy on the incoming President in a plot to overturn the election.

Democrat shenanigans, not Trump or republican shenanigans.
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Of course, there are some DUMmies exploiting this paranoia and openly calling for violent insurrection.
I love the subway kitty's post, both because she/ it is AGAIN being a parasite trying to live off of others (In this case, for free transportation), and because a bloated, hypochondriac tub of guts like her/ it will be absolutely useless in any kind of violent uprising.

It was Cankles who got schlonged in a landslide and didn't concede until lunchtime the next day.  It was leftists that went on a rampage, burning cars and smashing windows.  It was Cankles and other leftists that pursued phony desperation recounts.  It was Cankles' leftist Hollywood pals that made videos urging the Electoral College to go the faithless elector route.  It was Barry who used the powers of the intel services to spy on the incoming President in a plot to overturn the election.

Democrat shenanigans, not Trump or republican shenanigans.
Don't forget the DUmmies, in the time from 11/9/16 through Trump's inauguration, openly demanded that Obama stay in office past his term limit, throw out the election results, schedule a new election, and declare martial law to enforce it.
As Ann Coulter once put it, if you want to know what Democrats are up to, just look at what they are accusing Republicans are doing.

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I know!  It was the democrat party.

Heyyyy... you cheated!!!

You used your brain and that is unfair when dealing with DUmmies!
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Speaking of recycling narratives, did DU-folk bandy about this CT-wannabe back in 2008 wrt President Bush?
If, as anti-Covid-vaxxers claim, https://www.poynter.org/fact-checking/2021/robert-f-kennedy-jr-said-the-covid-19-vaccine-is-the-deadliest-vaccine-ever-made-thats-not-true/ , https://gospelnewsnetwork.org/2021/11/23/covid-shots-are-the-deadliest-vaccines-in-medical-history/ , The Vaccine is deadly, where in the US have Pfizer and Moderna hidden the millions of bodies of those who died of "vaccine injury"? Is reality a Big Pharma Shill?

Millions now living should have died. Anti-Covid-Vaxxer ghouls hardest hit.

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Speaking of recycling narratives, did DU-folk bandy about this CT-wannabe back in 2008 wrt President Bush?

Yes, they did.
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Donkey-commies and never Trumpers (but I repeat myself) will curl up and cry... while watching their wives get ****ed by real men.

Prove me wrong.
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Is it in the DU by-laws or something that at least one idiot has to pose this question everyday?

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11.

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Too late.
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